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Re: Tim Howard lashes out
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@Oranjes
The statistic is 86% were mexican fans so relax it's not a problem. 80k out of the 93k.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
Everything I said came from here. It's all true bro. I was watching it, it didn't bother me much because I was focused on the game. But I would understand why howard was bothered by it.
Hey thanks Messi I try xD,RedOranje wrote:Statistically inaccurate, full of assumptions, fallacious arguments, and generally wrong suggestions, but otherwise a great post, I agree.Lionel Messi wrote:Great postMessi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
@Oranjes
The statistic is 86% were mexican fans so relax it's not a problem. 80k out of the 93k.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
Everything I said came from here. It's all true bro. I was watching it, it didn't bother me much because I was focused on the game. But I would understand why howard was bothered by it.
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Classy.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:Completely different, it was easy to see that most of the stadium was filled with Mexico fans.
Its easy to see that many Barca players are cowards
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Messi wrote:
The statistic is 86% were mexican fans so relax it's not a problem. 80k out of the 93k.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
Reading comprehension ftw
"seemingly"
Thats not a fking statistic... thats bill plaschke the village idiot using the same herp a derp logic that you two are using
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Lionel Messi wrote:Classy.
Its your logic not mine
Don't hate the player hate the game.....that you created
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My logic? Why would you even bring that up, stay on topic please. Make another thread on your thoughts about Barca please, this about Tim Howard's post game comments.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:Classy.
Its your logic not mine
Don't hate the player hate the game.....that you created
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Lionel Messi wrote:My logic? Why would you even bring that up, stay on topic please. Make another thread on your thoughts about Barca please, this about Tim Howard's post game comments.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:Classy.
Its your logic not mine
Don't hate the player hate the game.....that you created
and woooooosh the point goes soaring overhead
this has nothing to do with barca, im just using your own logic against you
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How is my logic idiotic? The statistic is inaccurate of course but not far from the truhbhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:My logic? Why would you even bring that up, stay on topic please. Make another thread on your thoughts about Barca please, this about Tim Howard's post game comments.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:Classy.
Its your logic not mine
Don't hate the player hate the game.....that you created
and woooooosh the point goes soaring overhead
this has nothing to do with barca, im just using your own idiotic logic against you
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Don't hate the player hate the game.....bhends wrote:Messi wrote:
The statistic is 86% were mexican fans so relax it's not a problem. 80k out of the 93k.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
Reading comprehension ftw
"seemingly"
Thats not a fking statistic... thats bill plaschke the village idiot using the same herp a derp logic that you two are using
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Lionel Messi wrote:The statistic is inaccurate of course but not far from the truh
Right....just like my statistic about Barca
Mexico has more fans than USA -> 90% Mexican!!!
Barca has more cowards than your average team -> 90% Divers!!!
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Are you on crack or just amusing your self talking nonsense?bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:The statistic is inaccurate of course but not far from the truh
Right....just like my statistic about Barca
Mexico has more fans than USA -> 90% Mexican!!!
Barca has more cowards than your average team -> 90% Divers!!!
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Bhends what the hell has gotten into you. All he said was "I THOUGHT it was accurate"
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What is your point? Go talk about that in another thread and stop trying to derail this one. I never said Mexico has more fans than USA, I just said I agree'd on his statement that most of the fans at the stadium were Mexican. What is your problem?bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:The statistic is inaccurate of course but not far from the truh
Right....just like my statistic about Barca
Mexico has more fans than USA -> 90% Mexican!!!
Barca has more cowards than your average team -> 90% Divers!!!
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I think he likes your profile picture :@:Lionel Messi wrote:What is your point? Go talk about that in another thread and stop trying to derail this one. I never said Mexico has more fans than USA, I just said I agree'd on his statement that most of the fans at the stadium were Mexican. What is your problem?bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:The statistic is inaccurate of course but not far from the truh
Right....just like my statistic about Barca
Mexico has more fans than USA -> 90% Mexican!!!
Barca has more cowards than your average team -> 90% Divers!!!
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Derailing the thread?
The thread is about Tim Howards postgame comments - true or false?
"messi" determines that Howards comments were as a result of the crowd being 90% Mexican - true or false?
I call him out for pulling numbers out his ass...it then emerges that he did not in fact do that, instead he quoted Bill Plaschke (The Village Idiot, seriously, google it) who theorized in great detail that it seemed to him that there were 80,000 Mexicans in the stands based on the following research:
"Hmmm....Sure are a lot of Mexicans in here"
Then you jump in with the gem that even though the statistic is clearly not correct, the thought is close enough,
AKA The Senator John Kyl Defense: "My statement [that planned parenthood is 90% abortions] was not meant to be factual"
Remind me how this is derailing the thread
The thread is about Tim Howards postgame comments - true or false?
"messi" determines that Howards comments were as a result of the crowd being 90% Mexican - true or false?
I call him out for pulling numbers out his ass...it then emerges that he did not in fact do that, instead he quoted Bill Plaschke (The Village Idiot, seriously, google it) who theorized in great detail that it seemed to him that there were 80,000 Mexicans in the stands based on the following research:
"Hmmm....Sure are a lot of Mexicans in here"
Then you jump in with the gem that even though the statistic is clearly not correct, the thought is close enough,
AKA The Senator John Kyl Defense: "My statement [that planned parenthood is 90% abortions] was not meant to be factual"
Remind me how this is derailing the thread
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sigh.bhends wrote:Derailing the thread?
