is he really second best player? we all know that he is an avarage player without scoring. And is he really a great goalscorer? if take a look his goals,he scored 23 goals and 9 of them are from penalties.
Without penalties he scored 14 goals. Higuain also scored 14 goals playing 1100 minutes (almost 12 full games) less

i want just quote this comment by a user who analyzed cr's goals

raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

Ok he is not a great player without scoring.
And after analyzes we see that he is not a great goalscorer as people think.
So who is C.Ronaldo? Really second best player or a good-looking model who sells shirts?

and to people who dont want to answer the question then answer this:
Which girl is hotter in my sig?

billionmillion wrote:So who is C.Ronaldo? Really second best player or a good-looking model who sells shirts?

Well, nowadays that's the most important thing, isn't it? Need I say "Beckham"?

We drubbed those teams because Ronaldo was playing well LOL

Anyway Ronaldo has been great this season minus the last few weeks, He's top scorer and yes penalties do count :lucas:

And comparing him to Pipita isn't fair since he's the most effective player in the league. Goal every 60 odd minutes, even Messi dreams he could do that :dance:

Very poor indeed. Without those penalties, he'd be fourth top scorer. Messi without his penalties would still be at the top

Lex wrote:Very poor indeed. Without those penalties, he'd be fourth top scorer. Messi without his penalties would still be at the top

I know it's sounds silly but Cristiano has preformed well in games where he hasn't scored.

Without Penalties he still got 14 goals and 6 assists in 19 games (18 as a starter). Pathetic.

Nah man he's like totally a crap player.

Billionmillion aka Messis dick rider is mad. :study:

paperbackwriter wrote:Without Penalties he still got 14 goals and 6 assists in 19 games (18 as a starter). Pathetic.

But those statics are no better than RVP's. Is RVP the joint 2nd best player in the world?

El Pipita wrote:Billionmillion aka Messis dick rider is mad. :study:

Yes i'm tired of this unfair competition between them, sometimes i send insulting messages to the person's e-mail who invented penalties (to his grandson's e-mail)

but its not only me, people who analyze his stats see that he doesnt really deserve to be second best player

Pierre Hurel invented the penlty kick in 1976

It was an Irishman, William McCrum who, in 1890, submitted a proposal for "a penalty kick" to the Irish Football Association. Twelve months later it was approved by the International Football Association Board which incorporated it in the Laws of the Game.

his grandson's e-mail is
hurel76pk@gmail.com

Yeah but you talk like if scoring penalty is easy. it's not like Messi is doing it better than him.

Lex wrote:

paperbackwriter wrote:Without Penalties he still got 14 goals and 6 assists in 19 games (18 as a starter). Pathetic.

But those statics are no better than RVP's. Is RVP the joint 2nd best player in the world?

His miss today says otherwise

Nah man RVP is great I though we all agreed on that, besides those are just his league stats, his supercup/CL/CDR stats have been good too.

Zealous wrote:

Lex wrote:Very poor indeed. Without those penalties, he'd be fourth top scorer. Messi without his penalties would still be at the top

I know it's sounds silly but Cristiano has preformed well in games where he hasn't scored.

POINT

El Pipita wrote:Yeah but you talk like if scoring penalty is easy. it's not like Messi is doing it better than him.

so you think if messi got 9 penalties he would miss 8 of them. great logic

and the point here is not scoring penalties. there are ton of great penalty takers in the world. Hakan Sukur missed only 3 penalties out of 52. But was he second best player?

does messi deserve to be the best? no if you ask me. he depends a lot on his teammates which leads me to accept the fact of barcelona being rewarded as best but not accept his invidual quality over a lot players out there

messi was born lucky mate training with the same lads for years.. thats unfair for ronaldo if u ask me :shisha:

billionmillion aka missi's dickrider is mad, ever since ronaldo owned pique and scored that goal in pinto's arse :lucas:

deadrave wrote:does messi deserve to be the best? no if you ask me. he depends a lot on his teammates which leads me to accept the fact of barcelona being rewarded as best but not accept his invidual quality over a lot players out there

messi was born lucky mate training with the same lads for years.. thats unfair for ronaldo if u ask me :shisha:

Messi hat tricks this season without xaviesta: 3

Tell me again how he needs his team mates?

Penaldo > MISSi

who talked about xaviestas? obviously some1 delivered the balls to him.. his TEAMMATES! messi's hatricks for argentina? waiting for an answer mate.. ?

nothing shame of scoring 1/3 of his goals from penalties, obv. they are not easy to score. Just ask from Missi.

deadrave wrote:does messi deserve to be the best? no if you ask me. he depends a lot on his teammates which leads me to accept the fact of barcelona being rewarded as best but not accept his invidual quality over a lot players out there

messi was born lucky mate training with the same lads for years.. thats unfair for ronaldo if u ask me :shisha:

player who depends on team-mates is one who scores tap-ins and penalties. half of messi's goal are individual solo goals plus 20 assists and when he doesnt score he is one of the best on the pitch. show me a better performer than messi then we can agree that he doesnt deserve this. He is the player who makes Ray Hudson cum

and again dont turn this into messi vs cr, if you want make another thread about messi, now here we are discussing penaldo

deadrave wrote:who talked about xaviestas? obviously some1 delivered the balls to him.. his TEAMMATES! messi's hatricks for argentina? waiting for an answer mate.. ?

What are you even on about?

It's a shame what happened to the Madrid community here.

Ronaldo 2011 for Portugal (most games played in Euro Qualifiers) : 7 Goals in 9 Appearances

Missi (without xaviesta/alves) 2011 for Argentina (most goals in Copa America): 4 Goals in 13 matches

:lucas: