deadrave wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:Barca
Bayern
Milan

Barcelona has proven their dominatiion and their quality!

But why is that Real Madrid fans are the ones doing the shouting?Which teams RM faced? Ajax? Lyon? Vallecano? CSKA? WHICH OF THESE TEAMS Bayern or Milan can't destroy? they win easily Arsenal, City,Napoli and we destroy Basel.RM fans don't be too cocky,the only strong team you faced were Barcelona and you lost EASILY.


1 cup in 4 years and 1 semi final appearance in cpl in like how many years beating Tottenham, CSKA Moscow and you are shouting, if anything you dont deserves to be mention as top 4 club, cos whenever you face a quality team, you get beaten, EASILY

We dont have to face anyone. in fact we dont have to prove anything.

we are 10 points ahead of the so called "best team in the world" in the so called "weak league" which has 2 teams participating in champions league and 3 teams in the last 8 of europa league.

we also have the best coach in the world who also pwned you in a champions league final with inter

who have you faced btw? city? napoli? basel? seriously? what has city done in europe more than lyon? what has napoli done more than ajax?
basel? what team is this?

and dont talk to me about bundesliga cause the 1st team there is the one who finished last in an easy champions league groups stage

as i said before you r not top 3. and you will miss the final in which you will host.

Like we played the final in your own stadium, Barcelona has been really weak this season, playing that stupid formation.

Anyways, soon the world we know Madrid for who they truelly are.

Idrisozet wrote:Barca
Bayern
Milan

Barcelona has proven their dominatiion and their quality!

But why is that Real Madrid fans are the ones doing the shouting?Which teams RM faced? Ajax? Lyon? Vallecano? CSKA? WHICH OF THESE TEAMS Bayern or Milan can't destroy? they win easily Arsenal, City,Napoli and we destroy Basel.RM fans don't be too cocky,the only strong team you faced were Barcelona and you lost EASILY.


1 cup in 4 years and 1 semi final appearance in cpl in like how many years beating Tottenham, CSKA Moscow and you are shouting, if anything you dont deserves to be mention as top 4 club, cos whenever you face a quality team, you get beaten, EASILY

Real Madrid isn't better than Milan ,Milan has Ibrahimovic , but they are better than Bayern because they have Mourinho

Barcelona
Santos
Benfica

Liverpool, Inter, Benfica

Norwich, Atalanta and Osasuna

deadrave wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:Barca
Bayern
Milan

Barcelona has proven their dominatiion and their quality!

But why is that Real Madrid fans are the ones doing the shouting?Which teams RM faced? Ajax? Lyon? Vallecano? CSKA? WHICH OF THESE TEAMS Bayern or Milan can't destroy? they win easily Arsenal, City,Napoli and we destroy Basel.RM fans don't be too cocky,the only strong team you faced were Barcelona and you lost EASILY.


1 cup in 4 years and 1 semi final appearance in cpl in like how many years beating Tottenham, CSKA Moscow and you are shouting, if anything you dont deserves to be mention as top 4 club, cos whenever you face a quality team, you get beaten, EASILY

We dont have to face anyone. in fact we dont have to prove anything.

we are 10 points ahead of the so called "best team in the world" in the so called "weak league" which has 2 teams participating in champions league and 3 teams in the last 8 of europa league.

we also have the best coach in the world who also pwned you in a champions league final with inter

who have you faced btw? city? napoli? basel? seriously? what has city done in europe more than lyon? what has napoli done more than ajax?
basel? what team is this?

and dont talk to me about bundesliga cause the 1st team there is the one who finished last in an easy champions league groups stage

as i said before you r not top 3. and you will miss the final in which you will host.

deadrave wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:Barca
Bayern
Milan

Barcelona has proven their dominatiion and their quality!

But why is that Real Madrid fans are the ones doing the shouting?Which teams RM faced? Ajax? Lyon? Vallecano? CSKA? WHICH OF THESE TEAMS Bayern or Milan can't destroy? they win easily Arsenal, City,Napoli and we destroy Basel.RM fans don't be too cocky,the only strong team you faced were Barcelona and you lost EASILY.


1 cup in 4 years and 1 semi final appearance in cpl in like how many years beating Tottenham, CSKA Moscow and you are shouting, if anything you dont deserves to be mention as top 4 club, cos whenever you face a quality team, you get beaten, EASILY

We dont have to face anyone. in fact we dont have to prove anything.

we are 10 points ahead of the so called "best team in the world" in the so called "weak league" which has 2 teams participating in champions league and 3 teams in the last 8 of europa league.

we also have the best coach in the world who also pwned you in a champions league final with inter

who have you faced btw? city? napoli? basel? seriously? what has city done in europe more than lyon? what has napoli done more than ajax?
basel? what team is this?

and dont talk to me about bundesliga cause the 1st team there is the one who finished last in an easy champions league groups stage

as i said before you r not top 3. and you will miss the final in which you will host.

