To be honest, it's provoking; Milan could very well claim that they have 19 league title by saying; "we had a disallowed goal against Juve, that adds two points to us and removes one from Juve, we had a disallowed goal against Catania, that puts us 2 points up and that means we are leading Serie A currently" yet they don't, it's that respect to the officials and decision made by them that Juve lack and it'll be costly in the near future no matter how good Juve becomes.

Mr. Moratti wrote:

im not sure whats more humiliating, this kit or having 3 stars on their usual kit.

Potential wrote:To be honest, it's provoking; Milan could very well claim that they have 19 league title by saying; "we had a disallowed goal against Juve, that adds two points to us and removes one from Juve, we had a disallowed goal against Catania, that puts us 2 points up and that means we are leading Serie A currently" yet they don't, it's that respect to the officials and decision made by them that Juve lack and it'll be costly in the near future no matter how good Juve becomes.

Gosh..

Neutral wrote:

Mr. Moratti wrote:

im not sure whats more humiliating, this kit or having 3 stars on their usual kit.

Sending Pirlo for free to direct rival and seeing him celebrate

Surag wrote:

Potential wrote:To be honest, it's provoking; Milan could very well claim that they have 19 league title by saying; "we had a disallowed goal against Juve, that adds two points to us and removes one from Juve, we had a disallowed goal against Catania, that puts us 2 points up and that means we are leading Serie A currently" yet they don't, it's that respect to the officials and decision made by them that Juve lack and it'll be costly in the near future no matter how good Juve becomes.

Gosh..

Unless you provide a good reason for your I'll claim you're a mental patient.

Dear lord this bickering is pathetic, geez one half are concentrating on everything but there team winning and the other half talk about everything other then there team losing and just congratulatin the winning team.

How old are u people like 12

Potential wrote:To be honest, it's provoking; Milan could very well claim that they have 19 league title by saying; "we had a disallowed goal against Juve, that adds two points to us and removes one from Juve, we had a disallowed goal against Catania, that puts us 2 points up and that means we are leading Serie A currently" yet they don't, it's that respect to the officials and decision made by them that Juve lack and it'll be costly in the near future no matter how good Juve becomes.

Well, not exactly.
Juventus actually won the title 30 times, 30 times on the field as players famously say (including your best player Ibrahimovic)

The courts revoked two, officially, legally, whatever you want to call it.

If Juventus doesn't agree with this ruling, which they clearly don't and are still attempting to fight it in every which way, of course they're not going to recognize the two revoked as legitimate.

Some aren't really understanding, Juventus isn't making up two imaginary titles, they are claiming the ones which were revoked. The ones already won but taken by the courts.

But this thread never had good intentions anyways :vagi:

Unless you provide a good reason for your I'll claim you're a mental patient.

Those two stripped championships which we won ,was won on the pitch ,it was the end result of those two seasons regardless of the scandalous past behind it and Agnelli has always stressed upon the issue of getting the revoked Scudetti back no matter how many court procedures we have to undergo.They're still fighting you know and there's nothing wrong in that.I just dont want to debate on the Calciopoli past again as it is pointless and would cause unecessary tension.

And here you are comparing a team who has actually won those Championships at the end of the day to a team that could have won a Championship had they got few calls favor them(even though i dont agree with),its all hypothetical..

I guess Chelsea would've won CL had they had ref calls not go against them,Barca would've won CL had that Milito offside goal not been counted ?So all in all your post doesnt make sense at all..

Surag wrote:

Unless you provide a good reason for your I'll claim you're a mental patient.

Those two stripped championships which we won ,was won on the pitch ,it was the end result of those two seasons regardless of the scandalous past behind it and Agnelli has always stressed upon the issue of getting the revoked Scudetti back no matter how many court procedures we have to undergo.They're still fighting you know and there's nothing wrong in that.I just dont want to debate on the Calciopoli past again as it is pointless and would cause unecessary tension.

And here you are comparing a team who has actually won those Championships at the end of the day to a team that could have won a Championship had they got few calls favor them(even though i dont agree with),its all hypothetical..

