Yohan Modric wrote:Yeh, I think they've always been one of the better Championship sides.

Can see them settling in well like Swansea.

AltoZ wrote:So what? There are Canadian teams in NHL, NBA and MLB.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:2 Welsh teams in England's top division

izzy wrote:

AltoZ wrote:So what? There are Canadian teams in NHL, NBA and MLB.

There are 11 posts in this thread and NOT ONE had a problem with them being Welsh, so what the hell are you talking about?

'Cardiff City weren't promoted last night. Cardiff City died last summer'

Scott Thomas, who started following Cardiff City during the 1975-76 season, explains why he does not regret walking away from the club last summer – even after promotion


In the summer of 2012 Cardiff City changed their colours from blue to red. The owner, Vincent Tan, thought the club would thrive on the field and in the Asian market if they played in red and wore a dragon on their shirt.

Some fans were pragmatic enough to accept the changes. They have gone on to enjoy the uptake in the team's form that culminated in Cardiff City's promotion to the Premier League on Tuesday night. Other supporters, such as Scott Thomas, thought the bargain was not worth it. After 30 years of following the club, Thomas walked away from Cardiff City last summer. Here he explains his decision.

"I don't watch Cardiff City games any more but, when I saw a picture of Craig Bellamy holding a red scarf emblazoned with dragons and the word 'Cardiff' rather than the club's proper name, it didn't hurt as much as I thought it would. It confirmed that I made the right decision. I was surprisingly sanguine about the promotion. Cardiff City didn't go up last night; Cardiff City died last summer.

"Seeing fans celebrate on the pitch during a news bulletin felt like watching the plug being pulled from a life-support machine that has been keeping an old relative alive. It was just another day at the office for club I no longer recognise. They are just another team now, not the one I supported for decades.

"I never dreamed that Cardiff City would make it to the top flight and I wouldn't be there to see it. But the club I supported disappeared when a Malaysian businessman with no previous links to the city and no interest in its football took over Cardiff City and made it literally unrecognisable. The club I followed had history and traditions that went back 100 years, but now its future is subject to the whims of a single man.

"I began supporting the club when my uncle and cousin took me to a match against Sheffield Wednesday in the 1975-76 season. I followed them to over 60 grounds in the fourth, third and second tiers with 25 friends I picked up over the years. I'm proud to say only a few of those guys renewed their season tickets for this season and some of them will not be renewing for next year.

"It was big decision to walk away. Every fan has their own tipping point, but I knew immediately that I couldn't support a franchise. I wouldn't support a business like Tesco or Sainsbury's, and that's what Cardiff City have become. The club is no longer a community asset; it's just a football team that happens to play in the city. Cardiff City are one step away from MK Dons.

"Many supporters stayed and many more will join now – people love a bandwagon – but a lot of the old-timers go less regularly and with less passion. More would have left, but a perfect storm of circumstances whipped fans into a demented reaction. They were desperate for success after so many near-misses and couldn't bear to see Swansea City do so well up the road.

"I hate to admit it – old habits die hard – but Swansea City are a model club in many ways. Fan ownership has to be the way forward, but the Football Association aren't going protect the historical identity of clubs. The FA are just a booking agent for Wembley Stadium these days, as shown by the announcement of a 5.15pm kick-off time for this year's Cup final.

"Even the national team are inferior to Premier League clubs now. Owners with money – or the promise of money – can do as they please. The FA didn't prevent Newcastle from rebranding their stadium and they didn't save Wimbledon, so they weren't going to save Cardiff City. We have listed buildings in this country, but football clubs are a free for all.

"I could never support another club, but I've enjoyed watching other teams and other sports. I went to Wales's game in Scotland at Hampden last month, then to the Six Nations at Murrayfield and then to see Rangers play a few days later. Going to the Olympics and Paralympics, as well as rugby and boxing has been refreshing. On balance, it's better to be away from the venal, soul-destroying situation at Cardiff City."

Scott Thomas was speaking to Paul Campbell

Lex wrote:What a whiny girl. Wimbledon FC is a club that's truly dead, with MK Dons masquerading as their doppelganger. Cardiff simply changed shirt colours

Doc wrote:, he needs to stop being ridiculous and go back to his boy hood club.

che wrote:

Lex wrote:What a whiny girl. Wimbledon FC is a club that's truly dead, with MK Dons masquerading as their doppelganger. Cardiff simply changed shirt colours

i'd really love to see your reaction if usmanov changed arsenal's shirt colour to blue, logo to a lion instead of a cannon, and plastered RUSSIA on the front of your shirts

che wrote:

Lex wrote:What a whiny girl. Wimbledon FC is a club that's truly dead, with MK Dons masquerading as their doppelganger. Cardiff simply changed shirt colours

i'd really love to see your reaction if usmanov changed arsenal's shirt colour to blue, logo to a lion instead of a cannon, and plastered RUSSIA on the front of your shirts