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Post by Bellabong Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:34 pm

I find it extremely hard to disagree with this. The only real contentious point for me is Carvajal over Pisczek but he was injured.

Slight disagreement about the exclusion of Adler but that's because of the way WhoScored judges goalkeepers (Saves are heavily weighted so midtable GK's are on top)

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The "real" WhoScored team of the season (see below for explanation)
------------------Pegolo

Carvajal - Ranocchia -- Chielini ---- Baines

---------Capue--------------Pirlo

Müller ---------- Hernanes-------- Ribéry

------------------Messi

WhoScored wrote:Top 5 for each position:
GK:
1. (7.24) Pegolo - Siena
1. (7.24) Iraizoz - Atletic Bilbao
3. (7.20) Adler - HSV
4. (7.14) Agassa - Reims
5. (7.12) Andrés - Osasuna

RB:
1. (7.49) Caravajal - Bayer Leverkusen
2. (7.46) Höwedes - Schalke 04
3. (7.42) Lahm - Bayern München
4. (7.40) De Sciglio - AC Milan
4. (7.40) Fagner - Wolfsburg

CB:
1. (7.98) Ranocchia - Inter Milan
2. (7.78) Chielini - Juventus
3. (7.68) Westermann - HSV
4. (7.66) Campagnaro - Napoli
5. (7.66) Samuel - Inter

LB:
1. (7.60) Baines - Everton
2. (7.44) Oczipka - Eintracht Frankfurt
3. (7.44) Monreal - Malaga
4. (7.39) Kadleç - Bayer Leverkusen
5. (7.37) Damiá - Osasuna

DM:
1. (7.91) Pirlo - Juventus
2. (7.65) Capue - Toulouse
3. (7.54) Camacho - Malaga
4. (7.52) D. Pizarro - Fiorentina
4. (7.52) Asamoah - Juventus

CM:
1. (7.93) Hernanes - Lazio
2. (7.92) Cazorla - Arsenal
3. (7.71) Vidal - Juventus
4. (7.67) Fellaini - Everton
5. (7.46) Schweinsteiger - Bayern München

CAM:
1. (7.77) Diego - Wolfsburg
2. (7.76) Kroos - Bayern München
3. (7.64) Hamsik - Napoli
4. (7.57) Götze - BVB Dortmund
5. (7.51) Meier - Freiburg

MR/AMR:
1. (8.01) Müller - Bayern München
2. (7.92) Lamela - Roma
3. (7.81) Farfán - Schalke 04
4. (7.68) Blaszczykowski - BVB Dortmund
5. (7.50) Reus - BVB Dortmund

ML/AML:
1. (8.81) Ribéry - Bayern München
2. (7.82) Ronaldo - Real Madrid
3. (7.73) Totti - AS Roma
4. (7.67) Schürrle - Leverkusen
5. (7.55) Caligiuri - Freiburg

FW:
1. (8.90) Messi - Barcelona
2. (7.91) Ibrahimoviç - PSG
3. (7.81) Jovetiç - Fiorentina
4. (7.77) Kießling - Leverkusen
5. (7.73) Cavani - Napoli


Based on Opta stats.


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Post by Art Morte Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:57 pm

The problem with these is that attacking midfielders always get more favourable ratings. But if you field a midfield full of attacking players you are going to fail.
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Post by guest7 Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:00 pm

I think Messi should be dropped to the midfield replacing Hernanes and Falcao takes his spot. I also think CR should be there instead of either Muller or Ribery.
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Post by Mamad Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:00 pm

And we sold Carvajal....
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:06 pm

apparently he wasn't experienced enough :facepalm:

Anyways that team does not look too bad with the way things are panning out so far, the inclusion of Cathorla is still abit iffy for me, personally i'd have picked Isco over him but its a great line up nonetheless
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:10 pm

I have watched the last 5 Atletico games and to say Falcao has been underwhelming would be an understatement.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:12 pm

you are perfectly right, he has been well below the standards we used to see him play at the start of the season, but you can't fault him sometimes because in some games Atleti didn't even create chances to score only to get a shot at the end which would go in.



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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:14 pm

Se7en wrote:I think Messi should be dropped to the midfield replacing Hernanes and Falcao takes his spot. I also think CR should be there instead of either Muller or Ribery.

