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Post by S Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:47 pm

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Surag wrote:If these two sides met today,it would be shit in terms of quality but would guarantee you 100% entertainment for the neutrals just like the Premier League games which were played over the weekend.

Although a lot could change over two months time.

There was no quality in the PL games ? what ?

Yeah was talking about the higher scoreline games.Was shoddy defending all round.

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Post by B-Mac Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:50 pm

cyberman wrote:It's kagawa and nani that will make the difference IMO.
Those two torturing Madrid out wide will be hilarious to see

Nani won't be on this team by the end of January sadly, have you not noticed he hasn't played for us in about 2 months
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Post by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:52 pm

Injured his hamstring, he's in Dubai resting up for the 2nd half of the season.

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Post by the xcx Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:55 pm

This game will not be judged over someones a bit superior midfield Laughing..Utd has bunch of scrubs in the middle and the way they tend to leave the space open from midfield to defence, its going to be fun seeing ur back 4 teared apart Laughing
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Post by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:59 pm

We concede early v small teams when we know we can outscore them. V big teams we get lazy cause were 2 up and coasting.
You're scared and you know it. We're not and you know that too

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Post by B-Mac Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:59 pm

cyberman wrote:Injured his hamstring, he's in Dubai resting up for the 2nd half of the season.

hasn't signed contract extension tho, he wont make it till February if something doesn't change
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Post by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:01 pm

Sir Alex has said he won't sell him tho

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Post by the xcx Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:04 pm

cyberman wrote:We concede early v small teams when we know we can outscore them. V big teams we get lazy cause were 2 up and coasting.
You're scared and you know it. We're not and you know that too
Your "superior midfield" means nothing Laughing, stop flattering as if it holds any ground. 1/3 of the games in la liga last year we also were not in control of a midfield yet we still managed to trash them. Evra, Rio, Vidic, wow Im scared Laughing
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Post by Donuts Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:59 pm

This thread is going lol worthy once the game is finished.
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Post by Die Borussen Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:06 pm

can't wait for the game : /

according to my last game on fifa madrid will win comfortably without conceding a single goal smoking

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Post by Kuru Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:20 pm

The xcx wrote:This game will not be judged over someones a bit superior midfield Laughing..Utd has bunch of scrubs in the middle and the way they tend to leave the space open from midfield to defence, its going to be fun seeing ur back 4 teared apart Laughing

So what? It's not like Madrid use their midfield, except when Modric tries, that area of the field is left completely empty, and the ball is usually hoofed to one of the wingers, till it falls to Ozil who tries to orchestrate a proper buildup to an attack. Which baffles me really, considering Madrid is a Spanish team and all.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:39 pm

Besides its a load of rubbish.....

Cleverly and Carrick are not scrubs and Rooney practically acts as an extra midfielder in top games.

He's no less of a midfielder than Ozil is.

I really fail to see how Khedira-Alonso-Ozil is comfortably better than Carrick-Cleverly-Rooney tbh....

Also as Kuru says Madrid don't even use it and there's no better team in Europe at using the wings to destroy teams than United.

I don't understand where people get this notion that Utd's midfield is garbage its their defence that has issues not the midfield.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:05 pm

Well said Great Leader.Carrick and Cleverley are in a great partnership this year and the wings are doing very well.Offensively speaking, Manchester United is one of the best in europe this season, they always were in the top.The problems come from David De Gea who lacks experience and is not good enough at communicating with defenders.We also didn't have a settled CB partnership last 2 years because of frequently injuries.Rafael is doing good now, he improved his man marking abilities and he has been for sure the best Right Back in EPL this season.Rio has his old back and knee problems so it's hard for him to keep the pace with Real Madrid's counter-attacks, but Evans with Vidic in form should be an interesting CB partnership.Smalling and Jones are too unexperienced to have a chance against Real Madrid.Evra have been in a great form recently, especially when it comes about offensive tasks.

The point is that Manchester United with Nani, Valencia and Young can cause big problems to the opposite defensive with the help of Rafael & Evra who seem to have an important word in the attacks of MUTD.Best attacking in Europe based on wings for more than a decade.But also, there are big problems in defence and Real Madrid are maybe the best counter-attacking team in the world.
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Post by RED Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:50 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Besides its a load of rubbish.....

Cleverly and Carrick are not scrubs and Rooney practically acts as an extra midfielder in top games.

He's no less of a midfielder than Ozil is.

I really fail to see how Khedira-Alonso-Ozil is comfortably better than Carrick-Cleverly-Rooney tbh....

Also as Kuru says Madrid don't even use it and there's no better team in Europe at using the wings to destroy teams than United.

I don't understand where people get this notion that Utd's midfield is garbage its their defence that has issues not the midfield.

A stereotype that will unfortunately stick for a while unfortunately. people need to take the time and watch just how well Cleverley and Carrick have been playing together recently. Both were solid v City weeks ago.

Our mf only suffers when either giggs or scholes starts this season.
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Post by jibers Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:06 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Besides its a load of rubbish.....

Cleverly and Carrick are not scrubs and Rooney practically acts as an extra midfielder in top games.

He's no less of a midfielder than Ozil is.

