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Post by Albiceleste Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:52 pm

If we've got the money I would hope we lay down the big bucks and buy Vertonghen.

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Post by ChollaVille Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:00 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:If we've got the money I would hope we lay down the big bucks and buy Vertonghen.

Botia €2M > €Bigmoney Vertonghen
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Post by The Franchise Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:17 pm

Botia isnt good enough though.

Pique, Puyol, Fontas, Abidal...all 4 will get used in games before him.

No point signing a centerback just for the sake of it.
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Post by matpol Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:20 pm

Fontas is awful and definitely worse than Botia. Shame that we didn't buy back Botia. I don't rate Fontas, from all of this La Masia defenders I think he is the worst, too slow. Bartra, Muniesa and Sergi Gomez IMO have more chances of making it than Fontas.
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Post by ChollaVille Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:28 pm

Botia is over Fontas in NT.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:30 pm

Fontas is awful based on what?

He is very confortable on the ball, very composed, he strong and plays very mature.

He is slow, thats his main weakness.

Bartra cant tackle, he has great speed but he quick weak and again, cant tackle.

Muniesa and Sergi Gomez are babies, Fontas is much closer to being ready to play for us then those two.

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Post by The Franchise Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:32 pm

ChollaVille wrote:Botia is over Fontas in NT.

Maicon was over Dani Alves......might be again soon.


Anyway, Botia played an entire season for Sporting...he got alot more experience and plays often.

Fontas was essentially in the Segunda last season.

Its only normal Botia should play for the NT over Fontas, doesnt make him better though.
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Post by ChollaVille Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:39 pm

The Franchise wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:Botia is over Fontas in NT.

Maicon was over Dani Alves......might be again soon.


Anyway, Botia played an entire season for Sporting...he got alot more experience and plays often.

Fontas was essentially in the Segunda last season.

Its only normal Botia should play for the NT over Fontas, doesnt make him better though.


True, but we have 3 CB, why not buy Botia for €2M, he would be good competition for Fontas, one of them is going to be very good in future. It is not big money, if he is not good enaugh we can sell him for same mony on end of the season.

My choice would be Thiago Silva, even for €30M + €5M bonuses (Maxwell out). We are still good enaugh with Masche/Abidal on CB and Adriano on LB, but if we don't buy Cesc, we should use that money for Thiago Silva.

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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:39 pm

The Franchise wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:Botia is over Fontas in NT.

Maicon was over Dani Alves......might be again soon.


Anyway, Botia played an entire season for Sporting...he got alot more experience and plays often.

Fontas was essentially in the Segunda last season.

Its only normal Botia should play for the NT over Fontas, doesnt make him better though.

warning level ? how does it change?
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Post by The Franchise Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:46 pm

ChollaVille wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:Botia is over Fontas in NT.

Maicon was over Dani Alves......might be again soon.


Anyway, Botia played an entire season for Sporting...he got alot more experience and plays often.

Fontas was essentially in the Segunda last season.

Its only normal Botia should play for the NT over Fontas, doesnt make him better though.


True, but we have 3 CB, why not buy Botia for €2M, he would be good competition for Fontas, one of them is going to be very good in future. It is not big money, if he is not good enaugh we can sell him for same mony on end of the season.

My choice would be Thiago Silva, even for €30M + €5M bonuses (Maxwell out). We are still good enaugh with Masche/Abidal on CB and Adriano on LB, but if we don't buy Cesc, we should use that money for Thiago Silva.


Well because we dont need competition for Fontas. We need a defender who is better then that.


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Post by The Franchise Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:47 pm

Khaledbarca wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:Botia is over Fontas in NT.

Maicon was over Dani Alves......might be again soon.


Anyway, Botia played an entire season for Sporting...he got alot more experience and plays often.

Fontas was essentially in the Segunda last season.

Its only normal Botia should play for the NT over Fontas, doesnt make him better though.

warning level ? how does it change?

Dont worry Khaled, other mods are constantly trolling each other and changing warning levels, flags ect
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Post by ChollaVille Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:54 pm

The Franchise wrote:

Well because we dont need competition for Fontas. We need a defender who is better then that.



But if we are going to buy better than Fntas, we should buy better than Puyol, or in same lavel with Puyol but younger.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:03 pm

ChollaVille wrote:
The Franchise wrote:

Well because we dont need competition for Fontas. We need a defender who is better then that.



But if we are going to buy better than Fntas, we should buy better than Puyol, or in same lavel with Puyol but younger.

Not really.

I dont know for me, I dont want to see Fontas, Botia or Busi at centerback for any important game.