Have you watched Bayern this season?

Muller and Ribery have been outstanding, much more impressive than CR has been anyway.

Anyway this is a team based on stats so it's hardly worth paying attention to.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:15 pm

weirdly enough i like this kind of line ups compared with Uefa's biased ones

i look at the shortlists and i quickly close the window on my browser

cant wait till the forwards come out, Villa anyone Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:31 pm

Silly line up, too many of these players dont play in those positions.

Santi and Hernanes in centermidfield? Really?

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Post by Ganso Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:39 pm

The Franchise wrote:Silly line up, too many of these players dont play in those positions.

Santi and Hernanes in centermidfield? Really?

I think Hernanes is playing CM for Lazio
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Post by Bellabong Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:56 pm

I find it strange that WhoScored went for 4-4-2 when they've admitted that 4-2-3-1 is the most used formation.

Looking at their performance ratings the "real" WhoScored team of the season is:

Carvajal - Ranocchia -- Chielini ---- Baines

----------Capue---------Pirlo

Müller --------- Hernanes---------- Ribéry

----------------Messi

(Cazorla is labelled as a CM, Vidal too so if we ignore all the CM's the next official DM in line would be Capue but Vidal, & Fellaini are rated higher and should have DM labels)

But a better tactical fit imo is the Juve duo of Vidal and Pirlo with Ibra as CF and Messi CAM. The 7 subs (based on WhoScored ratings and versatility) would be Hernanes, Kießling (beating out Cavani by 0.02 lol), Camacho, Ronaldo, Samuel, Lahm and Oczipka.

Carvajal - Ranocchia -- Chielini ---- Baines

----------Vidal -----------Pirlo

Müller ---------- Messi ----------- Ribéry

--------------Ibrahimoviç

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Post by Albiceleste Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:01 pm

Se7en wrote:I think Messi should be dropped to the midfield replacing Hernanes and Falcao takes his spot. I also think CR should be there instead of either Muller or Ribery.
Messi and CRonaldo are just fine where they are Laughing

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Post by Abramovich Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:01 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Se7en wrote:I think Messi should be dropped to the midfield replacing Hernanes and Falcao takes his spot. I also think CR should be there instead of either Muller or Ribery.

Have you watched Bayern this season?

Muller and Ribery have been outstanding, much more impressive than CR has been anyway.

Anyway this is a team based on stats so it's hardly worth paying attention to.

Of course he hasn't he's a mehdrid fan, a typical comment from their lot on this forum.

The list seems good to me aside from the keeper who I've never watched properly.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:03 pm

Ganso wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Silly line up, too many of these players dont play in those positions.

Santi and Hernanes in centermidfield? Really?

I think Hernanes is playing CM for Lazio

The difference between being the most advanced CM in a 3 man midfield and a being one of the 2 CMs in a 4-4-2 and the other being Santi Cazorla is quite drastic lol.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:06 pm

Ganso wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Silly line up, too many of these players dont play in those positions.

Santi and Hernanes in centermidfield? Really?

I think Hernanes is playing CM for Lazio

I could be mistake, I have seen exactly 2 Lazio games this season. Still, I do wonder what a defensive midfielder has to do to get in the team.
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:39 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Ganso wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Silly line up, too many of these players dont play in those positions.

Santi and Hernanes in centermidfield? Really?

I think Hernanes is playing CM for Lazio

I could be mistake, I have seen exactly 2 Lazio games this season. Still, I do wonder what a defensive midfielder has to do to get in the team.

Average Bout 8 interceptions and 8 tackles a game.

Who you thinking should be there anyway?
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Post by Bellabong Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:34 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Ganso wrote:I think Hernanes is playing CM for Lazio

I could be mistake, I have seen exactly 2 Lazio games this season. Still, I do wonder what a defensive midfielder has to do to get in the team.

Average Bout 8 interceptions and 8 tackles a game.

Who you thinking should be there anyway?

Well what happens is that to fill in the CM positions they include all CAM/CM/DM's. The top 3 midfielders who can play DM/mislabelled as CM's so far according to WhoScored are Pirlo, Vidal and Fellaini. If we go with the 4-4-2 and put one DM and one CM/CAM then we would end up with Hernanes and Pirlo as the 4-4-2 CMs which is pretty legit.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:49 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Ganso wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Silly line up, too many of these players dont play in those positions.