Umm IMO to be considered part of the best you have to beat the best teams. this year Bayern has escaped the group of death then got Basel (easy enough). The hardest team Madrid have faced so far is Lyon who they lost too in the 2nd round a few year back who Bayern went on to beat 4-0 on aggregate. On their route to the semi finals last year they beat tottenham and finally Lyon again before losing to Barcelona. In the 2010 CL run- a weaker Bayern team came back from the dead against Juventus, Fiorentina and Manchester United all away from home. Not only has the quality of the teams beaten been better but Bayern also made it to the final without spending outrageous amounts of cash.

My top 3:
Barcelona
Bayern
Juventus

umm this is about the current season ^^

Barcelona - Everyone's ''team to beat''. This is by far the best ever Barcelona team and to some the best team ever (but not to me).

Real Madrid - Suspect in defence but our attack is amazing and few teams will ever keep us out for 90 minutes. Even without a midfield and frontline full of world class, young but well-established talent with the likes of Ozil, CR7, Di Maria and Higuain, Mourinho is probably the greatest tactician around and has taken teams with far less talent than this one right to the top.

Bayern Munich - Improved their defence a lot, which was their one BIG problem last year. With a solid defence Bayern are way more dangerous now, especially with Gomez the goal machine and Shweinsteiger controlling the midfield so well. They also have Robben who for me is a special player, special in the sense that if you've got Robben, you've got a chance.

All 3 of these teams are not just incredibly talented and probably have the best personnel, but are led by top class coaches in Guardiola, Mourinho and Heynckes.

AC Milan miss out as I think a lot of their players are either not good enough or of the required mentality and discipline (Ibra, Robinho, Cassano and KPB are certainly lacking the right mentality and discipline) to challenge the above. I hope they prove me wrong against Barca though.

Manchester United have fallen far behind these 3, especially due to the glaring weakness in their midfield. They are also retaining a lot of players who are, for me, of mediocre talent (Welbeck, Anderson, Evans, Young, Fabio+Rafael, ect)

Travis_RM_91 wrote:Barcelona - Everyone's ''team to beat''. This is by far the best ever Barcelona team and to some the best team ever (but not to me).

Real Madrid - Suspect in defence but our attack is amazing and few teams will ever keep us out for 90 minutes. Even without a midfield and frontline full of world class, young but well-established talent with the likes of Ozil, CR7, Di Maria and Higuain, Mourinho is probably the greatest tactician around and has taken teams with far less talent than this one right to the top.

Bayern Munich - Improved their defence a lot, which was their one BIG problem last year. With a solid defence Bayern are way more dangerous now, especially with Gomez the goal machine and Shweinsteiger controlling the midfield so well. They also have Robben who for me is a special player, special in the sense that if you've got Robben, you've got a chance.

All 3 of these teams are not just incredibly talented and probably have the best personnel, but are led by top class coaches in Guardiola, Mourinho and Heynckes.

AC Milan miss out as I think a lot of their players are either not good enough or of the required mentality and discipline (Ibra, Robinho, Cassano and KPB are certainly lacking the right mentality and discipline) to challenge the above. I hope they prove me wrong against Barca though.

Manchester United have fallen far behind these 3, especially due to the glaring weakness in their midfield. They are also retaining a lot of players who are, for me, of mediocre talent (Welbeck, Anderson, Evans, Young, Fabio+Rafael, ect)

All those players have a bad reputation, but Allegri has managed them brilliantly. Only Ibra has really been a problem with his recent incident, although I think it's fair to say that his fantastic play more than compensates for that.

Cassano cannot really be mentioned in this discussion for 2 reasons: 1. He hasn't had a single outburst or serious incident while at Milan, 2. He has been out because of his heart condition for almost the entire season.

Boateng is a transformed player compared to the Portsmouth one, he has become a key player and our team suffers without him.

Robinho is perhaps the only player you've listed that can be fairly criticised- his inconsistency has definitely been a problem for us this season. He's magical one game and anonymous the next.

Forza Rossoneri wrote:

Travis_RM_91 wrote:Barcelona - Everyone's ''team to beat''. This is by far the best ever Barcelona team and to some the best team ever (but not to me).

Real Madrid - Suspect in defence but our attack is amazing and few teams will ever keep us out for 90 minutes. Even without a midfield and frontline full of world class, young but well-established talent with the likes of Ozil, CR7, Di Maria and Higuain, Mourinho is probably the greatest tactician around and has taken teams with far less talent than this one right to the top.

Bayern Munich - Improved their defence a lot, which was their one BIG problem last year. With a solid defence Bayern are way more dangerous now, especially with Gomez the goal machine and Shweinsteiger controlling the midfield so well. They also have Robben who for me is a special player, special in the sense that if you've got Robben, you've got a chance.

All 3 of these teams are not just incredibly talented and probably have the best personnel, but are led by top class coaches in Guardiola, Mourinho and Heynckes.

