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Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by Guest Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:48 pm
In his twitter interview, he was asked:
Ronaldo or Messi?
Lucas: If you mean Cristiano and not the brazilian striker then my answer is Messi.
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Ronaldo or Messi?
Lucas: If you mean Cristiano and not the brazilian striker then my answer is Messi.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by paperbackwriter Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:04 pm
Schweini wrote:In his twitter interview, he was asked:
Ronaldo or Messi?
Lucas: If you mean Cristiano and not the brazilian striker then my answer is Messi.
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@LFC @prc1807 I am sorry but i am already married and to have 2 wives would be very expensive hahahahahahhaahha
Is there anybody who doesn't agree with him these days? R9 > Messi thou, he's right on point there.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by aford92 Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:14 pm
Legend Lucas! Always said he was the best DM in the league.
R9 FTW!
R9 FTW!
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by Arquitecto Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:21 pm
paperbackwriter wrote:Schweini wrote:In his twitter interview, he was asked:
Ronaldo or Messi?
Lucas: If you mean Cristiano and not the brazilian striker then my answer is Messi.
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@lucasleiva87 @prc1807 will you marry me? #tweetlucas
Lucas Leiva @LucasLeiva87
@LFC @prc1807 I am sorry but i am already married and to have 2 wives would be very expensive hahahahahahhaahha
This is funny.
Let me begin by asking, how in the world is R9 better than Messi?
Is there anybody who doesn't agree with him these days? R9 > Messi thou, he's right on point there.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by the xcx Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:34 pm
Arquitecto wrote:paperbackwriter wrote:Schweini wrote:In his twitter interview, he was asked:
Ronaldo or Messi?
Lucas: If you mean Cristiano and not the brazilian striker then my answer is Messi.
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@LFC @prc1807 I am sorry but i am already married and to have 2 wives would be very expensive hahahahahahhaahha
This is funny.
Let me begin by asking, how in the world is R9 better than Messi?
Is there anybody who doesn't agree with him these days? R9 > Messi thou, he's right on point there.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by Baraa Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:44 pm
Is there really anyone who believes that messi is better than R9? 
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by BarrileteCosmico Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:49 pm
Quite a few people, actually. He is more consistent and has won more at the highest stage - Ronaldo never lifted a CL, Messi is competing for his 4th right now.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by kiranr Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:51 pm
Yeah i do, Messi is better than R9 ever was.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by paperbackwriter Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:01 pm
You can make exactly the same argument to why R9 don't have a CL as to why Messi don't have and probably never will have a WC gold medal. While Ronaldo have 2 gold and 1 silver.
He never played in a great club team. Put prime 1996-2002 Ronaldo uninjured in the Barcelona of today...
He never played in a great club team. Put prime 1996-2002 Ronaldo uninjured in the Barcelona of today...
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by aford92 Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:02 pm
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Quite a few people, actually. He is more consistent and has won more at the highest stage - Ronaldo never lifted a CL, Messi is competing for his 4th right now.
Ronaldo won 2 World Cups. Messi has never won 1.
WC > UCL.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by kiranr Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:04 pm
paperbackwriter wrote:You can make exactly the same argument to why R9 don't have a CL as to why Messi don't have and probably never will have a WC gold medal. While Ronaldo have 2 gold and 1 silver.
He never played in a great club team. Put prime 1996-2002 Ronaldo uninjured in the Barcelona of today...
He would actually not perform as well as Messi. Nevertheless, if Ronaldo was put in this Barcelona team he would be better than he ever was, but still not as good as Messi.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by aford92 Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:09 pm
kiranr wrote:paperbackwriter wrote:You can make exactly the same argument to why R9 don't have a CL as to why Messi don't have and probably never will have a WC gold medal. While Ronaldo have 2 gold and 1 silver.
He never played in a great club team. Put prime 1996-2002 Ronaldo uninjured in the Barcelona of today...
