He is good, in the past he has won because he tried to put football principles across, both with liverpool and valencia. he works things out with the football, he doesnt play mind games to supercharged his players emotionally so that they can achieve success.

Obviously, if you tell me that you would prefer having Klopp i would agree, but we are not exactly shopping at walmart here, we cant have anyone we want. So out of the possible managers out there with the pedigree to coach us, i think he has got the football acumen. As a man manager he can ruin things in two weeks, and that plays against him.

Laudrup is easily my top choice, but i dont think we are even looking at him nowadays, which is a great shame because i think we can convince him to take the job.

Laudrup doesn't have enough reputation to be a Madrid manager... and that's what is really needed: You need a guy that has enough cred with the club, the players and the media that he can survive. Laudrup is not there yet. He needs to manager a bonafide league contender somewhere as opposed to doing well with middle of the pack teams. Not an elite-level manager until that happens and Madrid is not the place to experiment.

So it comes down to Rafa, Carlo... and i'll thrown a name in there: Luciano Spalletti. We would be so beautiful to watch

that's another thing that needs to die, appearances, reputation. It's such BS. Coaching is a life experience, it's personal, being a leader of men is not something you learn and some are natural at it. I am pretty certain from what i have observed and read about him that laudrup would commend a lot of respect from his players. he had got it, charisma, it's written all over his beautiful face, and the amount of class and respect from people around him.
League contenders nowadays are mainly big teams with big budget. he deserves a chance at an elite club imo. Even if he was in a bigger club finishing 6th or 5th, people would say it's still not enough.

He may and he may not. Madrid is not a club where something like that should be found out. Besides, there's a whole lot more about being manager at Real Madrid than just football... Laudrup would get crushed at the first crisis i'm afraid. He just doesn't have enough muscle.

There are two ways to become manager a top club like Madrid:
- Manage your way from club to club, always going upwards, until you have enough cred to be given a chance
- Work as a bench coach with a legendary manager, go and get experience as a manager and then get a chance

But in every case, you need to have battled for the podium and Europe at some club as a manger or an assistant manager before coming to Madrid. You have to understand how manage egos, competitions, the ups and downs and the political pressure while getting results.

Laudrup is not it for me. He's way too green. Never managed a top tier club in his life, let alone an elite one. I'll wait for him to break his teeth on another important project or get Swansea to be a lot better than 9th and no Europe at all before i trust him with the Ferrari.

Adit wrote:Bentez's stint at Inter Milan is a poor example. Mou left Inter because he knew that age old squad was finished. He didnt get the financial backing from Moratti . what happened after Benitez left any way? they appointed zillions of managers and all of them failed...the squad simply aint good enough.

He did Ok at Chelsea. They are almost certainly finishing 3rd and that is an improvement over what they were when Rafa took over.Chelsea squad was not his squad, he simply took over a squad at midway and made them finish top 3 ,which is pretty good considering he had no time to build a team.

We were 4 points from 1st and in 2nd when we took over we're now 16 points behind. No idea how this myth started.

He somehow lost the CWC, got knocked out of the FA Cup and people will bring up the Europa League but its a piss poor competition and we've faced no one of real note anyway.

We play with no direction and lack any identity. Shocking manager.

Madrid are an even bigger joke than Chelsea. 25 managers since Fergie was first appointed at United.

No manager lasts at that club, especially no names like Laudrup, Pellegrini and Schuster.

Both(Iker & Mou) can't be together. Someone has to go. Mou is the most likely to go. Money is not an issue for RM(to let Mou go), but La Decima is. Their inquiry @Ancelloti hints the same.

In an ideal situation Mou stay would have been good. But given the circus - everyone needs a break.

I seriously doubt RM will get a coach in near future, who can win La Liga & La Decima with the current mentality. Coach is as good as his Squad and the support system(admin,fans & hell media)

No Respect - No Vision - No Glory.

Gil wrote:Madrid are an even bigger joke than Chelsea. 25 managers since Fergie was first appointed at United.

No manager lasts at that club, especially no names like Laudrup, Pellegrini and Schuster.

During SAF's years:

Man U
13 Premier League Titles
5 FA Cups
2 CLs

Madrid
11 La Liga titles
3 CDRs
3 CLs

Any questions? Thanks for playing. Now let the men talk and go play with the kids.

sportsczy wrote:He may and he may not. Madrid is not a club where something like that should be found out. Besides, there's a whole lot more about being manager at Real Madrid than just football... Laudrup would get crushed at the first crisis i'm afraid. He just doesn't have enough muscle.

