Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

[RealGunner]

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[RedOranje]

Arsenal rumors.

Polar bears live in the arctic at the northern tip of the globe while penguins live in the antarctic southern regions... they would never cross paths in the wild. /pedantic comment

[Sina]

- Just to refute what they say ... There is contact, but nothing has been agreed - said Mitrovic through Twitter.
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[Chumlum]

I don't know anything about Mitrovic, but he does seem pretty built for a young guy.

Otherwise ... Partizan's Lazar Markovic, as people have said, has been turning heads for a while. Most linked with Chelsea over the past year, but papers have linked him to Arsenal in the past.

If you don't know about Markovic, this IBWM profile might get you going :

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/the-100-for-2012/2012/11/26/lazar-markovic.html

Excerpts:

Lazar Marković is, to say the very least, a wanted man.

...

Marković is a versatile modern forward, sometimes played wide but most effective in our opinion as a second striker through the middle. The first thing that hits you when watching him is the pace, he has that two-second burst that can carry him away from even the quickest defenders in what feels like the blink of an eye. Married to the acceleration is the close control and willingness to take men on one, two, three or even four at a time. The rambunctiousness of youth is coupled with the talent to pull it off, a combination that is always likely to make you stand out from the crowd.

...

... it’s Arsenal who have been most forthright with their advances. Pitching in with the love-in from the beginning and taking the un-Arsenal-like route of stating their interest publically and apparently preparing a January move, Arsene Wenger himself has even been moved to openly declare himself a fan.

You could see Marković fitting in at the Emirates quite easily as a part of that ever-mobile front unit. He has as the speed of thought to just about keep up with his feet and an eye for a clinical pass, if not quite the talent yet to pull it off nine times out of ten. Arsenal would be a good fit, but the player had his heart set on Chelsea – would he move to London to play for another club? We’re not sure.

...

An interesting few months is coming for the future career of Lazar Marković and somebody is going to get a really, really good player. With all the hype you’d expect there to be no negatives but we’ve noticed his left foot or more accurately, just quite how prominently right-footed he is. This will need to be worked on and he needs to be a little cuter with his decision making at times, but he is 18 and will learn.

Another huge tick is his attitude which has seen everyone who has worked with him both at Partizan and with Serbia’s U17 and U21 international teams effuse about his desire to work, his focus on having a top-line career and his dislike of parties, alcohol and all the other things that can distract a young man. He seems almost too good to be true on paper but we know that never tells the whole story.

[REWB]

i dont want any of them, they both look average to me

[Raptorgunner]

Arsenal rumors.

Polar bears live in the arctic at the northern tip of the globe while penguins live in the antarctic southern regions... they would never cross paths in the wild. /pedantic comment

Cant argue with the facts, exactly just like Arsenal rumors.

[Wilson37]

I think that news is being over sensationalized by Twitterverse honestly. I use to let it bother me lol. These negative spins to interviews are usually started by those who are critical of wenger or Arsenal. Need I remind you what the same people who are moaning and bitching about KOS being too goo d for Arsenal (writers/Pundits/ opposition fans) were saying about Wengers decision to not strengthen in the defensive areas last summer?

If I am not mistaken, Laurent signed himself to a 5 year deal not too long ago yes? I dont think we have anything to worry about. I was more concerned with Walcott leaving during the summer. IMHO there is stronger belief within the team now than there was during the Cesc, Nasri, Robin Van *bleep*'s era. We have tied down our biggest assets to lengthy deals.


Btw an open question to all the goal legacy users. What do you make of the Rooney to Arsenal rumors? Any chance of us signing him?

No and I also do not think it would be a good idea. No because is wages (unless I am wrong about them I thought he was on about 250k a week) are almost twice what we pay our best and I just do not see anyone coming to Arsenal and getting that much money under the current regime. Also if they were to decide to break the bank like that on Gonney, it will end up creating decention with others on the team that actually would like to get World Class pay. Getting away from our current wage structure is something we need to do but if we move away from it that fast it will cause issues. Rooney on 250k a week and KOS on about 50k a week. Just don't see it working out.

breaking the wage structure is not easy.. will totally destroy our club if we fail to recoup it by winning trophies or getting improved deals..
and if we sign Rooney for 150+, what will Walcott think after we offered him 90k at the end of a year long fight.. more players will become unhappy and ask for more wages.. so it is not worth to break the wage system by such a huge margin.. maximum should be around 120-130k..

[Wilson37]

Guys chill down.. dont get carried by the media.. all this because of what could have been just a misinterpreted/translated French interview..
Ramsey and Walcot too talked about strengthening the squad over summer in general aspect last week.. and the title in media was "Ramsey pleads for signings..".. now another article title says "Surround me with champions or I'm off.. - Kosielny"
f*** media.. they keep twisting the statements according to their will.. the interview was in French, and i think what Kos meant was that there is no reason for him to leave the club currently.. and this is frankly an over reaction from deluded fans..