He would actually not perform as well as Messi. Nevertheless, if Ronaldo was put in this Barcelona team he would be better than he ever was, but still not as good as Messi.
Uninjured R9 in todays Barca team would be better than Messi IMO. Better finisher, more pace, stronger, better in the air.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by paperbackwriter Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:11 pm
Heck I don't think Messi have had a better season in Barca yet than R9 had when he was 20 in 1996-97. That Barca team, albeit having alot of great names, was not even close to the Barca of today.
But I guess most people here wasn't old enough to even see the top part of Ronaldos career live.
Just the fact that he was out injured for 3 years and then made a comeback for the 2002 WC and steamrolled the whole competition.
But I guess most people here wasn't old enough to even see the top part of Ronaldos career live.
Just the fact that he was out injured for 3 years and then made a comeback for the 2002 WC and steamrolled the whole competition.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by jibers Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:12 pm
Sigh. Messi has surpassed R9. He is a better goal scorer, better dribbler and is more decisive than R9 ever was in his whole career. R9 had more talent but his peak passed way too soon.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by kiranr Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:12 pm
aford92 wrote:
Uninjured R9 in todays Barca team would be better than Messi IMO. Better finisher, more pace, stronger, better in the air.
I think Messi is a better finisher. Pace and strength would only matter if Messi was not as agile. Messi' agility more than makes up for what he lacks in pace.
As far as i am concerned, Messi contributes a lot to this Barcelona more than Ronaldo could ever do. That is the reason i say Messi is better than him.
But, to each, his own.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by jibers Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:13 pm
paperbackwriter wrote:Heck I don't think Messi have had a better season in Barca yet than R9 had when he was 20 in 1996-97. That Barca team, albeit having alot of great names, was not even close to the Barca of today.
But I guess most people here wasn't old enough to even see the top part of Ronaldos career live.
Just the fact that he was out injured for 3 years and then made a comeback for the 2002 WC and steamrolled the whole competition.
Ironically Rivaldo was Brazils best player in that WC you speak up. The one time R9 had to shine was 98 and we all know what happened. This arguement is futile. Messi is more consistent nad has achiveed more than R9 could dream of.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by jibers Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:14 pm
aford92 wrote:kiranr wrote:paperbackwriter wrote:You can make exactly the same argument to why R9 don't have a CL as to why Messi don't have and probably never will have a WC gold medal. While Ronaldo have 2 gold and 1 silver.
He never played in a great club team. Put prime 1996-2002 Ronaldo uninjured in the Barcelona of today...
He would actually not perform as well as Messi. Nevertheless, if Ronaldo was put in this Barcelona team he would be better than he ever was, but still not as good as Messi.
Uninjured R9 in todays Barca team would be better than Messi IMO. Better finisher, more pace, stronger, better in the air.
Based on what? In the air? because Barcelona play a lot of long balls. Messi is a better finisher. Messi is a better dribbler and messi plays more decisive passes than R9 ever did.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by paperbackwriter Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:15 pm
kiranr wrote:paperbackwriter wrote:You can make exactly the same argument to why R9 don't have a CL as to why Messi don't have and probably never will have a WC gold medal. While Ronaldo have 2 gold and 1 silver.
He never played in a great club team. Put prime 1996-2002 Ronaldo uninjured in the Barcelona of today...
He would actually not perform as well as Messi. Nevertheless, if Ronaldo was put in this Barcelona team he would be better than he ever was, but still not as good as Messi.
47 goals in 49 games for Barca as a 20 year old. Playing with a team that was so far off the WC+Euros winning team that is catering to Messis needs that it's not even funny.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by kiranr Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:17 pm
paperbackwriter wrote:
47 goals in 49 games for Barca as a 20 year old. Playing with a team that was so far off the WC+Euros winning team that is catering to Messis needs that it's not even funny.
This Barcelona team is not catering to Messi. Messi is catering to it.
People keep saying without Messi, this team would be nothing. And then, they turn around and say Messi is hugely benefited by his team. You can't have it both ways.