There are two ways to become manager a top club like Madrid:
- Manage your way from club to club, always going upwards, until you have enough cred to be given a chance
- Work as a bench coach with a legendary manager, go and get experience as a manager and then get a chance

But in every case, you need to have battled for the podium and Europe at some club as a manger or an assistant manager before coming to Madrid. You have to understand how manage egos, competitions, the ups and downs and the political pressure while getting results.

Laudrup is not it for me. He's way too green. Never managed a top tier club in his life, let alone an elite one. I'll wait for him to break his teeth on another important project or get Swansea to be a lot better than 9th and no Europe at all before i trust him with the Ferrari.

Dont you remember saying that Zidane with a goat coaching staff could manage Madrid? i do.

Remember didnt use to be that way, we used to give their chances to young managers in the past, last and most potent of which VDB

Look im not saying that Laudrup brings instant success, but we have clearly seen that there is more to coaching than resume, otherwise mourinho would have won 3 consecutive trebles.

What Laudrup has as advantage over other young coaches is the fact that he has been an elite player that dominated football in his prime. that's a very big deal. Everything that has to do with the context of winning, he gets it and he can communicate it. I still believe that resume isnt all that. If personality is not going to be a problem, then you have to look at his football acumen, and Laudrup clearly has got it too. Even tactically he showed he could make it.

Gil wrote:

Adit wrote:Bentez's stint at Inter Milan is a poor example. Mou left Inter because he knew that age old squad was finished. He didnt get the financial backing from Moratti . what happened after Benitez left any way? they appointed zillions of managers and all of them failed...the squad simply aint good enough.

He did Ok at Chelsea. They are almost certainly finishing 3rd and that is an improvement over what they were when Rafa took over.Chelsea squad was not his squad, he simply took over a squad at midway and made them finish top 3 ,which is pretty good considering he had no time to build a team.

We were 4 points from 1st and in 2nd when we took over we're now 16 points behind. No idea how this myth started.

He somehow lost the CWC, got knocked out of the FA Cup and people will bring up the Europa League but its a piss poor competition and we've faced no one of real note anyway.

We play with no direction and lack any identity. Shocking manager.

Rafa Benitez wrote:
''So if you analyse all the managers [at Chelsea], how many had a pre-season here? Not me. How many managers have spent massive money here? Not me. How many managers have played in Japan in the middle of the season and have some players injured and some at the African Nations? Only me.''

rafa

Zidane would make a good bench coach. As a manager? If he had a massive bench coach to help him. He has a lot of things Laudrup doesn't have. Namely, he can keep the entire Real Madrid nation (politics, media and pressure) in his back pocket with no problem. Laudrup doesn't have that cred. He has average credentials as a manager, no political equity and no fan equity. Zidane lacks managing experience... but is the god of Madrid at the other 2.

That said, it's too early for Zidane. He just needs to get experience.

Benitez would be a manager we'd be settling for. Laudrup recently signed a new contract so it may not be possible to go for him until next year.

Heynckes/Klopp would be the best choice. Although Klopp I think wants to stay at Dortmund.

sportsczy wrote:Zidane would make a good bench coach. As a manager? If he had a massive bench coach to help him. He has a lot of things Laudrup doesn't have. Namely, he can keep the entire Real Madrid nation (politics, media and pressure) in his back pocket with no problem. Laudrup doesn't have that cred. He has average credentials as a manager, no political equity and no fan equity. Zidane lacks managing experience... but is the god of Madrid at the other 2.

That said, it's too early for Zidane. He just needs to get experience.

And how do you know that Laudrup cant? that man walk with extreme swagger and good looks, i am pretty sure he can handle it all. people in spain as well as the medias have tremendous amount of respect for him, they love the guy; i still remember him wiping the floor with Benitez and carlito last time AS had a fan poll. As for his credentials, i think when you look at the way his team set out to play footy, and how he handled playing the biggest sides in EPL, he is a man that clearly knows what he is doing. And i remember him doing something fantastic in europe with Getafe. If you say that Zidane can do it, then so can Laudrup, and at least laudrup has actually coached, unlike Zizou.

I'm not willing to risk with Laudrup knowing that he hasn't proven he has any of it.... not one part. No top managing credentials; no political cred; no fan cred. He COULD pull it off. But to be a Madrid manager, you need a lot more certainty than that.

http://www.rmcsport.fr/editorial/379150/al-khelaifi-tout-le-monde-reste-au-psg/

Interview with president of PSG today. Interesting part:

What are you going to tell Carlo to convince him to stay?
I don't have to tell him anything since he has one year left on his contract. I'm like the fans and thankful to Carlo. He's a good man and I love him. I think he's the best manager in the world. He's done a great job and I'm very satisfied with him. I never approached this subject with him and he's never told me that he wants to leave.