I really fail to see how Khedira-Alonso-Ozil is comfortably better than Carrick-Cleverly-Rooney tbh....

Also as Kuru says Madrid don't even use it and there's no better team in Europe at using the wings to destroy teams than United.

I don't understand where people get this notion that Utd's midfield is garbage its their defence that has issues not the midfield.

Said our MF was good and you said that we needed a new mf on chat :coffee:

You've changed your tune eh...

This MF nonsense is due to Barcelona ffs. United have never been a mf team and we will never be one under SAF.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:10 pm

I didn't think Cleverly would come along this fast and also didn't believe Rooney would be this good as an AM.....

As i have said in past in some strange way Van Persie signing strengthened the midfield.

You do need some depth in midfield though....
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:21 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:anyone who saw what Vidic did for Uniteds defence on the weekend knows with him healthy United are a different animal at the back. man is a absolute monster

Laughing who were you playing in the weekend? Wigan? Reading? West Brom?

Yeah Madrid got no chance, the all mighty Yanited defense kept a clean sheet against top PL dogs.
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Post by jibers Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:22 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I didn't think Cleverly would come along this fast and also didn't believe Rooney would be this good as an AM.....

As i have said in past in some strange way Van Persie signing strengthened the midfield.

You do need some depth in midfield though....

So I was right then? Not the first time :coffee:

U mad? Yea we need depth because Anderson is permanently in the hospital, Fletcher will probably never be 100% and Powell is too young.
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Post by RED Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:26 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:anyone who saw what Vidic did for Uniteds defence on the weekend knows with him healthy United are a different animal at the back. man is a absolute monster

Laughing who were you playing in the weekend? Wigan? Reading? West Brom?

Yeah Madrid got no chance, the all mighty Yanited defense kept a clean sheet against top PL dogs.

You can only beat what's in front of you. Matter of fact, nearly every team was scoring against Utd (even QPR managed to score at OT...smh). Any type of clean sheet is a cause for celebration atm. lol
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:29 pm

RED wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:anyone who saw what Vidic did for Uniteds defence on the weekend knows with him healthy United are a different animal at the back. man is a absolute monster

Laughing who were you playing in the weekend? Wigan? Reading? West Brom?

Yeah Madrid got no chance, the all mighty Yanited defense kept a clean sheet against top PL dogs.

You can only beat what's in front of you. Matter of fact, nearly every team was scoring against Utd (even QPR managed to score at OT...smh). Any type of clean sheet is a cause for celebration atm. lol

Well maybe the defense looked a different beast because the opposition's attack was shite? All I'm saying, it'll take something else to stop the Ronaldos and Benzemas of this world than it is to stop Arouna Kone or Pogrebnyak.
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Post by RED Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:32 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
RED wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

Laughing who were you playing in the weekend? Wigan? Reading? West Brom?

Yeah Madrid got no chance, the all mighty Yanited defense kept a clean sheet against top PL dogs.

You can only beat what's in front of you. Matter of fact, nearly every team was scoring against Utd (even QPR managed to score at OT...smh). Any type of clean sheet is a cause for celebration atm. lol

Well maybe the defense looked a different beast because the opposition's attack was shite? All I'm saying, it'll take something else to stop the Ronaldos and Benzemas of this world than it is to stop Arouna Kone or Pogrebnyak.

for sure. I agree.

With Vidic back, I feel we can cope. For me he is still the best cb around.
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Post by B-Mac Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:44 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:anyone who saw what Vidic did for Uniteds defence on the weekend knows with him healthy United are a different animal at the back. man is a absolute monster

Laughing who were you playing in the weekend? Wigan? Reading? West Brom?

Yeah Madrid got no chance, the all mighty Yanited defense kept a clean sheet against top PL dogs.

don't be mad cuz Vidic is twice the player Agger is :coffee:
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:12 pm

Cleverley-Carrick-Rooney better than Khedira-Alonso-Ozil ? Neutral

Let's see

Alonso> Cleverley
Khedira > Carrick
Ozil >>> Rooney
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Post by B-Mac Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:18 pm

likeastar wrote:Cleverley-Carrick-Rooney better than Khedira-Alonso-Ozil ? Neutral

Let's see

Alonso> Cleverley
Khedira > Carrick
Ozil >>> Rooney

:facepalm:

someone who clearly doesn't watch United play
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Post by Kuru Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:46 pm

likeastar wrote:Cleverley-Carrick-Rooney better than Khedira-Alonso-Ozil ? Neutral

Let's see

Alonso> Cleverley
Khedira > Carrick
Ozil >>> Rooney

Doesn't matter really, since tactically, Alonso - Khedia - Ozil trio doesn't exist, it's more of a Ramos - Alonso, Khedira - DiMaria, Ozil - Benzema, and - for the midfield.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:58 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:anyone who saw what Vidic did for Uniteds defence on the weekend knows with him healthy United are a different animal at the back. man is a absolute monster

Laughing who were you playing in the weekend? Wigan? Reading? West Brom?

Yeah Madrid got no chance, the all mighty Yanited defense kept a clean sheet against top PL dogs.

don't be mad cuz Vidic is twice the player Agger is :coffee:

+1 and +10 Smile

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