AC Milan miss out as I think a lot of their players are either not good enough or of the required mentality and discipline (Ibra, Robinho, Cassano and KPB are certainly lacking the right mentality and discipline) to challenge the above. I hope they prove me wrong against Barca though.

Manchester United have fallen far behind these 3, especially due to the glaring weakness in their midfield. They are also retaining a lot of players who are, for me, of mediocre talent (Welbeck, Anderson, Evans, Young, Fabio+Rafael, ect)

All those players have a bad reputation, but Allegri has managed them brilliantly. Only Ibra has really been a problem with his recent incident, although I think it's fair to say that his fantastic play more than compensates for that.

Cassano cannot really be mentioned in this discussion for 2 reasons: 1. He hasn't had a single outburst or serious incident while at Milan, 2. He has been out because of his heart condition for almost the entire season.

Boateng is a transformed player compared to the Portsmouth one, he has become a key player and our team suffers without him.

Robinho is perhaps the only player you've listed that can be fairly criticised- his inconsistency has definitely been a problem for us this season. He's magical one game and anonymous the next.

Cassano was, for a while, without incident at Sampdoria and Madrid, then exploded and ruined everything, I always feel it's a matter of time at Milan too. I bra has been great this season but his ego is huge, but if he can put is CL criticisms to bed with a decisive display against Barca that would be great lol.

ioilersrock448 wrote:

deadrave wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:Barca
Bayern
Milan

Barcelona has proven their dominatiion and their quality!

But why is that Real Madrid fans are the ones doing the shouting?Which teams RM faced? Ajax? Lyon? Vallecano? CSKA? WHICH OF THESE TEAMS Bayern or Milan can't destroy? they win easily Arsenal, City,Napoli and we destroy Basel.RM fans don't be too cocky,the only strong team you faced were Barcelona and you lost EASILY.


1 cup in 4 years and 1 semi final appearance in cpl in like how many years beating Tottenham, CSKA Moscow and you are shouting, if anything you dont deserves to be mention as top 4 club, cos whenever you face a quality team, you get beaten, EASILY

We dont have to face anyone. in fact we dont have to prove anything.

we are 10 points ahead of the so called "best team in the world" in the so called "weak league" which has 2 teams participating in champions league and 3 teams in the last 8 of europa league.

we also have the best coach in the world who also pwned you in a champions league final with inter

who have you faced btw? city? napoli? basel? seriously? what has city done in europe more than lyon? what has napoli done more than ajax?
basel? what team is this?

and dont talk to me about bundesliga cause the 1st team there is the one who finished last in an easy champions league groups stage

as i said before you r not top 3. and you will miss the final in which you will host.

deadrave wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:Barca
Bayern
Milan

Barcelona has proven their dominatiion and their quality!

But why is that Real Madrid fans are the ones doing the shouting?Which teams RM faced? Ajax? Lyon? Vallecano? CSKA? WHICH OF THESE TEAMS Bayern or Milan can't destroy? they win easily Arsenal, City,Napoli and we destroy Basel.RM fans don't be too cocky,the only strong team you faced were Barcelona and you lost EASILY.


1 cup in 4 years and 1 semi final appearance in cpl in like how many years beating Tottenham, CSKA Moscow and you are shouting, if anything you dont deserves to be mention as top 4 club, cos whenever you face a quality team, you get beaten, EASILY

We dont have to face anyone. in fact we dont have to prove anything.

we are 10 points ahead of the so called "best team in the world" in the so called "weak league" which has 2 teams participating in champions league and 3 teams in the last 8 of europa league.

we also have the best coach in the world who also pwned you in a champions league final with inter

who have you faced btw? city? napoli? basel? seriously? what has city done in europe more than lyon? what has napoli done more than ajax?
basel? what team is this?

and dont talk to me about bundesliga cause the 1st team there is the one who finished last in an easy champions league groups stage

as i said before you r not top 3. and you will miss the final in which you will host.

Umm IMO to be considered part of the best you have to beat the best teams. this year Bayern has escaped the group of death then got Basel (easy enough). The hardest team Madrid have faced so far is Lyon who they lost too in the 2nd round a few year back who Bayern went on to beat 4-0 on aggregate. On their route to the semi finals last year they beat tottenham and finally Lyon again before losing to Barcelona. In the 2010 CL run- a weaker Bayern team came back from the dead against Juventus, Fiorentina and Manchester United all away from home. Not only has the quality of the teams beaten been better but Bayern also made it to the final without spending outrageous amounts of cash.

My top 3:
Barcelona
Bayern
Juventus

yeah we r talking about this season.. you mentioned all these years were mourinho wasnt real madrid's coach.

but there is no point in this we just have to wait and see..
the good thing is you have to face us before you face barca if all things go well, so you wont have excuses and say BS like if you faced us you would beat us.
bring it on you will face the la liga winner of 2012