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Re: M'vila, likely addition?
M'vila = Hummels in the midfield
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mvila
sahin xabi
sahin xabi
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nah,having 1 of sahin and xabi is enufff ,we need ozildeezydeez wrote:mvila
sahin xabi
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Xabi alonso has bad ball control? I've heard it all now adit
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He does Giggity, he is not so great at retaining the ball under pressure, hence why he suffered vs barca for so long.
@Adit&Babun, you could steal try to hustle Malaga by giving them Kaka for Cazorla, we will all be happy
@Adit&Babun, you could steal try to hustle Malaga by giving them Kaka for Cazorla, we will all be happy
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Nick, really, this infatuation with M'vila is getting a little creepy..
Babun said its hard to find complete midfielders and that's who we should be looking for, I would bring in Italians. I know Real Madrid doesn't have the best track record with them, but they do make some of the most awesome midfield all-rounders
Babun said its hard to find complete midfielders and that's who we should be looking for, I would bring in Italians. I know Real Madrid doesn't have the best track record with them, but they do make some of the most awesome midfield all-rounders
Re: M'vila, likely addition?
You can bring up anyone you want, as long as they have enough quality, i dont mind.
Infatuation? I spent the past couple of days arguing against M'vila. every one gets some air time.
I am mentioning a player we have been linked to, and trying to discuss how he would fit, or not within our team.
Infatuation? I spent the past couple of days arguing against M'vila. every one gets some air time.
I am mentioning a player we have been linked to, and trying to discuss how he would fit, or not within our team.
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Thanks for the hint, I found the guy!Giovanni10 wrote:Nick, really, this infatuation with M'vila is getting a little creepy..
Babun said its hard to find complete midfielders and that's who we should be looking for, I would bring in Italians. I know Real Madrid doesn't have the best track record with them, but they do make some of the most awesome midfield all-rounders
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/riccardo-montolivo/profil/spieler_19446.html
This guy qulifies for our needs, much better than a pure DM, works a lot, tracks back and can go forward
I found the guy we're looking for, Nick and Adit
He'd be a real improvement in our 4-2-3-1 over Khedira
If we let go of Lass, Granero and Altintop, promote Alex and sign this guy, we're more than set afterwards
We only need to figure out how to bring up Carvajal, he is really needed in two years
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Montolivo? :lol!:
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Someone doesn't have a clue Time for gen section, I won't bother to explain all of his specialities hereSt_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Montolivo? :lol!:
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Do you play montolivo and Sahin together?
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Yeah, he is a work horse type, a little bit worse than Vidal but he'll do I made a thread in gen sectionSt_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Do you play montolivo and Sahin together?
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The truth is he cannot fit unless there is an exodus of unwanted midfield baggage, as mentioned Lass, Granero (although it kills me to say it), and Altintop- who is not Real Madrid quality and I still don't understand why we signed him.
Then we'll have Xabi, Sahin, Khedira and M'vila who would all be deserving potential starters, competing for only two slots. Sounds like a mess.
I say we just cart off Altintop and Granero and hold what we have.
If we run into an injury crisis, we can still slot in Coentrao.
So for M'vila i'm afraid it's a NO!
We are sufficiently covered everywhere. Maybe one extra world class CB is needed but only if Ramos moves back to RB.
Then we'll have Xabi, Sahin, Khedira and M'vila who would all be deserving potential starters, competing for only two slots. Sounds like a mess.
I say we just cart off Altintop and Granero and hold what we have.
If we run into an injury crisis, we can still slot in Coentrao.
So for M'vila i'm afraid it's a NO!
We are sufficiently covered everywhere. Maybe one extra world class CB is needed but only if Ramos moves back to RB.
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Montolivo cant defend, he isnt a workhorse like Vidal, no freaking chance, and he is flimsy, skinny midfielder. great technically, good passe with vision, but he cant handle the double pivot without a guy like Khedira next to him. he is more akin to Sahin than anything
@Giovani, I talked about all that in my OP.
we have we have ronaldo, benzema, higuain, Ozil, Kaka, Di maria competing for 4 spots, no one complains. and we are talking about adding another winger.
@Giovani, I talked about all that in my OP.
we have we have ronaldo, benzema, higuain, Ozil, Kaka, Di maria competing for 4 spots, no one complains. and we are talking about adding another winger.
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Montolivo? :lol!:
Montolivo is actually exactly the player I had in mind but will of course never find himself in Spain one day.
Nick you laugh, but have you seen his performances for Azzurri lately? The guy has it all- passing short and long, amazing long range shot, immense touch and he can steal the ball. I would put him next to Xabi over any of the players we currently have.
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I know well about his technical qualities, and yeah you can play him next to Xabi, but would you do the same with Sahin? it's all i need to hear about. He has a nice work rate, but it's different than having the required positioning in our new scheme. Keep in mind that the lone DM, Xabi, is heavily involved with the defense and often drops deep to play alongside them.
I'm thinking long term, but i hear you.
I'm thinking long term, but i hear you.
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Montolivo cant defend, he isnt a workhorse like Vidal, no freaking chance, and he is flimsy, skinny midfielder. great technically, good passe with vision, but he cant handle the double pivot without a guy like Khedira next to him. he is more akin to Sahin than anything
@Giovani, I talked about all that in my OP.
we have we have ronaldo, benzema, higuain, Ozil, Kaka, Di maria competing for 4 spots, no one complains. and we are talking about adding another winger.
Honestly now you've stopped thinking bro.
You don't put him next to Khedira, he takes the guys place and pivots with Xabi.