As far as i am concerned, Messi's pitch impact is greater than Ronaldo's.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by BarrileteCosmico Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:18 pm
Messi's career is not over yet, though.aford92 wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Quite a few people, actually. He is more consistent and has won more at the highest stage - Ronaldo never lifted a CL, Messi is competing for his 4th right now.
Ronaldo won 2 World Cups. Messi has never won 1.
WC > UCL.
Anyways, to keep the childish argument going...
Messi's 3 Ballon D'Ors > Ronaldo's 2
Messi's 5 league titles > Ronaldo's 2
Messi's 18 club titles > Ronaldo's 14 club titles
On the NT side
Ronaldo's 2 WCs > Messi's 0 WCs
Ronaldo's 2 Copa America's > Messi's 0 Copa Americas
Ronaldo's FIFA confederations cup > Messi's 0
Messi's Olympic Gold > Ronaldo's 0 OG
Anyways it's hard not to reach the conclusion that Messi is wildly more succesful than Ronaldo on a club-basis, at only halfway through his career.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:19 pm
Steamrolled the whole competition? 98 he steamrolled the whole competition.....
In 2002 he was totally different player he hardly destroyed anyone he used his intelligence and movement and predatory instincts.......
Rivaldo was just as key in that tournament as Ronaldo was.
And i dont think anyone argued that Messi's best was better than R9's best just that hes accomplished much more at club level and more consistent
And no one can argue that, everyone knows if Ronaldo tried he could have been better than Pele and no one would have argued it.
What was amazing about Ronaldo that as good as he was i will always look back on his career and think you could have been so much more.
In 2002 he was totally different player he hardly destroyed anyone he used his intelligence and movement and predatory instincts.......
Rivaldo was just as key in that tournament as Ronaldo was.
And i dont think anyone argued that Messi's best was better than R9's best just that hes accomplished much more at club level and more consistent
And no one can argue that, everyone knows if Ronaldo tried he could have been better than Pele and no one would have argued it.
What was amazing about Ronaldo that as good as he was i will always look back on his career and think you could have been so much more.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by aford92 Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:21 pm
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Messi's career is not over yet, though.aford92 wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Quite a few people, actually. He is more consistent and has won more at the highest stage - Ronaldo never lifted a CL, Messi is competing for his 4th right now.
Ronaldo won 2 World Cups. Messi has never won 1.
WC > UCL.
Anyways, to keep the childish argument going...
Messi's 3 Ballon D'Ors > Ronaldo's 2
Messi's 5 league titles > Ronaldo's 2
Messi's 18 club titles > Ronaldo's 14 club titles
On the NT side
Ronaldo's 2 WCs > Messi's 0 WCs
Ronaldo's 2 Copa America's > Messi's 0 Copa Americas
Ronaldo's FIFA confederations cup > Messi's 0
Messi's Olympic Gold > Ronaldo's 0 OG
Anyways it's hard not to reach the conclusion that Messi is wildly more succesful than Ronaldo on a club-basis, at only halfway through his career.
Ronaldo's 2 almost career ending injuries to Messi's 0. Like somebody just said he was injured for ages and then came back and destroyed the World Cup. I don't want to see Messi get injured like that but it would interesting to see how good he would be after such an injury.
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Re: Lucas asked about Ronaldo
by aford92 Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:22 pm
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Steamrolled the whole competition? 98 he steamrolled the whole competition.....
In 2002 he was totally different player he hardly destroyed anyone he used his intelligence and movement and predatory instincts.......
Rivaldo was just as key in that tournament as Ronaldo was.
And i dont think anyone argued that Messi's best was better than R9's best just that hes accomplished much more at club level and more consistent
And no one can argue that, everyone knows if Ronaldo tried he could have been better than Pele and no one would have argued it.
What was amazing about Ronaldo that as good as he was i will always look back on his career and think you could have been so much more.
8 goals in one tournament and both goals in the final isn't destroying?
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