is not enough...

G.O.A.T s

Casillas and Xavi.

Wow. Remember at the start of the season in the SuperCopa, these two blokes having an argument when Marcelo put in that challenge on Fabregas? Now, look at them...
Unbelievable.

Spain's amazing run is pretty much down to those two guys right there.

Zealous wrote:Spain's amazing run is pretty much down to those two guys right there.

All to do with Cruyff

Cruyff is an arogant loser. He has nothing to do with anything.

Zealous wrote:Spain's amazing run is pretty much down to those two guys right there.

Can't forget the guy who has been a cornerstone of our team since he was 18.

Our defensive leader, Our Inspiration

Spoiler:

And Iniesta.

Zealous wrote:Cruyff is an arogant loser. He has nothing to do with anything.

LOl dream on, Spain's playing style is Barcelona's. Not Madrid's, not anyones. Cruyff is the godfather of this playong style whether you accept it or not. Without this playing style Psian would have won sod all.

Renus Michels?

paxtonpale wrote:Wow. Remember at the start of the season in the SuperCopa, these two blokes having an argument when Marcelo put in that challenge on Fabregas? Now, look at them...
Unbelievable.

they're actually best friends off the field

Casillas and Xavi!

mtfootball wrote:And Iniesta.

Thank you. I thought he had become invisible in this discussion since he is so pale.

I have for long said that Spain's five best players in this extraordinarily glorious period are Casillas, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta and Villa in whatever order.

Since Puyol and Villa didn't come this time and still we won the three greatest heroes of this Spanish era for me undoubdely are Casillas, Xavi and Iniesta. The latter two have been players of the tournaments in one Euro each and man of the match in several of the matches including Iniesta in the WC 2010 final. Casillas does not get the individual awards since he is a goalkeeper but he's been the life and soul of this team and his performance in the present tournament I think was nearly flawless.

Only after these three comes David Villa. As for the fifth position after his performance in Euro 2012 Sergio Ramos is now closely competing with Carles Puyol for that.

BTW do you all know any other player who has won man of the match in both a World Cup and a Euro final? I ask because Iniesta has done just that in case some may have forgotten. I think Zidane may have won in 1998 and 2000 but not sure. Also maybe in the 70s a German like Gerd Muller may have got it but unlikely. Anyway it's another outstanding achievement.

messixaviesta wrote:BTW do you all know any other player who has won man of the match in both a World Cup and a Euro final? I ask because Iniesta has done just that in case some may have forgotten. I think Zidane may have won in 1998 and 2000 but not sure. Also maybe in the 70s a German like Gerd Muller may have got it but unlikely. Anyway it's another outstanding achievement.

Zidane wasn't Man of the Match in Euro 2000 Final, Totti got that Award. As for Gerd Muller, he got MOM of 1974 WC Final, but in 1972 Euro there wasn't an award for MOM. So maybe Iniesta is the first player to be Man of the Match in both WC and Euro Finals?

matpol wrote:
Zidane wasn't Man of the Match in Euro 2000 Final, Totti got that Award. As for Gerd Muller, he got MOM of 1974 WC Final, but in 1972 Euro there wasn't an award for MOM. So maybe Iniesta is the first player to be Man of the Match in both WC and Euro Finals?

Thanks matpol. I had similar thoughts. I think if Euro 1972 final had that award, Gunther Netzer would have probably got it. Anyway all this makes Iniesta's achievement INCREDIBLE.

jibers wrote:

Zealous wrote:Cruyff is an arogant loser. He has nothing to do with anything.

LOl dream on, Spain's playing style is Barcelona's. Not Madrid's, not anyones. Cruyff is the godfather of this playong style whether you accept it or not. Without this playing style Psian would have won sod all.

Cruyff didn't invent anything, except maybe putting your foot in your mouth which he did countless times in his time as a footballer/coach.

Zealous wrote:

jibers wrote:

Zealous wrote:Cruyff is an arogant loser. He has nothing to do with anything.

LOl dream on, Spain's playing style is Barcelona's. Not Madrid's, not anyones. Cruyff is the godfather of this playong style whether you accept it or not. Without this playing style Psian would have won sod all.

Cruyff didn't invent anything, except maybe putting your foot in your mouth which he did countless times in his time as a footballer/coach.

Cruyff laid the foundation for your precious, overrated, Spanish team. He was and is a legend whether you like it or not.

still an arogant loser

deadrave wrote:still an arogant loser

Considering that his dutch team is still one of the best ever, and he's by no means a poor player, calling him a loser is hardly fair. And he's not arrogant by any stretch. It's not bragging if you can back it up.

He's not the most pleasant person, but he's light years more tolerable than Maradona, and his ideas are the basis for your success. I wouldn't be so harsh if I were you.

ACMRox wrote:

deadrave wrote:still an arogant loser

Considering that his dutch team is still one of the best ever, and he's by no means a poor player, calling him a loser is hardly fair. And he's not arrogant by any stretch. It's not bragging if you can back it up.

He's not the most pleasant person, but he's light years more tolerable than Maradona, and his ideas are the basis for your success. I wouldn't be so harsh if I were you.

for my success? im not spanish

deadrave wrote:

ACMRox wrote:

deadrave wrote:still an arogant loser

Considering that his dutch team is still one of the best ever, and he's by no means a poor player, calling him a loser is hardly fair. And he's not arrogant by any stretch. It's not bragging if you can back it up.

He's not the most pleasant person, but he's light years more tolerable than Maradona, and his ideas are the basis for your success. I wouldn't be so harsh if I were you.

for my success? im not spanish

You aren't a fan of this Spanish team? Nationality has nothing to do with it. I love Brazil and I'm Egyptian...

ACMRox wrote:

deadrave wrote:

ACMRox wrote:

deadrave wrote:still an arogant loser

Considering that his dutch team is still one of the best ever, and he's by no means a poor player, calling him a loser is hardly fair. And he's not arrogant by any stretch. It's not bragging if you can back it up.

He's not the most pleasant person, but he's light years more tolerable than Maradona, and his ideas are the basis for your success. I wouldn't be so harsh if I were you.

for my success? im not spanish

You aren't a fan of this Spanish team? Nationality has nothing to do with it. I love Brazil and I'm Egyptian...

no, although i support madrid therefore i call cruyff an arogant loser
he talks too much about real madrid you know

im a fan of greece NT :d and this euro i supported portugal too

even though spain has a lot real madrid players i would have prefered italy to win it, was kinda sad watching pirlo's tears

deadrave wrote:

ACMRox wrote:

deadrave wrote:

ACMRox wrote:

deadrave wrote:still an arogant loser

Considering that his dutch team is still one of the best ever, and he's by no means a poor player, calling him a loser is hardly fair. And he's not arrogant by any stretch. It's not bragging if you can back it up.

He's not the most pleasant person, but he's light years more tolerable than Maradona, and his ideas are the basis for your success. I wouldn't be so harsh if I were you.

for my success? im not spanish

You aren't a fan of this Spanish team? Nationality has nothing to do with it. I love Brazil and I'm Egyptian...

no, although i support madrid therefore i call cruyff an arogant loser
he talks too much about real madrid you know

im a fan of greece NT :d and this euro i supported portugal too

even though spain has a lot real madrid players i would have prefered italy to win it, was kinda sad watching pirlo's tears

Ah... Cruyff tends to offend people.

Still, you can't deny his accomplishments, especially considering Spain's success.