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Post by stunt Thu May 03, 2012 5:56 pm

Portugal -> wingers. CR, Nani, Figo, Quaresma, Simao Sabrosa (just mentioning recent players).

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu May 03, 2012 5:57 pm

juventus101 wrote:Im assuming Passarella is from Argentina, but Top 3 is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I think Beckenbauer, Maldini, and Baresi are pretty hard to topple as the Top 3.
In an all-time analysis I would consider Maldini to be a full-back.
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Post by Ganso Thu May 03, 2012 6:29 pm

Ive said this before in the last forums,if i could make a world stating 11 with a nation in each section,Germany-GKs,Brazil-Defenders,Spain-Midfielders and Argentina-Strikers
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Post by Lord Hades Thu May 03, 2012 7:23 pm

spain - midfielders obviously ,also goal keepers..

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Post by VivaStPauli Thu May 03, 2012 7:26 pm

Are we counting wingers and attacking mids?

And is Casillas plural? :X
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Thu May 03, 2012 7:31 pm

United States- Keepers . Sure they are not wc but I think they are in that bracket right below.
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Post by Le Samourai Thu May 03, 2012 7:33 pm

He's talking about: Casillas,Reina,Valdes,Guaita,Diego Lopez, Iraoziz,Javi Varas, etc.

Dunno how these matchup to Germany since I don't follow German keepers but it's good depth.
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Post by Lord Hades Thu May 03, 2012 7:38 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Are we counting wingers and attacking mids?

And is Casillas plural? :X


well spain have produced a plethora of midfielders.. not so many dms tbf, but cms, ams and players who can play on the wings..

and yeah imo spain has produced a lot of good goal keepers in recent years.. basically le sam's list
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Post by Milan31 Thu May 03, 2012 7:47 pm

GK - Germany
Fullback - Brazil
CB's - Italia
Midfield - Spain/Germany
Forwards - Argentina
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Post by rwo power Thu May 03, 2012 7:48 pm

Le Samourai wrote:He's talking about: Casillas,Reina,Valdes,Guaita,Diego Lopez, Iraoziz,Javi Varas, etc.

Dunno how these matchup to Germany since I don't follow German keepers but it's good depth.
The German ones are pretty impressive, too: Neuer, ter Stegen, Zieler, Weidenfeller, Leno, Ulreich, Wiese, Trapp, Rensing etc., and half of them are <23 still.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu May 03, 2012 8:26 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Are we counting wingers and attacking mids?

And is Casillas plural? :X

Besides Neuer, who do Germany have right now that can match Guaita, Valdes, Reina and De Gea?
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Post by Jack Daniels Thu May 03, 2012 8:31 pm

1 thing is for sure is that almost all players that come from holland can volley the ball lmao
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu May 03, 2012 8:35 pm

GK - Spain

Defense- France/Brazil

Mid- Spain

FWD- Argentina
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Post by the xcx Thu May 03, 2012 8:39 pm

GK- Spain/Italy/Germany
CB-England/Italy
FB-Brazil/Holland
CM-Spain/Germany/Italy
SM-Germany/England
DM-France
AM-Spain/Holland
CF-Portugal/Argentine/France
WF-Argentine/Portugal


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Post by VivaStPauli Thu May 03, 2012 8:39 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Besides Neuer, who do Germany have right now that can match Guaita, Valdes, Reina and De Gea?

ter Stegen, Wiese, Weidenfeller, Adler, Ulreich, Leno, and Zieler are probably superior, though Wiese and Weidenfeller are both over 30 by now, so not sure if they count as "currently produced", but then there's other GKs like Rensing, Sippel, Kraft, who I'd throw in as "can match".

Then again "superior" makes me sound smug and how do we really measure that? Let's just say they all can "match" those four and save ourselves the slugfest, since I wouldn't know how to back up my claims of superiority except by urging people to "have a look". Wink

Edit: Forgot Neuer. But I guess you heard of him.
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Post by MJ Thu May 03, 2012 8:46 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Are we counting wingers and attacking mids?

And is Casillas plural? :X

Besides Neuer, who do Germany have right now that can match Guaita, Valdes, Reina and De Gea?

Tim Wiese, Weidenfeller, Rene Adler.

Those three are easily better than De Gea. Valdes and Reina are in pretty bad form at the moment.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu May 03, 2012 9:03 pm

How is Valdes in bad form atm?
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu May 03, 2012 9:21 pm

Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu May 03, 2012 9:23 pm

MJGunner wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Are we counting wingers and attacking mids?

And is Casillas plural? :X

Besides Neuer, who do Germany have right now that can match Guaita, Valdes, Reina and De Gea?

Tim Wiese, Weidenfeller, Rene Adler.

Those three are easily better than De Gea. Valdes and Reina are in pretty bad form at the moment.

Bernd Leno and terStegen > Weidenfeller,Adler and Wiese

you have to watch those if you don't know them, not far behind Neuer level on their current form
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Post by guest7 Thu May 03, 2012 9:24 pm

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one

Spain: Silva, Cesc, Iniesta, Mata, Xavi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, Xabi Alonso Razz
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Post by the xcx Thu May 03, 2012 9:25 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:How is Valdes in bad form atm?
Vickys recent games havent been up the par has it? Poor performances in late of the season. Btw why did Pinto play yesterday instead of Valdez?
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu May 03, 2012 9:26 pm

Se7en wrote:
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one

Spain: Silva, Cesc, Iniesta, Mata, Xavi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, Xabi Alonso Razz

good quality, but germany have a lot more of these Very Happy
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Post by Albiceleste Thu May 03, 2012 9:26 pm

Se7en wrote:
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one

Spain: Silva, Cesc, Iniesta, Mata, Xavi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, Xabi Alonso Razz
Thumbs up World class players > talented players

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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu May 03, 2012 9:32 pm

Albiceleste wrote:
Se7en wrote:
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one

Spain: Silva, Cesc, Iniesta, Mata, Xavi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, Xabi Alonso Razz
Thumbs up World class players > talented players

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Podolski just talented hmm
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Post by Ganso Thu May 03, 2012 9:37 pm

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:
Se7en wrote:
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one

Spain: Silva, Cesc, Iniesta, Mata, Xavi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, Xabi Alonso Razz
Thumbs up World class players > talented players

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Podolski just talented hmm
world class players (imo)
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu May 03, 2012 9:40 pm

Ganso wrote:
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:
Se7en wrote:
BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Germany at the moment, mids...imo better than any other nation currently:

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Sven Bender,Lars Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Holtby,Draxler,Schürle,Gündogan,Podolski,Marin,Merkel,Großkreutz,Rolfes

by far number one

Spain: Silva, Cesc, Iniesta, Mata, Xavi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, Xabi Alonso Razz
Thumbs up World class players > talented players

Özil,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Bender,Götze,Reus,Müller,Kroos,Podolski just talented hmm
world class players (imo)

after the Euros the hype on some others will start Wink just like with Özil after WC
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