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Post by futbol Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:50 pm

> game against Arsenal
> big game

Choose one. Proud

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Post by Gil Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:58 pm

Proud

But seriously if he keeps performing like he has so far this season a Balon D'or could be on the cards. 20 goal + assist season in all comps plus consistent big game performances is enough providing he does well trophy wise (League + CL).

Dem tears if it happens. Proud
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Post by RealGunner Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:03 pm

MOTM against Arsenal? He was nowhere to be found apart from one or two genius runs. Wilshere was better than him.
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Post by Collblanc Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:06 pm

Who is Hazard? Does he speak Portugese or Spanish?

No?

Who is Hazard? Nobody cares.
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Post by Gil Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:08 pm

RealGunner wrote:MOTM against Arsenal? He was nowhere to be found apart from one or two genius runs. Wilshere was better than him.


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Post by farfan Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:15 pm

Gil wrote:Proud

But seriously if he keeps performing like he has so far this season a Balon D'or could be on the cards. 20 goal + assist season in all comps plus consistent big game performances is enough providing he does well trophy wise (League + CL).

Dem tears if it happens. Proud


unless an injury slows him down , i think CR7 will monopolize the ballon d'or for the next few years .
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Post by Gil Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:19 pm

farfan wrote:
Gil wrote:Proud

But seriously if he keeps performing like he has so far this season a Balon D'or could be on the cards. 20 goal + assist season in all comps plus consistent big game performances is enough providing he does well trophy wise (League + CL).

Dem tears if it happens. Proud


unless an injury slows him down , i think CR7 will monopolize the ballon d'or for the next few years .


That's true but I think if a player has a Ronaldinho/Kaka esque season then they'll have a shot at dethroning him.

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Post by Pip Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:32 pm

Gil wrote:As great a record as he's got. He's definitely stat padding like crazy. 30 out of the 40 have been in friendlies. Not his fault obviously but still....
Friendlies: 44 matches, 30 goals (0.68 goals per match)
Competitive: 14 matches, 10 goals (0.71 goals per match)

He scores at a higher rate in competitive matches than he does in friendlies. And those competitive goals have been against these teams:

Croatia (2014)
Cameroon (2014)
Japan (2013)
Mexico (2013)
Italy (2013)
Spain (2013)
Ecuador (2011)

Mostly quality opposition. And this excludes the Olympics since it's U23.

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Post by M99 Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:41 pm

Molenation Molenation Molenation

How could anyone seriously doubt his talent Laughing
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Post by LeSwagg James Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:43 pm

The pos should of joined Madrid Mad
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Post by Ganso Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:44 pm


"Muniain is better than Nerman"-Nick in 2012
"Neymar is going to warm the bench for Tello by the end of the season"-Hala 2013
"Robinho 2.0"- Basically everyone pre 2013

it feels good being right Proud
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Post by McAgger Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:53 pm

People trying to claim credit for calling Neymar becoming good rofl Everyone and their mothers knew it was going to happen.
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Post by Ganso Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:02 pm

Don't call me James wrote:People trying to claim credit for calling Neymar becoming good rofl  Everyone and their mothers knew it was going to happen.
what an utter load of bs, every neymar thread before the confederations cup was full of people hating on him.
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Post by Gil Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:12 pm

Ganso wrote:
"Muniain is better than Nerman"-Nick in 2012
"Neymar is going to warm the bench for Tello by the end of the season"-Hala 2013
"Robinho 2.0"- Basically everyone pre 2013

it feels good being right Proud

I was always a backer but I have to admit I strayed a little after that friendly against England. He was awful in that game.
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Post by Gil Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:13 pm

Pippo wrote:
Gil wrote:As great a record as he's got. He's definitely stat padding like crazy. 30 out of the 40 have been in friendlies. Not his fault obviously but still....
Friendlies: 44 matches, 30 goals (0.68 goals per match)
Competitive: 14 matches, 10 goals (0.71 goals per match)

He scores at a higher rate in competitive matches than he does in friendlies. And those competitive goals have been against these teams:

Croatia (2014)
Cameroon (2014)
Japan (2013)
Mexico (2013)
Italy (2013)
Spain (2013)
Ecuador (2011)

Mostly quality opposition. And this excludes the Olympics since it's U23.



Trust me I know how great he is I'm just saying his record is somewhat fraudulent considering he hasn't played any qualifiers before.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:46 pm

Hazard can't even stat-pad Laughing
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Post by Donuts Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:10 pm

So.. he scored 4 goals today against Japan.
Neymar has scored 13 goals for Barcelona [8] and Brazil [5] this season in 883 minutes. Goal every 68mins
he has 40 goals in the Brazilian shirt at the age of 22 only 37 goals away from top scorer Pele.
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Post by julias Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:31 pm

Gil wrote:
Ganso wrote:
"Muniain is better than Nerman"-Nick in 2012
"Neymar is going to warm the bench for Tello by the end of the season"-Hala 2013
"Robinho 2.0"- Basically everyone pre 2013

it feels good being right Proud

I was always a backer but I have to admit I strayed a little after that friendly against England. He was awful in that game.


I remember going to Wembley for that game

Nerman, Dinho and Wilshere all on the same pitch Proud

tbf to Nerman he was still at Santos and it was like Feb so he was pretty much still doing pre season

I've always been convinced of Nerman since that Transport documentary on him back in like 09, I just followed him since.

Only Pato has slightly let me down, but he will rise again dammit! Sad
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Post by zigra Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:33 pm

He'll score > 100 goals for Brasil in his whole career imo.
Hopefully he can take over the record from Ali Daei Laughing
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Post by Bankz Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:53 pm

Just a thought though. Well, Just realized that if neymar played for france, holland, spain, italy, argentina, portugal and england he could realistically be gunning for their national teams all time top scorer at age 23, considering their top scorers are somewhere btw 40-55 each, albeit some have played like 40+ more games than neymar (50+ in the case of cr7), considering he's still 22 and he still has like 2 games to go this year against turkey and austria in november.like wtf?..whats more mind blowing is that he's doing it in this shit brazilian nt full of scrubs..now, thats some insane modern day shit going on there.. Meanwhile neymar became brazils 5th all time top scorer behind zico (48), romario (53), ronaldo (62) and pele (77), in addition to being one of the only 5 players to score four goals in the brazilian NT..
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:59 pm

Does he have a better record than r9 at the same age?
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Post by RealGunner Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:01 pm

Yep. R9 had 29 goals at the age of 22
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Post by Gil Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:12 pm

You guys are forgetting he'll likely burn out around 28/29 though.
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Post by Ganso Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:19 pm

tbf to the other players like Zico and R9, Neymar was our best player and undisputed stater at 19.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:21 pm

Ronaldo to same age of Neymar was definitely better, stronger , greater etc than him   anyway . No contest for me . But it can't be a blame for Neymar.
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Post by Bankz Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:45 am

Lol, r9 at 19 was possibly the greatest talent in football history along with el diego but r9 just wins it for me..a striker who could hold his own against any forward at any point in history at any age grade stat-wise at the time and a striker who could also hold his own with any midfielder (till date) when it came to ball wizardry and technique. R9 was a footballing god..though to give credit where its due, nerman is one of the few players who scored a 100
goals as a teenager (against palmeiras in 2012)..along with R9, and pele (those are the one's i remember though as they're very few) and has scored over 200 career goals at 22..he scored it in brazil's warm up game before the world cup. At freaking 22. Wait, this guy won the hors concors award when he became too good for the brazilian league ffs..
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