Santi and Hernanes in centermidfield? Really?

I think Hernanes is playing CM for Lazio

I could be mistake, I have seen exactly 2 Lazio games this season. Still, I do wonder what a defensive midfielder has to do to get in the team.

Average Bout 8 interceptions and 8 tackles a game.

Who you thinking should be there anyway?

Doesnt matter what stats he has, stll doesnt appear right. I mean the best 11 should at least have some hope of being able to play a functional game.

I dont know who should be there, but to be honest I think it makes more sense playing 4231 anyway seeing as so many teams do play the formation.

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Post by the xcx Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:15 pm

Is the formation layed out properly or am I seeing Ribery and Müller as SCMs...
I dont agree with Müller being on that list tho.
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Post by Bellabong Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:20 pm

The xcx wrote:Is the formation layed out properly or am I seeing Ribery and Müller as SCMs...
I dont agree with Müller being on that list tho.

Well who would you rather have on the right wing (excluding that you obviously haven't seen Müller this season)? The top 5 are Müller, Lamela, Farfán, Kuba and Reus.

WhoScored wrote:
Top 5 for each position:
GK:
1. (7.24) Pegolo - Siena
1. (7.24) Iraizoz - Atletic Bilbao
3. (7.20) Adler - HSV
4. (7.14) Agassa - Reims
5. (7.12) Andrés - Osasuna

RB:
1. (7.49) Caravajal - Bayer Leverkusen
2. (7.46) Höwedes - Schalke 04
3. (7.42) Lahm - Bayern München
4. (7.40) De Sciglio - AC Milan
4. (7.40) Fagner - Wolfsburg

CB:
1. (7.98) Ranocchia - Inter Milan
2. (7.78) Chielini - Juventus
3. (7.68) Westermann - HSV
4. (7.66) Campagnaro - Napoli
5. (7.66) Samuel - Inter

LB:
1. (7.60) Baines - Everton
2. (7.44) Oczipka - Eintracht Frankfurt
3. (7.44) Monreal - Malaga
4. (7.39) Kadleç - Bayer Leverkusen
5. (7.37) Damiá - Osasuna

DM:
1. (7.91) Pirlo - Juventus
2. (7.65) Capue - Toulouse
3. (7.54) Camacho - Malaga
4. (7.52) D. Pizarro - Fiorentina
4. (7.52) Asamoah - Juventus

CM:
1. (7.93) Hernanes - Lazio
2. (7.92) Cazorla - Arsenal
3. (7.71) Vidal - Juventus
4. (7.67) Fellaini - Everton
5. (7.46) Schweinsteiger - Bayern München

CAM:
1. (7.77) Diego - Wolfsburg
2. (7.76) Kroos - Bayern München
3. (7.64) Hamsik - Napoli
4. (7.57) Götze - BVB Dortmund
5. (7.51) Meier - Freiburg

MR/AMR:
1. (8.01) Müller - Bayern München
2. (7.92) Lamela - Roma
3. (7.81) Farfán - Schalke 04
4. (7.68) Blaszczykowski - BVB Dortmund
5. (7.50) Reus - BVB Dortmund

ML/AML:
1. (8.81) Ribéry - Bayern München
2. (7.82) Ronaldo - Real Madrid
3. (7.73) Totti - AS Roma
4. (7.67) Schürrle - Leverkusen
5. (7.55) Caligiuri - Freiburg

FW:
1. (8.90) Messi - Barcelona
2. (7.91) Ibrahimoviç - PSG
3. (7.81) Jovetiç - Fiorentina
4. (7.77) Kießling - Leverkusen
5. (7.73) Cavani - Napoli


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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:28 pm

Witha rating of 7.92 Erik Lamela just loses out to Muller and beats Ronaldo in his position :coffee:
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Post by Bellabong Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:35 pm

Good thing this forum has a relatively low amount of premfaces - Fellaini, Cazorla and Baines being the only representatives in a top 4 for each position would cause some consternation.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:53 pm

Carjaval :bow:
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Post by Gil Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:58 pm

Stats need to be banned from football.
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