The thread is about Tim Howards postgame comments - true or false?
"messi" determines that Howards comments were as a result of the crowd being 90% Mexican - true or false?
I call him out for pulling numbers out his ass...it then emerges that he did not in fact do that, instead he quoted Bill Plaschke (The Village Idiot, seriously, google it) who theorized in great detail that it seemed to him that there were 80,000 Mexicans in the stands based on the following research:
"Hmmm....Sure are a lot of Mexicans in here"
Then you jump in with the gem that even though the statistic is clearly not correct, the thought is close enough,
AKA The Senator John Kyl Defense: "My statement [that planned parenthood is 90% abortions] was not meant to be factual"
Remind me how this is derailing the thread
So you disagree that there were more mexican fans than USA fans?
You never called anyone out for pulling numbers out of anyones ass. You just said that Barca players are cowards. Instead of beating around the bush and bringing up irrelevant things why don't you just get to the point, quote where you think someone was wrong and tell them why.
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No, he disagrees that the statistic that the fans were 90% Mexican was indeed "close enough" to be used in such a discussion.Lionel Messi wrote:
sigh.
So you disagree that there were more mexican fans than USA fans?
You never called anyone out for pulling numbers out of anyones ass. You just said that Barca players are cowards. Instead of beating around the bush and bringing up irrelevant things why don't you just get to the point, quote where you think someone was wrong and tell them why.
The Barca argument, while fallacious, was meant to illustrate the inherent problems in such logic. The real question is whether you are intentionally ignoring his point or missing it by accident.
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Lionel Messi wrote:So you disagree that there were more mexican fans than USA fans?
I havent seen the numbers but there seemed to be more Mexican fans to me...but that was never the point
Just because there were more mexicans fans doesn't mean you can throw around made-up statistics as fact just because "the thought was there"
lionel messi wrote:You never called anyone out for pulling numbers out of anyones ass. You just said that Barca players are cowards. Instead of beating around the bush and bringing up irrelevant things why don't you just get to the point, quote where you think someone was wrong and tell them why.
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bhends wrote:Messi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans.
He says, most certainly not pulling a made-up number out of his own ass.
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I even said it myself, the number is obviously inaccurate. The thought is that there was many more Mexican fans than US fans, so what is the problem here?
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I never said it was close enough, I said it was inaccurate but the thought as in the thought that there was mostly Mexican fans is TRUE.RedOranje wrote:No, he disagrees that the statistic that the fans were 90% Mexican was indeed "close enough" to be used in such a discussion.Lionel Messi wrote:
sigh.
So you disagree that there were more mexican fans than USA fans?
You never called anyone out for pulling numbers out of anyones ass. You just said that Barca players are cowards. Instead of beating around the bush and bringing up irrelevant things why don't you just get to the point, quote where you think someone was wrong and tell them why.
The Barca argument, while fallacious, was meant to illustrate the inherent problems in such logic. The real question is whether you are intentionally ignoring his point or missing it by accident.
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Lionel Messi wrote:I even said it myself, the number is obviously inaccurate. The thought is that there was many more Mexican fans than US fans, so what is the problem here?
You're not perfect.
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Bhends and Red tag-teaming.
Dropping some knowledge in this thread.
Love it.
Dropping some knowledge in this thread.
Love it.
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Lionel Messi wrote:I even said it myself, the number is obviously inaccurate. The thought is that there was many more Mexican fans than US fans, so what is the problem here?
bhends wrote:Just because there were more mexicans fans doesn't mean you can throw around made-up statistics as fact just because "the thought was there"
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Why are you telling me this? I never brought up any statistics.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:I even said it myself, the number is obviously inaccurate. The thought is that there was many more Mexican fans than US fans, so what is the problem here?bhends wrote:Just because there were more mexicans fans doesn't mean you can throw around made-up statistics as fact just because "the thought was there"
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Easy to say huh? Why don't you elaborate?RedOranje wrote:Statistically inaccurate, full of assumptions, fallacious arguments, and generally wrong suggestions, but otherwise a great post, I agree.Lionel Messi wrote:Great postMessi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
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Lionel Messi wrote:Why are you telling me this? I never brought up any statistics.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:I even said it myself, the number is obviously inaccurate. The thought is that there was many more Mexican fans than US fans, so what is the problem here?bhends wrote:Just because there were more mexicans fans doesn't mean you can throw around made-up statistics as fact just because "the thought was there"
Gold Cup Aftermath fury. He's got to get it out somehow.
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Ahh, I seeIzzyC08 wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:Why are you telling me this? I never brought up any statistics.bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:I even said it myself, the number is obviously inaccurate. The thought is that there was many more Mexican fans than US fans, so what is the problem here?bhends wrote:Just because there were more mexicans fans doesn't mean you can throw around made-up statistics as fact just because "the thought was there"
Gold Cup Aftermath fury. He's got to get it out somehow.
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