I guess Chelsea would've won CL had they had ref calls not go against them,Barca would've won CL had that Milito offside goal not been counted ?So all in all your post doesnt make sense at all..

Exactly, teams don't go claim stuff like if it had happened differently, we would have won and claim to have more trophies than they already do! all teams accept referee decisions so why would a court decision be any different?

Because football is played on the pitch

Pathetic from Juve. Absolute crap.

LOL. I'm joking. But I don't think they should do it. Italian football are trying to forget about Calciopoli, lets not continue bickering over it.

Luca wrote:Because football is played on the pitch

Can Milan claim that in 06 they didn't cheat and Juve did, therefore by the account of Juve relegated means that Milan finished first place and deserve a 19 Scudetto?

get back on topic

Potential wrote:

Luca wrote:Because football is played on the pitch

Can Milan claim that in 06 they didn't cheat and Juve did, therefore by the account of Juve relegated means that Milan finished first place and deserve a 19 Scudetto?

Milan was found guilty in calciopoli too, they only escaped relegation because of appeal.

So, no.

I do acknowledge Juve 05 and 06 Scudetto trophies, however no matter how many people acknowledge it, officially you have 28, and unless you appeal and actually win, OFFICIALLY you'll still have 28 and that what matters, anybody can claim trophies and put as many stars on their shirt, however doing this will always be a provocation no matter how you justify it. Am I against Juventus putting another star on their shirt; no they are free to put one and release it to the public however playing with them is simply unacceptable.

I don't know, it could be incentive to answer an appeal for the two scudetti to be returned. It could have that effect.

It's really difficult for me to say that they should stay with two stars because I believe in the third. I guess we'll just wait and see.

Adit wrote:Is it compulsory ?

If it is an official thing, will the Italian federation allow Juve to put 3 stars on their jersey ?

Only the first star is official

Neutral wrote:complete lack of respect to inter if they put 3 stars. where do these extra 2 come from? its 28 for juve and thats official. you cant claim another teams titles as your own. the whole tradition of one star for 10 scudettos will be meaningless if they have 3 next season. even these avatars and sigs implying its 30 are embarrassing.

Lol... the irony

zarola wrote:if I were a juve fan, I'd be embarrassed to have a 3rd star knowing where 1/5th of the star came from, seems just like a constant reminder.

Yeah, a reminder to everybody of how many titles we actually won

Cookie Monster wrote:
It would actually be weird if they didn't claim the third star since they've been adamant that calciopoli was a lie and that they won those scudetti fairly. It would be somewhat of a defeat if they didn't put on the third star, as if they've finally conceded that those two scudetti weren't legitimate.

Yes

Se7en wrote:

I don't know much about the case at all so there is not much point in debating it, but I'm pretty sure Juve were match fixing.

Anyway, if any other team did it they should have their titles revoked aswell. Also, didn't Moggi get in jail for cheating? Tells alot.

You've 28 titles. It's not 30 so it's pretty farce to put a 3rd star and go around like you've 2 imaginary titles.

Then SHUT THE F UP!

Potential wrote:To be honest, it's provoking; Milan could very well claim that they have 19 league title by saying; "we had a disallowed goal against Juve, that adds two points to us and removes one from Juve, we had a disallowed goal against Catania, that puts us 2 points up and that means we are leading Serie A currently" yet they don't, it's that respect to the officials and decision made by them that Juve lack and it'll be costly in the near future no matter how good Juve becomes.

Uhm... yeah, I lost you at Catania

Potential wrote:I do acknowledge Juve 05 and 06 Scudetto trophies, however no matter how many people acknowledge it, officially you have 28, and unless you appeal and actually win, OFFICIALLY you'll still have 28 and that what matters, anybody can claim trophies and put as many stars on their shirt, however doing this will always be a provocation no matter how you justify it. Am I against Juventus putting another star on their shirt; no they are free to put one and release it to the public however playing with them is simply unacceptable.