I agree with you that he is nothing like Vidal, don't know what Babun is talking about there. But he can defend. Besides Khedira is not a God or something, he is slow as feck and continuously out of position due to his erratic bursts forward down the right.
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Montolivo is doing pretty decent recently. But he was not all that good as early as all of last year... need more than a couple of good months to pull the trigger on a guy. Lets see if he can have a good full season and then come back and confirm it for a second season.
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Giovanni10 wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Montolivo cant defend, he isnt a workhorse like Vidal, no freaking chance, and he is flimsy, skinny midfielder. great technically, good passe with vision, but he cant handle the double pivot without a guy like Khedira next to him. he is more akin to Sahin than anything
@Giovani, I talked about all that in my OP.
we have we have ronaldo, benzema, higuain, Ozil, Kaka, Di maria competing for 4 spots, no one complains. and we are talking about adding another winger.
Honestly now you've stopped thinking bro.
You don't put him next to Khedira, he takes the guys place and pivots with Xabi.
I agree with you that he is nothing like Vidal, don't know what Babun is talking about there. But he can defend. Besides Khedira is not a God or something, he is slow as feck and continuously out of position due to his erratic bursts forward down the right.
What do you disagree about in my post?
The thing is that our future is named Sahin, the question should very much be, can he play next to Sahin.
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Montolivo is a CM that can defend, a complete one Yeah, you could pair him with Sahin because Sahin defends and steals the ball as well. It's better this way than designating the role to a DM and letting Sahin do the rest. This way, teams wouldn't be able to gang up on one of themSt_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Giovanni10 wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Montolivo cant defend, he isnt a workhorse like Vidal, no freaking chance, and he is flimsy, skinny midfielder. great technically, good passe with vision, but he cant handle the double pivot without a guy like Khedira next to him. he is more akin to Sahin than anything
@Giovani, I talked about all that in my OP.
we have we have ronaldo, benzema, higuain, Ozil, Kaka, Di maria competing for 4 spots, no one complains. and we are talking about adding another winger.
Honestly now you've stopped thinking bro.
You don't put him next to Khedira, he takes the guys place and pivots with Xabi.
I agree with you that he is nothing like Vidal, don't know what Babun is talking about there. But he can defend. Besides Khedira is not a God or something, he is slow as feck and continuously out of position due to his erratic bursts forward down the right.
What do you disagree about in my post?
The thing is that our future is named Sahin, the question should very much be, can he play next to Sahin.
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We're talking about a summer signing. If he sucks, he won't be a candidate but as of now, observed by me, he possesses the qualities we need in our double pivotsportsczy wrote:Montolivo is doing pretty decent recently. But he was not all that good as early as all of last year... need more than a couple of good months to pull the trigger on a guy. Lets see if he can have a good full season and then come back and confirm it for a second season.
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Giovanni10 wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Montolivo cant defend, he isnt a workhorse like Vidal, no freaking chance, and he is flimsy, skinny midfielder. great technically, good passe with vision, but he cant handle the double pivot without a guy like Khedira next to him. he is more akin to Sahin than anything
@Giovani, I talked about all that in my OP.
we have we have ronaldo, benzema, higuain, Ozil, Kaka, Di maria competing for 4 spots, no one complains. and we are talking about adding another winger.
Honestly now you've stopped thinking bro.
You don't put him next to Khedira, he takes the guys place and pivots with Xabi.
I agree with you that he is nothing like Vidal, don't know what Babun is talking about there. But he can defend. Besides Khedira is not a God or something, he is slow as feck and continuously out of position due to his erratic bursts forward down the right.
What do you disagree about in my post?
The thing is that our future is named Sahin, the question should very much be, can he play next to Sahin.
I'm still going to need a hell of a lot of convincing before I will buy into the concept of a future midfield built around Nuri Sahin.
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Montolivo can't really defend babun... he's just not physical enough. Sure, for a CM he's ok. But in no way is he considered a good defender. He's much better than what he used to be, which is a credit to him.
Sahin+Montolivo would be a disaster defensively. Montolivo with Khedira or Alonso would work... but then, what would be the point? Besides, Montolivo is 26 and would not want to rotate. These are his prime years.
Sahin+Montolivo would be a disaster defensively. Montolivo with Khedira or Alonso would work... but then, what would be the point? Besides, Montolivo is 26 and would not want to rotate. These are his prime years.
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Giovanni10 wrote:
I'm still going to need a hell of a lot of convincing before I will buy into the concept of a future midfield built around Nuri Sahin.
Oh that's your problem? you dont rate Sahin and sees Montolivo as a better option for his role? oh well
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Giovanni10 wrote:
I'm still going to need a hell of a lot of convincing before I will buy into the concept of a future midfield built around Nuri Sahin.
Oh that's your problem? you dont rate Sahin and sees Montolivo as a better option for his role? oh well
Sahin>>>>>>Montolivo. People keep forgetting that Sahin was Bundi player of the year in 2010-2011.
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He can defend, Sahin can as well. Combine them and we're covered They don't have to play DMs, they're present to pressure and make steals together with the team. Both of them steal the ball better than Khedira, just need to organize the pressing properlysportsczy wrote:Montolivo can't really defend babun... he's just not physical enough. Sure, for a CM he's ok. But in no way is he considered a good defender. He's much better than what he used to be, which is a credit to him.
Sahin+Montolivo would be a disaster defensively. Montolivo with Khedira or Alonso would work... but then, what would be the point? Besides, Montolivo is 26 and would not want to rotate. These are his prime years.
By the way, he is free next year, it might work
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