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Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
Known effects from HGH:
From Wikipedia, regarding it being banned:
What roles HGH has on the body:
What effect does this increase in HGH have on the body:
Alot of the effects you get from HGH are Messi's main strenghts. Can you consider Messi a legend of the game after taking HGH?
From Wikipedia, regarding it being banned:
n its role as an anabolic agent, HGH has been abused by competitors in sports since the 1970s, and it has been banned by the IOC and NCAA. Traditional urine analysis could not detect doping with HGH, so the ban was unenforceable until the early 2000s when blood tests that could distinguish between natural and artificial HGH were starting to be developed. Blood tests conducted by WADA at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, Greece targeted primarily HGH.[2] This use for the drug is not approved by the FDA.
What roles HGH has on the body:
- Conversion of body fat to muscle mass
- Growth of all tissues
- Energy level
- Tissue repair
- Whole body healing
- Cell replacement
- Bone strength
- Brain function
- Sexual function
- Organ health and integrity
- Enzyme production
- Integrity of hair, nails, skin and vital organs
What effect does this increase in HGH have on the body:
- 8.8% increase in muscle mass on average after six months, without exercise
- 14.4% loss of fat on average after six months, without dieting
- Higher energy levels
- Enhanced sexual performance
- Regrowth of heart, liver, spleen, kidneys and other organs that shrink with age
- Greater cardiac output
- Superior immune function
- Increased exercise performance
- Better kidney function
- Lowered blood pressure
- Improved cholesterol profile, with higher HDL and lower LDL
- Stronger bones
- Faster wound healing
- Younger, tighter, thicker skin
- Hair regrowth
- Wrinkle removal
- Elimination of cellulite
- Sharper vision
- Mood elevation
- Increased memory retention
- Improved sleep
Alot of the effects you get from HGH are Messi's main strenghts. Can you consider Messi a legend of the game after taking HGH?
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
I consider Maradona and he did blow. I consider Dr. Brian Charles Lara a legend and he once beat his girlfriend (true story) and I consider Messi a (future) legend and he took HGH.
So yeah, I would consider him one...
So yeah, I would consider him one...
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
TBH he could've either been that one midget nobody knows the name of, or he could be Messi. He's still a short f*cker and while some perks might be nice, just remember that he needed f*cking growth hormone to grow to the size of the average thirteen year old.
Give the kid a break. And AFAIK he isn't taking it anymore, so most of the effects should'Ve worn off, besides him growing to only barely laughable size.
Give the kid a break. And AFAIK he isn't taking it anymore, so most of the effects should'Ve worn off, besides him growing to only barely laughable size.
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
Of course he can.
But one day, when they start upbringing footballers using substances like this, a limit must be drawn.
But Messi took it not to play football but because he didnt produce enough HGH himself to grow. Did that also help develop his feet and muscle, yes. HGH is a miraculous thing. On children it has extraordinary effects. And on adults it's a rejuvenator whose only bad effects are heart issues and possible development of cancer.
But one day, when they start upbringing footballers using substances like this, a limit must be drawn.
But Messi took it not to play football but because he didnt produce enough HGH himself to grow. Did that also help develop his feet and muscle, yes. HGH is a miraculous thing. On children it has extraordinary effects. And on adults it's a rejuvenator whose only bad effects are heart issues and possible development of cancer.
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
Bounanotte could use some is all I can say.
Anyway it's legal apparently so whatever.
Anyway it's legal apparently so whatever.
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
if i understand correctly, then HGH is a naturally occurring hormone. meaning that everyone has HGH hormones in their body. now messi had a deficiency of HGH as a child, so when doctors decided to put him on HGH (something that would have been necessary even if he never played football) weren't they merely bringing his HGH levels up to that of a normal human?
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May I remind the OP Maradona did blow. BLOW!!!! And yet most of us consider him a legend without much thought put into it. Growth hormones isn't illegal in football and I'm sure he stopped using it now.
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
These are some of the effects he has gotten from HGH that has made him a better footballer:
Saying HGH hasn't made him a better football is a lie IMO. All of these effects make you a much better player.
Bone strength
Brain function
Tissue repair
Whole body healing
Sharper vision
Increased exercise performance
Increased memory retention
Saying HGH hasn't made him a better football is a lie IMO. All of these effects make you a much better player.