[VendettaRed07]

I think that news is being over sensationalized by Twitterverse honestly. I use to let it bother me lol. These negative spins to interviews are usually started by those who are critical of wenger or Arsenal. Need I remind you what the same people who are moaning and bitching about KOS being too goo d for Arsenal (writers/Pundits/ opposition fans) were saying about Wengers decision to not strengthen in the defensive areas last summer?

If I am not mistaken, Laurent signed himself to a 5 year deal not too long ago yes? I dont think we have anything to worry about. I was more concerned with Walcott leaving during the summer. IMHO there is stronger belief within the team now than there was during the Cesc, Nasri, Robin Van *bleep*'s era. We have tied down our biggest assets to lengthy deals.


Btw an open question to all the goal legacy users. What do you make of the Rooney to Arsenal rumors? Any chance of us signing him?

No and I also do not think it would be a good idea. No because is wages (unless I am wrong about them I thought he was on about 250k a week) are almost twice what we pay our best and I just do not see anyone coming to Arsenal and getting that much money under the current regime. Also if they were to decide to break the bank like that on Gonney, it will end up creating decention with others on the team that actually would like to get World Class pay. Getting away from our current wage structure is something we need to do but if we move away from it that fast it will cause issues. Rooney on 250k a week and KOS on about 50k a week. Just don't see it working out.

breaking the wage structure is not easy.. will totally destroy our club if we fail to recoup it by winning trophies or getting improved deals..
and if we sign Rooney for 150+, what will Walcott think after we offered him 90k at the end of a year long fight.. more players will become unhappy and ask for more wages.. so it is not worth to break the wage system by such a huge margin.. maximum should be around 120-130k..

He should think that its deserved because he isn't half the player Rooney is. And I love Walcott. But come on, Im sure Theo even knows this. Walcott had to play for his contract. At the beginning of the season, I can see why Arsenal would not want to meet his wage demands. But he ended up earning it by having pretty easily his best season. He struggled at time but he proved he was worth the money. If he wants Rooney like money, or anyone else does, then be as good as him then maybe we'll have a discussion. A player saying they want more because x player on the team gets more than them is not leverage to get more money. Another team offering more to that same player is. As long as we pay players at their market value or at least close enough to it then everything will be fine.

We shouldn't have a limit on the wage structure. What that does is limit what players will ever consider player here. As long as we're not giving 200k+ to 4 or 5+ players it won't matter. Each player should be looked at individually to what they are worth. Which Rooney clearly is. He is a legit star and the best english player by far and if he was willing to come here you'd have to be crazy not to happily offer him that money.

[Artilleristen]

why the f do they come to arsenal in the first place. effin hate it wen players think they are better than the club. every1 knws we are in a trophy drought so why do they sign with us and talk shti wen thy bcome "world class". this is totally unacceptable from Kos. thats being desperate. is this the reason wenger is pursuing Williams....so not going to visit any sports website in the following day...might break a screen

Why would a world class player stay at a club with the available resources to become big club, but are run like a side in the Championship?
Unfortunately it is time for Wenger to prove that we are a big club, who are willing to buy quality players, instead of shit like santos, park, and gervinho, or give another manager the reigns to bring us back to glory. To me this is similar to what RVP said last year, an if Kos leaves for similar reasons, than I will support the player over the club.

[SamuelJayC]

Toulouse president Olivier Sadran: "Étienne Capoue? If the offer is better than last summer (£10m), he can leave." http://bit.ly/14sBW80

[boyzis]

You must know, then, that in a "professional" world, it would have been impossible for Arsenal to sign Falcao and Neymar due to FA rules that forbid English teams to negotiate with third party owners.

Again being logical with me ? Did you even read what i said ?

Do you even think every english club is an angel ? we steal kids right from other people noses and you are fine with it just because wenger said so ? Welingtion silva was signed from fluminese 3.5 Million pound. fluminese president said "they got 1 Million" bcoz the rest went to his agent or the person who discovered him.

you are a wenger fan boy. I am not.

I think winning comes first and that needs top players. Likes of neymar and falco are type that create difference. they come from remote locations and i respect that. i will pay the money they deserve. i dont care if i pay 50 million to santos and they give 10 million to someone else.

Do you even come out of ur nutshell and think what city did to FFP rules?

In addition, it is not "practical" for a club, in its right mind, to spend the entirety of its budget on one player when it needs to strengthen a minimum of three positions.

Its practical for likes of fergie to spend 30 million pound on berbatov, 25 million pound rvp, 30 million pound on rooney, its not practical for wenger because he has been clinching top4.
Its the question of the player available. fergie recognized things have changed and he invested in the squad. wenger is not doing the same.

