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Re: Why Arsenal lost
That's because you wouldn't find a player of Ramsey's calibre at such a shit teamAdit wrote:Ramsey wouldnt start for Malaga
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Lex wrote:That's because you wouldn't find a player of Ramsey's calibre at such a shit teamAdit wrote:Ramsey wouldnt start for Malaga
santi cazorla, toulalan, julio baptista?
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Don't forget isco....
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Seriously i dont get this hype over Ramsey.I have watched few Arsenal games around November-December where he played CM and he did well there.He's a decent player but nothing great imo.
Yesterday he was a disaster at AM.I dunno if he was playing there regularly recently but thats just not his best position ,i've come to that assessment.Arsenal lacked the creativity and the cutting edge upfront and seriously Ramsey is not the man for that job.they really missed Wilshere yesterday.
Yesterday he was a disaster at AM.I dunno if he was playing there regularly recently but thats just not his best position ,i've come to that assessment.Arsenal lacked the creativity and the cutting edge upfront and seriously Ramsey is not the man for that job.they really missed Wilshere yesterday.
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Ramsey is always a disaster at AM. He's clearly a box to box CM. If he were played in Arteta's position he'd look much better. If he'd played in Manchester United's midfield, he's look like a 3 titted Monica Bellucci.
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Even Ramsey has a caliber?Lex wrote:That's because you wouldn't find a player of Ramsey's calibre at such a shit teamAdit wrote:Ramsey wouldnt start for Malaga
He wont make the Malaga first 11 over Carzola,not even close.Premfaces need to watch some matches outside their comfort zone.
Re: Why Arsenal lost
I watch Insignificant Liga games when i want to go to sleep, but end up laughing myself to tears over the theatrical dives and under qualified referees
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Try putting Xabi Alonso at AM.Adit wrote:Even Ramsey has a caliber?Lex wrote:That's because you wouldn't find a player of Ramsey's calibre at such a shit teamAdit wrote:Ramsey wouldnt start for Malaga
He wont make the Malaga first 11 over Carzola,not even close.Premfaces need to watch some matches outside their comfort zone.
I don't care if he plays for Madrid or whateves, but he's not going to perform. Same case with Ramsey.
Ramsey is not a frakking AM.
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
So you have never watched a single Malaga game but some how concluded their players are shit smh
Re: Why Arsenal lost
Adit wrote:So you have never watched a single Malaga game but some how concluded their players are shit smh
Lex wrote:I watch Insignificant Liga games when i want to go to sleep, but end up laughing myself to tears over the theatrical dives and under qualified referees
Dat reading ability
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Lex wrote:That's because you wouldn't find a player of Ramsey's calibre at such a shit teamAdit wrote:Ramsey wouldnt start for Malaga
For sure,thats why you made a comment like this
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I've seen Malaga in action. A few bucks later, i'm supposed to be impressed by them?
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
TBH, I've watched plenty of games and they've been very underwhelming. Apart from Demichelis, Cazorla, Rondón and maybe Monreal and Toulalan I'm not at all impressed by their displays.
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
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Try putting Xabi Alonso at AM.
I don't care if he plays for Madrid or whateves, but he's not going to perform. Same case with Ramsey.
Ramsey is not a frakking AM.
Ramsey is a DM, never thought id see that day
We've had both Khedira and Lass playing extremely high up the pitch and doing good
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
No, he's a CM . If you're actually saying Alonso is a DM, then please enlighten me in how.halamadrid2 wrote:Sushi Master wrote:
Try putting Xabi Alonso at AM.
I don't care if he plays for Madrid or whateves, but he's not going to perform. Same case with Ramsey.
Ramsey is not a frakking AM.
Ramsey is a DM, never thought id see that day
We've had both Khedira and Lass playing extremely high up the pitch and doing good
You've never had Khedira and Lass play AM, what are you talking about? You know the role Özil and Kaká play? This place ahead of the double pivot, with the role of orchestrating and creating plays?
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Madrid fan not knowing the positions of his own players
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
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No, he's a CM . If you're actually saying Alonso is a DM, then please enlighten me in how.
You've never had Khedira and Lass play AM, what are you talking about? You know the role Özil and Kaká play? This place ahead of the double pivot, with the role of orchestrating and creating plays?
ok maybe i SHOULD enlighten you, Xabi IS our DM
earlier in the season Ozil has played as a CM and Khedira(and Lass) higher up, now if you actually bothered to watch our games it would make a world of difference
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Lass and Khedira played as box to box CM's in a 4-3-3, Ramsey played as a lone AM in a 4-2-3-1.
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
A fit Ozil playing BEHIND an advancing Lass? What kind of world are we living in?
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Lex wrote:A fit Ozil playing BEHIND an advancing Lass? What kind of world are we living in?
earth, because it has happened
i bet you are one of those who think Xabi is our CM
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Xabi "tackles aren't part of the game" Alonso is Madrid's DM? Don't back that up with stats.
Then why is it he's always deployed with Lass or Khedira or Coentrao?
You do know CM/DM don't have anything to do with position, but with role. Xabi sits deep because he's the one that orchestrates from deep, the guy who starts off every play. Schweinsteiger is the guy who plays deepest in Bayern's midfield, that doesn't make him Bayern's DM. Pirlo is often seen playing deeper than anyone else, that doesn't make him Juve's DM.
My point is if you play a deep lying playmaker further up the pitch, he's not going to be effective, as is Ramsey's case.
Hala seems to get his positional definitions from FIFA
Then why is it he's always deployed with Lass or Khedira or Coentrao?
You do know CM/DM don't have anything to do with position, but with role. Xabi sits deep because he's the one that orchestrates from deep, the guy who starts off every play. Schweinsteiger is the guy who plays deepest in Bayern's midfield, that doesn't make him Bayern's DM. Pirlo is often seen playing deeper than anyone else, that doesn't make him Juve's DM.
My point is if you play a deep lying playmaker further up the pitch, he's not going to be effective, as is Ramsey's case.
Hala seems to get his positional definitions from FIFA
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
Sushi Master wrote:Xabi "tackles aren't part of the game" Alonso is Madrid's DM? Don't back that up with stats.
Then why is it he's always deployed with Lass or Khedira or Coentrao?
You do know CM/DM don't have anything to do with position, but with role. Xabi sits deep because he's the one that orchestrates from deep, the guy who starts off every play. Schweinsteiger is the guy who plays deepest in Bayern's midfield, that doesn't make him Bayern's DM. Pirlo is often seen playing deeper than anyone else, that doesn't make him Juve's DM.
My point is if you play a deep lying playmaker further up the pitch, he's not going to be effective, as is Ramsey's case.
dont talk about things you dont know.... please
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
If you're getting into a debate, then bother to back your facts up.
Concession accepted.
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
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I don't care if he plays for Madrid or whateves, but he's not going to perform. Same case with Ramsey.
Ramsey is not a frakking AM.
Ramsey has played most of the arsenal games this season at current position.
ramsey isnt a AM is a bit odd excuse though,either wenger is tactically inept or Wenger sees ramsey suitable to AM.
He has played most of Arsenal matches in current position,so its not like wenger asked him to play AM all of a sudden.
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Isn't Ramsey a CM/AM?
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Re: Why Arsenal lost
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If you're getting into a debate, then bother to back your facts up.
Concession accepted.
why should I????.......
You don't seem to watch our games(going by you knowledge of our team) yet you come here and have the guts of telling me what positions the players I watch on a weekly basis play in
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