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Se7en wrote:These are some of the effects he has gotten from HGH that has made him a better footballer:Bone strength
Brain function
Tissue repair
Whole body healing
Sharper vision
Increased exercise performance
Increased memory retention
Saying HGH hasn't made him a better football is a lie IMO. All of these effects make you a much better player.
you're assuming that by taking HGH his biological capacities have surpassed that of a normal human. is there evidence to support this? or were his HGH levels brought up to that of a normal human (and thus his biological capacities are on par with what that of any other elite athlete)?
remember he took them because he had a deficiency of HGH in his body. this isn't barry bonds and balco we're talking about here.
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everest1 wrote:Se7en wrote:These are some of the effects he has gotten from HGH that has made him a better footballer:Bone strength
Brain function
Tissue repair
Whole body healing
Sharper vision
Increased exercise performance
Increased memory retention
Saying HGH hasn't made him a better football is a lie IMO. All of these effects make you a much better player.
you're assuming that by taking HGH his biological capacities have surpassed that of a normal human. is there evidence to support this? or were his HGH levels brought up to that of a normal human (and thus his biological capacities are on par with what that of any other elite athlete)?
remember he took them because he had a deficiency of HGH in his body. this isn't barry bonds and balco we're talking about here.
Yes, it's different from someone who grows hormones naturally. It also has alot of side effects, but many of it's functions and side effects are still unknown
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Messi had started taking HGH from 14, i think. At 18 and 19, he suffered from consistent injuries. So, your point is not quite valid.
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that still doesnt answer the question of whether or not messi's HGH levels were merely brought up to that of a normal human. i dont think you argument can logically proceed without first establishing this point.Se7en wrote:everest1 wrote:Se7en wrote:These are some of the effects he has gotten from HGH that has made him a better footballer:Bone strength
Brain function
Tissue repair
Whole body healing
Sharper vision
Increased exercise performance
Increased memory retention
Saying HGH hasn't made him a better football is a lie IMO. All of these effects make you a much better player.
you're assuming that by taking HGH his biological capacities have surpassed that of a normal human. is there evidence to support this? or were his HGH levels brought up to that of a normal human (and thus his biological capacities are on par with what that of any other elite athlete)?
remember he took them because he had a deficiency of HGH in his body. this isn't barry bonds and balco we're talking about here.
Yes, it's different from someone who grows hormones naturally. It also has alot of side effects, but many of it's functions and side effects are still unknown
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kiranr wrote:Messi had started taking HGH from 14, i think. At 18 and 19, he suffered from consistent injuries. So, your point is not quite valid.
At the same time, it was 1 bad year compared to the rest of his career where he has been mauled and suffered from the worst rugby tackles yet no injuries.
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So no, other than wiki you have no sources?
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The Franchise wrote:So no, other than wiki you have no sources?
You're free to prove these sources wrong.
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
Se7en wrote:
What roles HGH has on the body:
-Conversion of body fat to muscle mass
Can you turn fat into muscle?
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
Gotta love wikipedia doctors.
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Se7en wrote:The Franchise wrote:So no, other than wiki you have no sources?
You're free to prove these sources wrong.
No, the onus is on you to prove them right. Wiki is not a source, anyone can write it lol
If this was in academics, you wouldnt even get a F lol
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Brady2Moss wrote:Se7en wrote:
What roles HGH has on the body:
-Conversion of body fat to muscle mass
Can you turn fat into muscle?
thats the only way you can create muscle lol...
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Brady2Moss wrote:Se7en wrote:
What roles HGH has on the body:
-Conversion of body fat to muscle mass
Can you turn fat into muscle?
Not sure if serious..............
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Brady2Moss wrote:Se7en wrote:
What roles HGH has on the body:
-Conversion of body fat to muscle mass
Can you turn fat into muscle?
Would solve my diet problem.
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Re: Can Messi be considired a legend after taking HGH?
good grief...
would messi be the player he is today if he didn't get hgh treatment? no, because he'd look like tyrion *bleep* lannister
receiving a hormone treatment to get your hormone levels to the same level of that of an average person (barely, obviously) does not make you a superhuman and/or doper, people need to wrap their tiny little heads around that
would messi be the player he is today if he didn't get hgh treatment? no, because he'd look like tyrion *bleep* lannister
receiving a hormone treatment to get your hormone levels to the same level of that of an average person (barely, obviously) does not make you a superhuman and/or doper, people need to wrap their tiny little heads around that
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