I also wouldnt want anyone other then Abidal at leftback for a big game.

So, if one of Pique and Puyol are missing, it would be nice to have someone of a high level. Doesnt have to be Puyol leve but not miles away.

For example, we had Marquez and Pique. two at a similar level. Those 2 and Puyol was a solid 3 man rotation.
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Post by ChollaVille Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:12 pm

The Franchise wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:
The Franchise wrote:

Well because we dont need competition for Fontas. We need a defender who is better then that.



But if we are going to buy better than Fntas, we should buy better than Puyol, or in same lavel with Puyol but younger.

Not really.

I dont know for me, I dont want to see Fontas, Botia or Busi at centerback for any important game.

I also wouldnt want anyone other then Abidal at leftback for a big game.

So, if one of Pique and Puyol are missing, it would be nice to have someone of a high level. Doesnt have to be Puyol leve but not miles away.

For example, we had Marquez and Pique. two at a similar level. Those 2 and Puyol was a solid 3 man rotation.

But who? We need fast CB with good footwork. If you could choose anyone (including RM players) who would be 3rd CB for us?
Puyol is 33, 2 more years and it is over.
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:49 pm


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Post by Albiceleste Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:50 pm

ChollaVille wrote:

But who? We need fast CB with good footwork. If you could choose anyone (including RM players) who would be 3rd CB for us?
Puyol is 33, 2 more years and it is over.
In order of preference:
1. Thiago Silva
2. Vincent Kompany
3. Mamadou Sakho
4. Jan Vertonghen

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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:00 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:Botia is over Fontas in NT.

Maicon was over Dani Alves......might be again soon.


Anyway, Botia played an entire season for Sporting...he got alot more experience and plays often.

Fontas was essentially in the Segunda last season.

Its only normal Botia should play for the NT over Fontas, doesnt make him better though.

warning level ? how does it change?


Dont worry Khaled, other mods are constantly trolling each other and changing warning levels, flags ect

okay thx Smile


btw Fontas is will do fine next season! Smile
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:06 pm

Esteban Andrada:

"I couldn't say no to Barcelona"
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by shinigami99 Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:40 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:Esteban Andrada:

"I couldn't say no to Barcelona"
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Yea I hope that means that the deal is done....cause he is a good keeper..only letting a penalty in the U20 WC so far
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:44 pm

shinigami99 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Esteban Andrada:

"I couldn't say no to Barcelona"
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Yea I hope that means that the deal is done....cause he is a good keeper..only letting a penalty in the U20 WC so far
Yeah he's been very solid all tournament, I think he will be signed at the end of it.

Did you watch the game vs Egypt?

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Post by messixaviesta Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:19 am

The Franchise wrote:Fontas is awful based on what?

He is very confortable on the ball, very composed, he strong and plays very mature.

He is slow, thats his main weakness.

Bartra cant tackle, he has great speed but he quick weak and again, cant tackle.

Muniesa and Sergi Gomez are babies, Fontas is much closer to being ready to play for us then those two.


Very nice detailed explanation. I will repeat what I read in an article recently. With Puyol's age and Abidal's health problems, if Pique were to ever get injured, Barca would be left with not a single recognized center back. This is quite a big risk to take.

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Post by messixaviesta Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:21 am

The Franchise wrote:

Well because we dont need competition for Fontas. We need a defender who is better then that.


Exactly. Someone who will unquestionably be at least fourth in the pecking order of CBs and maybe even higher.

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Post by messixaviesta Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:24 am

[quote="The Franchise"]
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Not really.

I dont know for me, I dont want to see Fontas, Botia or Busi at centerback for any important game.

I also wouldnt want anyone other then Abidal at leftback for a big game.

So, if one of Pique and Puyol are missing, it would be nice to have someone of a high level. Doesnt have to be Puyol leve but not miles away.

For example, we had Marquez and Pique. two at a similar level. Those 2 and Puyol was a solid 3 man rotation.

Well said. Even Mascherano as CB, even though it's worked in the past, can be a problem against tall attackers who are good in the air.


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Post by messixaviesta Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:27 am

Meant for fun only.

http://www.sport.es/resources/jpg/6/3/1312836661436.jpg



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Post by messixaviesta Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:28 am

Do you think a crazier transfer than this has ever happened? Do you think this will happen?

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2011/08/09/2612657/samuel-etoo-move-from-inter-to-anzhi-makhachkala-is-almost


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Post by Albiceleste Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:27 am

I don't think it will go through to be honest, but that would certainly be quite crazy. Amazing business for Inter.

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