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Tim Howard lashes out
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/soccer/news/story?id=6705473
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- Goalkeeper Tim Howard was still upset after the U.S. lost the Gold Cup final, but his strongest reaction had nothing to do with the four goals Mexico slotted in his net.
After El Tri's 4-2 victory at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, Calif., Howard blasted CONCACAF officials for conducting the title ceremony in Spanish.
"CONCACAF should be ashamed of themselves," Howard said. "I think it was a [expletive] disgrace that the entire postmatch ceremony was in Spanish. You can bet your ass that if we were in Mexico City, it wouldn't be all in English.
"But that's not why we lost the game. They've got some special players who put us in some bad situations."
In addition to crediting Mexico's talented playmakers for the victory, Howard was complimentary about the largely pro-Mexico crowd.
"It was a good crowd today," Howard said. "They were up for it, doing the wave, it was what we expected. We know it's going to be like this."
Nonetheless, Howard seemed visibly upset when officials tried to line the U.S. up for a team photo after the ceremony was conducted in Spanish.
Asked about it afterward, he said: "It never ceases to amaze me all that stuff."
Ben Spencer, a spokesman for CONCACAF, declined to comment about the situation.
After Michael Bradley and Landon Donovan scored to help the United States build a 2-0 lead, Mexico rallied behind two goals from Pablo Barrera to win its second straight Gold Cup title and sixth overall, qualifying El Tri for the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup, a preview of the 2014 World Cup.
"It's a great crowd and it's a great atmosphere," U.S. coach Bob Bradley said. "Obviously, the support that Mexico has on a night like tonight makes it a home game for them. But it's in the Rose Bowl, and we're proud to be here, certainly we have some fans, but the overwhelming amount of support [for Mexico] is something that we expected and as a team we understand it's part of what we've got to deal with tonight.
"It still makes for a great atmosphere."
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i didnt think it was a disgrace while watching it...
but i did find it very peculiar that the whole ceremony was done in spanish
but i did find it very peculiar that the whole ceremony was done in spanish
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Boo hoo they didn't say it in English. Whatever there are bigger things to worry about.
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I am sure Spain would have felt perfectly happy if the World Cup final celebration was done entirely in Dutch.
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Too bad they'ree not as many Americans in Mexico as there are Mexicans in America.
Empty arguments, guys. I doubt he'd care if U.S had held on to the lead.
Empty arguments, guys. I doubt he'd care if U.S had held on to the lead.
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Maybe instead of complaining about that, he should worry about his own terrible performance and the terrible performance of the backline in front of him.
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I belive he has every right to be butthurtLionel Messi wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/soccer/news/story?id=6705473
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Goalkeeper Tim Howard was still upset after the U.S. lost the Gold Cup final, but his strongest reaction had nothing to do with the four goals Mexico slotted in his net.
After El Tri's 4-2 victory at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, Calif., Howard blasted CONCACAF officials for conducting the title ceremony in Spanish.
"CONCACAF should be ashamed of themselves," Howard said. "I think it was a [expletive] disgrace that the entire postmatch ceremony was in Spanish. You can bet your ass that if we were in Mexico City, it wouldn't be all in English.
"But that's not why we lost the game. They've got some special players who put us in some bad situations."
In addition to crediting Mexico's talented playmakers for the victory, Howard was complimentary about the largely pro-Mexico crowd.
"It was a good crowd today," Howard said. "They were up for it, doing the wave, it was what we expected. We know it's going to be like this."
Nonetheless, Howard seemed visibly upset when officials tried to line the U.S. up for a team photo after the ceremony was conducted in Spanish.
Asked about it afterward, he said: "It never ceases to amaze me all that stuff."
Ben Spencer, a spokesman for CONCACAF, declined to comment about the situation.
After Michael Bradley and Landon Donovan scored to help the United States build a 2-0 lead, Mexico rallied behind two goals from Pablo Barrera to win its second straight Gold Cup title and sixth overall, qualifying El Tri for the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup, a preview of the 2014 World Cup.
"It's a great crowd and it's a great atmosphere," U.S. coach Bob Bradley said. "Obviously, the support that Mexico has on a night like tonight makes it a home game for them. But it's in the Rose Bowl, and we're proud to be here, certainly we have some fans, but the overwhelming amount of support [for Mexico] is something that we expected and as a team we understand it's part of what we've got to deal with tonight.
"It still makes for a great atmosphere."
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how would you feel if your language wasnt spoken at a final including you.....
Howard has every ****ing right to be pissed....
this was not butthurt
Howard has every ****ing right to be pissed....
this was not butthurt
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He's lying or didn't even listen.