Thats the end for Carlo to Madrid imo. PSG isnt even willing to negotiate an offer.

i am willing to risk, specially when i think he has those things you talk about. what's the worst that could happen? we lose the league in november and can hardly hack it up against the best teams in europe. uuhhh that's where we are, and we are coached by supposedly the greatest manager in footy

If Carlo says that he is leaving then PSg cant stop him. i hope he does stay tho

I'll add that Madrid frakked up by contacting Carlo's reps before letting PSG know. That basically made PSG take a hard stand.

And btw, this doesn't mean it stops Carlo. Just means that they would need to pay PSG the breakup fee (probably amount of his remaining contract and any gap incurred to hire a new manager if this person is more expensive) to bring him in. He makes 6 million euros next season. I think they reach a settlement for 10 mil if Madrid wants him and he wants to go.

Gil wrote:

Adit wrote:Bentez's stint at Inter Milan is a poor example. Mou left Inter because he knew that age old squad was finished. He didnt get the financial backing from Moratti . what happened after Benitez left any way? they appointed zillions of managers and all of them failed...the squad simply aint good enough.

He did Ok at Chelsea. They are almost certainly finishing 3rd and that is an improvement over what they were when Rafa took over.Chelsea squad was not his squad, he simply took over a squad at midway and made them finish top 3 ,which is pretty good considering he had no time to build a team.

We were 4 points from 1st and in 2nd when we took over we're now 16 points behind. No idea how this myth started.

He somehow lost the CWC, got knocked out of the FA Cup and people will bring up the Europa League but its a piss poor competition and we've faced no one of real note anyway.

We play with no direction and lack any identity. Shocking manager.

You are easily the most deluded member and the biggest clown on GL.

You seriously expected a Chelsea team who finished, 6TH, and I repeat, 6th !! last season to challenge for the title this year after losing their most influential player ? A team whose starting striker was Fernando the clown Torres ? with Hazard and Oscar in their first years in England? You were 7 points above United, but this AMAZING RDM somehow lost that lead and fell 4 points behind all in space of 4 weeks. Stop re-writing history.

Your team has played 70+ games this season, went deep in both domestic competitions (lost FA Cup semi in dubious refereeing circumstances), is on verge of winning a European trophy when THE MESSIAH DI MATTEO embarressed your club in CL this year. You are on target to hit 75 points in PL this season, your highest point tally since Carlo's double-winning team. You are now 16 points behind United...12 more than when Rafa took over. Is it outrageous that you are 12 points behind the UNDISPUTED champions of England ?? considering you had to play 20 more games than United in the space Rafa has taken over? Hell, you still have a chance to claim the second spot. Fans like you are cancer to football.

All that with no real CMs, 2 mediocre strikers, and a very thin squad. and bunch of absolute excuse of fans who boo the team and the manager all the time.

1 month ago I made a thread about Chelsea's upcoming fixture pile-up and you predicted you'd finish 5th and don't win anything because the "clown" is your manager and it's too much. Guess what? You are almost guaranteed 3rd spot now, and one game away from winning a European trophy.

Now shut it and suck my sister's ass.

Why would you want Gil to suck your sister's ass? I don't understand how that's more of an insult to Gil than your sister...

only way to know is if Sepi posts a pic of his sisters ass, that way we can know if it's a punishment or not

I agree with sport so far, we need a manager that can handle the political game, but judging by how many managers we've sacked in these 20 years, I'm not sure there exists a manager that can handle the poltical game and be a great footy manager.... I do agree that Zidane has the tools to succeed tho

Maybe Gil is into that sort of thing. He may actually pay your sister a visit. Any man willing to suck that part of the body would probably do a lot more.

Anyway, Sports mentioned Spalletti on the "other" forum, I say we send a memo to Flo stating he'll be a good candidate as well...

trust me, Gil won't get to enjoy it despite her being an absolute beauty

Harry Redknapp wrote:trust me, Gil won't get to enjoy it despite her being an absolute beauty

I won't even ask how you know he won't enjoy it.

I'd rather have Mancini than Benitez btw.

Zealous wrote:I'd rather have Mancini than Benitez btw.

what a decision it would be if it came down to these two!!

i'd just take a gamble on laudrup or zidane if he has his credentials