That too. Excellent


Let's put it this way: Juventus fans celebrated a league title 30 times, Inter fans 17 times. The rest is just ink on paper






... and three stars on our jersey, lol

Se7en wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Se7en wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Neutral wrote:complete lack of respect to inter if they put 3 stars. where do these extra 2 come from? its 28 for juve and thats official. you cant claim another teams titles as your own. the whole tradition of one star for 10 scudettos will be meaningless if they have 3 next season.

tell me where there is sure proof Juve cheated and we'll accept its 28 and pls don't bring up those bull crap stories of Moggi calls, Inter's Moratti made calls too so did Berlusconi, or we can deduct 2 Scudetti from each of them?

look who cares if anyone else did it too, the main point is you cheated and were rightfully revoked of 2 league titles which you now claim exists

if juve puts 3 stars it's a farce

The point is the Juventus team did not cheat.

Show me footage of where we cheated.... one of our directors bribed to get the better refs, thats what has been proven. many clubs did this, and juve were the only ones punished this hard. that is why we do not believe in giving inter 2 of our trophies, because the players still earned them on the pitch.

I don't know much about the case at all so there is not much point in debating it, but I'm pretty sure Juve were match fixing.

Anyway, if any other team did it they should have their titles revoked aswell. Also, didn't Moggi get in jail for cheating? Tells alot.

You've 28 titles. It's not 30 so it's pretty farce to put a 3rd star and go around like you've 2 imaginary titles.

I don't know anything about you, but i'm pretty sure you're a serial killer.

Basically, if you don't know about calciopoli, you shouldn't talk about it either way.

As for the post mentioning the ghost goal and the other one at Catania, I can't believe I have to say this again but tally up all of the denied penalties and goals etc for Juventus and about 5 of our draws would be wins. Even your penalty against Inter was a farce.

There is still an ongoing investigation into these scudetti and there is a chance they will be given back. Juventus players have the right to wear 3 stars. And as far as "Provoking Inter" that's hilarious. Inter Milan are the reason Juventus and Milan to a lesser extent suffered for so long. Agnelli, Marotta, the players and the fans could not care less about the feelings Inter have toward a 3rd star.

Potential wrote:I do acknowledge Juve 05 and 06 Scudetto trophies, however no matter how many people acknowledge it, officially you have 28, and unless you appeal and actually win, OFFICIALLY you'll still have 28 and that what matters, anybody can claim trophies and put as many stars on their shirt, however doing this will always be a provocation no matter how you justify it. Am I against Juventus putting another star on their shirt; no they are free to put one and release it to the public however playing with them is simply unacceptable.

The stars are official? Do the FIGC regulate them?

Wiki: "The first team to adopt a star was Juventus, who added one above their badge in 1958 to represent their tenth Serie A title. This was an extension of the existing convention by which the reigning champions are entitled to display the scudetto on their shirts for the following season. The star was later formally adopted by some organisations as a symbol for ten titles."

We started it, we can do what we want with em. What other people do not seem to understand is, we are still in court trying to reclaim the titles.

Would it make sense to say in court "Hey! those are our titles!" and then on the pitch say "We only have 28..."

They are ours, and that is our stance.

all teams accept referee decisions so why would a court decision be any different?

So lets say you were wrongly accused in regard to some incident ,so you accept the court decision as it is ?

And even if an entity is rightfully accused wouldnt there always be a lawyer to defend them ?

This is just indicating that Juventus are definitely not going to back down and their stance is firm as far as the revoked championships are concerned.Juventus are defending themselves and will continue to do so till the end.

Afterall its just a matter of another star added to the jersey,big deal it would still remain the same if we win a couple more championships Nothing would change.

Not even Inter fans seem get worked up ,i guess the butthurt is strong with some of you Milan fans

We Milan fans are not worked up. We are going to put 7 stars on our shirts.

milan + inter fans saying they arent butthurt after writing us off with ease this season = BIGGEST LIE EVER :lol!:

Im seriously taking it all in, i lurrrve it!

3 stars baby

3 looks very similar to B

all I got to say

I struggle to understand why this thread is still open