The post-game ceremony WAS in fact bi-lingual!
The post-game ceremony WAS in fact bi-lingual!
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He should be complaining about the horrible defensive performance Team USA put up, not worried about the Spanish speaking team got there awards in Spanish
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I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
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Messi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans.
He says, most certainly not pulling a made-up number out of his own ass.
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Well generally mexicans are orders of magnitude more crazy about football than americans. Therefore I can't say it wasn't expected.
If the ceremony was ONLY in Spanish then we would have a problem. However, if it was bilingual then he is complaining about nothing
If the ceremony was ONLY in Spanish then we would have a problem. However, if it was bilingual then he is complaining about nothing
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I imagines most americans who watch football know spanish anyway.
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Great postMessi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
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Statistically inaccurate, full of assumptions, fallacious arguments, and generally wrong suggestions, but otherwise a great post, I agree.Lionel Messi wrote:Great postMessi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
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I thought it was accurate, most of the fans were rooting for Mexico, you could even hear boos during the US national anthem ffs. Obviously the statistic isn't correct but the thought is there.RedOranje wrote:Statistically inaccurate, full of assumptions, fallacious arguments, and generally wrong suggestions, but otherwise a great post, I agree.Lionel Messi wrote:Great postMessi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
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Ah yes, you agree so it must be accurate enough to count.
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count for what? I can't agree with someone?RedOranje wrote:Ah yes, you agree so it must be accurate enough to count.
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Lionel Messi wrote:I thought it was accurate, most of the fans were rooting for Mexico, you could even hear boos during the US national anthem ffs. Obviously the statistic isn't correct but the thought is there.
90% of Barca players are cowards
Obviously the statistic isn't correct but the thought is there
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bhends wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:I thought it was accurate, most of the fans were rooting for Mexico, you could even hear boos during the US national anthem ffs. Obviously the statistic isn't correct but the thought is there.
90% on Barca players are cowards
Obviously the statistic isn't correct but the thought is there
Completely different, it was easy to see that most of the stadium was filled with Mexico fans.
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/06/26/2548470/why-tim-howards-foul-mouthed-rant-after-gold-cup-defeat-by
The article sheds a light on the situation.
Lets look at facts:
Did Mexico have the majority of supporters, yes.
Did the Mexican fans constantly boo the US players, yes.
Did the Mexican fans boo the US national anthem, yes.
Was the victory ceremony almost entirely in Spanish, yes.
Did the best team win, yes.
Was the conduct of the CONACAF in dealing with the tournament disgraceful, yes.
Thus Tim has every right to be furious, because this ludicrous situation warrants fury against the MExican fans, the American fans (or lack thereof), the CONACAF, and the US players.
The article sheds a light on the situation.
Lets look at facts:
Did Mexico have the majority of supporters, yes.
Did the Mexican fans constantly boo the US players, yes.
Did the Mexican fans boo the US national anthem, yes.
Was the victory ceremony almost entirely in Spanish, yes.
Did the best team win, yes.
Was the conduct of the CONACAF in dealing with the tournament disgraceful, yes.
Thus Tim has every right to be furious, because this ludicrous situation warrants fury against the MExican fans, the American fans (or lack thereof), the CONACAF, and the US players.
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Lionel Messi wrote:Completely different, it was easy to see that most of the stadium was filled with Mexico fans.
Its easy to see that many Barca players are cowards
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@Oranjes
The statistic is 86% were mexican fans so relax it's not a problem. 80k out of the 93k.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
Everything I said came from here. It's all true bro. I was watching it, it didn't bother me much because I was focused on the game. But I would understand why howard was bothered by it.
Hey thanks Messi I try xD,RedOranje wrote:Statistically inaccurate, full of assumptions, fallacious arguments, and generally wrong suggestions, but otherwise a great post, I agree.Lionel Messi wrote:Great postMessi wrote:I would be pissed as shit too, his own fans didn't show up to the game. 90% of the stadium was all mexicans. Mexico had a home game in the US...embarrassing
The mexican booing every time the US had the ball and during the US national anthem pissed me off and you can tell during and after the match how pissed off US players were...
It's just a game, the best team won. No reason for the mexicans to insult and boo the US.
But idc about that, The US should have sealed the 2-0.
@Oranjes
The statistic is 86% were mexican fans so relax it's not a problem. 80k out of the 93k.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
Everything I said came from here. It's all true bro. I was watching it, it didn't bother me much because I was focused on the game. But I would understand why howard was bothered by it.
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