When RVP wanted to leave he questioned arsenal ambition and now other important players have started doing the same.

In modern era, players are motivated by three things arsenal offer them none

1. Money
2. Medals
3. Being around players of their class.

Moreover, Arsenal's budget has always been a combined transfer fee and wage budget, meaning that, in reality, we do not have £70mil to blow on transfer fees.

We are not blowing the budget. we are securing the teams future.

[boyzis]

The amount of negative moping is way too high for this long before next season. Given the way the last few summers have gone, a little skepticism and apprehension are healthy. Nobody wants to see the club sit back while the iron is hot. But some people here should stop raising their blood pressure unnecessarily about what Wenger has already "failed" to do and what ambition the club have shown they don't have. We don't know what they're actually attempting to do, so it's impossible to judge whether they've set their sights too low or whether they've set them high but fallen miserably short.

About 95% of what's been reported in the press - about which players are moving, aren't moving, have decided to move, about which clubs have made bids or accepted bids or are scouting players X, Y, and Z ... most of these reports are either outright garbage or they are hugely misleading from the truth. They're just there to get eyeballs and page clicks. "Arsenal set to miss out on..." and "Arsenal to break the b
Relax, dudes. At least until the last month or so. Transfer rumors can be lots of fun and sometimes also infuriating but there's no reason to take it quite so seriously this early in the off-season.

Huh ! Dude u trying to speak sense? I am more or less heard ppl like you million times. What you guys lack is practical knowledge. You must understand Mr logical no club would spend millions without any digging. As a matter of fact every top club identifies its target months before the window opens. If you seriously think waiting will do any good is shit mentality because the only good players left at the end r the ones who no one really considered good enough at the start.
Falcao gone
Neymar gone
Navas gone
Gitze gone
Wake up and come out from behind your comp and meet some professional working day night

Clearly I'm being trolled a little here, so , but I just wanted to clarify for other readers (esp. if English is not their first language) that I never advocated that Arsenal should wait on transfer plans. (Nor do I think the people at the club actually are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs.) My point about waiting was referring to fans getting really hot-headed and impatient when it's still just early June, because the blunt truth is that we don't get to see what goes on behind the scenes. (Unless we do. Is RealGunner actually Pat Rice? Is Raptor in fact the online identity of Andrei Arshavin? )

I have no idea what "professional working day night" is intended to mean though. I am older than the majority of people on this forum, I'm pretty certain, and probably don't need to be told something like this.

lol you are saying we should wait. look at the magnitude of deals that are going on at the moment. the quality in those deals. we have got to compete with the like of such clubs unless you want to settle for just a hard luck top4 finish?
I said professional because my uncle is agent for some top players and he told me somethings about wenger and his dealings.
i tell you right now. its not as it seems. wenger is the most cunning person ever. even fergie sometimes fall prey to him.

[Twoism]

I know rumours are fun and all but lets keep it calm guys, no need to get worked up over it. I could write an essay on how Arsenal will never go after Falcao, Neymar, Navas or Gotze and Jay just listed one of them, there are so many other factors to consider and we fans look at it from the most unprofessional angle, a kid wants a shiny toy.

That's being said, Kozz questioning is legit; it might not be Falcao, Neymar but at least, it gotta be someone good or borderline worldclass; Jovetic and Capoue is a good start.

[urbaNRoots]

I thought Capoue was going to PSG? Signing Capoue could fix two problems, he would be another option to Arteta and 4th choice CB.

[Jay29]

Again being logical with me ? Did you even read what i said ?

Pointing out flaws in logic is the whole point of debating, isn't it?

Do you even think every english club is an angel ? we steal kids right from other people noses and you are fine with it just because wenger said so ? Welingtion silva was signed from fluminese 3.5 Million pound. fluminese president said "they got 1 Million" bcoz the rest went to his agent or the person who discovered him.

you are a wenger fan boy. I am not.

Uh, why are you putting words into my mouth? Please point out where I said or implied that I'm fine with us "stealing kids" because Wenger said so and that I'm a Wenger "fanboy".

I think winning comes first and that needs top players. Likes of neymar and falco are type that create difference. they come from remote locations and i respect that. i will pay the money they deserve. i dont care if i pay 50 million to santos and they give 10 million to someone else.

Do you even come out of ur nutshell and think what city did to FFP rules?

It's all so easy, of course. I mean, English clubs were just lining up to get Neymar and Falcao, weren't they?

Its practical for likes of fergie to spend 30 million pound on berbatov, 25 million pound rvp, 30 million pound on rooney, its not practical for wenger because he has been clinching top4.

United's budget has been considerably bigger than ours for some time. It still is. What's practical for them is not practical for us.

[Mudcat]

lol you are saying we should wait. look at the magnitude of deals that are going on at the moment. the quality in those deals. we have got to compete with the like of such clubs unless you want to settle for just a hard luck top4 finish?
I said professional because my uncle is agent for some top players and he told me somethings about wenger and his dealings.
i tell you right now. its not as it seems. wenger is the most cunning person ever. even fergie sometimes fall prey to him.

It's early June. The vast majority of deals are concluded in July and August. If you're such an expert on transfer dealings, you should know that. Early deals involving top players such as Podolski last year or Navas this year are the exception rather than the rule. Just because Arsenal hasn't finalized a "big" signing on June 5 does not mean they're dillydallying. Negotiations take time (or hasn't your famous uncle told you that?). And as far as I know nobody has signed anyone Arsenal is targeting just yet. It's silly to panic. Let's wait until the transfer window is closed and then we can evaluate. Besides, if Wenger is as cunning as you say, what is there to worry about?

[urbaNRoots]

Take this one with a pinch of salt

According to 'Bild' Arsenal are interested in David Alaba. Apparently they have already contacted David Alaba's management and want to play him in his desired midfield position. Alaba used to be an Arsenal fan in his childhood.

http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/fussball/2013/06/05/transfer-news/neues-zu-gomez-lewandowski-und-alaba.html

[sportsczy]

That's not necessarily true. It depends of the position and the wealth of players in that specific position. Good strikers are extremely rare and very few are available for purchase. If Higuain, Lewandowski, Jovetic, Gomez, Rooney and Cavani are tied up quickly, like it seems they will be... Arsenal will be left with scraps and the scraps at the striker position are poor.

[Mudcat]

That's not necessarily true. It depends of the position and the wealth of players in that specific position. Good strikers are extremely rare and very few are available for purchase. If Higuain, Lewandowski, Jovetic, Gomez, Rooney and Cavani are tied up quickly, like it seems they will be... Arsenal will be left with scraps and the scraps at the striker position are poor.

All of the players you mention are still out there (and I've not seen Lewandowski, Gomez or Cavani linked to Arsenal recently anyway), so why should we panic? How do you know Arsenal won't sign one or more of these players? What makes you think Arsenal isn't busy working on making a deal? Some of them may not even be moved.

Besides, the fact that strikers of such quality are rare is exactly why it usually takes time. United bought Van Persie in August. They bought Chicarito in July. City bought Aguero and Tevez in July. They got Dzeko in January and their first big signing after winning the rich owner lottery was Robinho, who was transferred on the last day of the window (as was Berbatov to United some years ago). Chelsea bought Drogba in July and Torres in January. Very few top strikers are moved in June, especially in deals involving English clubs.

[MJ]

Higuain told The Metro:

‘There have already been offers and I hope that Madrid do the best for me and themselves.

‘Arsenal? They would suit me, I’m still young and I have goals.

‘There are many possibilities. I want to go to a league where I’ll be put to the test.’

[Raptorgunner]

Delusional ambition is a sickness that was created by The Satan, a Donkey face and Wenger. Ambitious owners pump money in to the team to take them a step higher our just sits back sells.

We keep profiting and getting one after another huge commercial deals and we still cant afford to compete with big teams.

I know its early and we should wait but knowing Wenger and Arsenal board we will not spend to improve the team and any player speaks up will be sold.

[Raptorgunner]

Higuain told The Metro:

‘There have already been offers and I hope that Madrid do the best for me and themselves.

‘Arsenal? They would suit me, I’m still young and I have goals.

‘There are many possibilities. I want to go to a league where I’ll be put to the test.’

Sign him up Wenger.

[sportsczy]

@mudcat. All those guys are going to be sold within the next 2-3 weeks imo because they set up the remainder of the mercato for those teams. They can't wait until late in the mercato and then scramble to replace.

@raptor. Capoue wants to go to PSG but PSG are focused on Digne and Rooney right now. Also need a new manager to see what he likes lol. Capoue is probably keeping his options open just in case. But PSG have a first right of refusal on him as part of the Rabiot loan deal to Toulouse in the winter.

[EL Patron]

Higuain told The Metro:

‘There have already been offers and I hope that Madrid do the best for me and themselves.

‘Arsenal? They would suit me, I’m still young and I have goals.

‘There are many possibilities. I want to go to a league where I’ll be put to the test.’

Sign him up Wenger.

No he is shit

[Raptorgunner]

Higuain told The Metro:

‘There have already been offers and I hope that Madrid do the best for me and themselves.

‘Arsenal? They would suit me, I’m still young and I have goals.

‘There are many possibilities. I want to go to a league where I’ll be put to the test.’

Sign him up Wenger.

No he is shit

We wont sign any better, you want Sanago as Giroud back up? Who can a poor club like us afford, after all we are only Forbes: 4th most valuable club in the world. Brand Finance: Arsenal are the 6th most valuable brand in the world.

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