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Post by crazzyblanco Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:15 am

why dont we just bring back canales and sarabia and get rid of lass and altintop. That way the home grown quota gets satisfied and we have a scarily young and brilliant team for the next few years

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Post by daneq Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:22 am

M'Villa vs USA = Meh'Villa
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Post by crazzyblanco Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:40 am

sometimes i think if these discussions would still be happening if de la red was still playing.... Neutral
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Post by Adit Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:27 am

Giovanni10 wrote:Borja Valero is shit..

Yeah I said it :coffee:
No

Who rated him here? my borjittowankfest is the only reason he is getting half the spotlight he deserved.. Twisted Evil
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Post by Adit Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:30 am

This guy is what we need :mental:


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Post by Giovanni10 Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:36 am

Adit wrote:
Giovanni10 wrote:Borja Valero is shit..

Yeah I said it :coffee:
No

Who rated him here? my borjittowankfest is the only reason he is getting half the spotlight he deserved.. Twisted Evil


Lol, I was saying it to annoy you, he's not that bad.


Anyways, from last night's performances Meh'vila and Babun's suggestion of Mehtolivo were both awful in their respective games.

I have the Italian that we should get: Claudio Marchisio! Honestly, anyone tell me he is not the real deal, then you'd really be blind.
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Post by Adit Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:43 am

Marchisio is very good player but not great.

Vidal on the other hand is some thing..

Watched lot of juve matches this season ,pirlo and vidal are the people who make things happen.Sure Marchisio scores alot and can defend well but his potential is so limited..
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Post by Giovanni10 Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:41 am

If Marchisio can "defend well and score goals" then that is already two things he does better than Khedira. I'm pretty sure he can pass better, long, short and final balls.
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Post by teamanarchy Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:42 pm

Also... Gago will be back. I'm still hoping he has something to offer... Assisted Lavezzi for the goal last night...
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:35 pm

Still riding that gago fan boat i see Very Happy

A lot of you guys are mentioning the wrong fit. Marchisio, sure, great lad, with Alonso he would be great. Only, our short term future suggests that an in form Sahin will be leading RM in the coming years.

Is Marchisio the right fit to play next to Sahin? i dont think so. Gago? lol, no.

I think Javi Martinez could be a good fit, but he is a current basque god, so signing him would be incredibly tough.

still, M'vila is the only one we are linked with atm.

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Post by buddytaller Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:43 pm

Madrid can get Daniele De Rossi on the free, his contract with Roma expires next summer, contract negotiations are not going so smoothly. He's about 4 times the player M'Villa is ...
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:56 pm

buddytaller wrote:Madrid can get Daniele De Rossi on the free, his contract with Roma expires next summer, contract negotiations are not going so smoothly. He's about 4 times the player M'Villa is ...

Not really. Last night was not an indicator at all. Imagine a Lass-Khedira midfield except that Lass is much better than Diarra is right now... that was doomed to fail. In fact, M'Vila lamented the lack of a playmaker in the midfield after the game. He would get the ball, look up and have to force it someone before getting closed down because nobody would make themselves available. It caused turnovers and rattled him overall as he developed no rhythm.

De Rossi is a bad fit for the type of midfielder we're looking for. La Liga plays much faster than Serie A and, given that Sahin is going to be the main creative force in the midfield, you need to pair someone with him that can support him and allow him to play freely. Age is an issue with De Rossi too...


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Post by guest7 Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:59 pm

that's not true, also mou has been linked with rossi before so the interest is there

i'd take rossi any day over m'vila atm
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:17 pm

Today... Of course. But we're not signing anyone for immediate guaranteed starting, which is what Rossi will demand. We need someone who will be there in 2 years when Alonso slows and Sahin takes over.

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Post by Katy Perry Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:46 pm

It would be great for madrid but i dont know if there is a real interest or just rumors . Yet i don't see any real's cm better than him except for alonso (i never watched sahin 2 play)

maybe lass+granero out and m'vila in=? big improvement bounce

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Post by futbol_bill Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:27 pm

As interesting as this thread is, the only way M'Vila or any other MF comes is if we get rid of all 3 of Lass, Altintop and Granero and Sahin not developing into key MF for Madrid.

Highly highly unlikely.

We have Alonso, Khedira, Sahin, Coentrao plus whoever remains of Lass, Granero, Altintop. No room and for sure M'Vila won't come to sit on bench.
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Post by Babun Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:27 pm

futbol_bill wrote:As interesting as this thread is, the only way M'Vila or any other MF comes is if we get rid of all 3 of Lass, Altintop and Granero and Sahin not developing into key MF for Madrid.

Highly highly unlikely.

We have Alonso, Khedira, Sahin, Coentrao plus whoever remains of Lass, Granero, Altintop. No room and for sure M'Vila won't come to sit on bench.
I'd sell all of the three and promote Alex. Xabi, Sahin, Khedira and Coentrao are more than enough cover for two MF places eco smile
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Post by S32TABLANCA Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:00 pm

futbol_bill wrote:As interesting as this thread is, the only way M'Vila or any other MF comes is if we get rid of all 3 of Lass, Altintop and Granero and Sahin not developing into key MF for Madrid.

Highly highly unlikely.

We have Alonso, Khedira, Sahin, Coentrao plus whoever remains of Lass, Granero, Altintop. No room and for sure M'Vila won't come to sit on bench.

Why? With those three gone, you have no 'extra' dead weight players and instead 4 (5 if you count Coentrao) very good midfielders. That will be hell to rotate in the first year or two, but Alonso will not last forever and probably in that time Mvila will be better then him. Xabi may remain here and be a rotation player, or choose to leave and go back to Sociedad. So we wont be very crowded after all.

Mvila-Sahin is the future. That midfield would dominate.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:40 pm

Saetablanca wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:As interesting as this thread is, the only way M'Vila or any other MF comes is if we get rid of all 3 of Lass, Altintop and Granero and Sahin not developing into key MF for Madrid.

Highly highly unlikely.

We have Alonso, Khedira, Sahin, Coentrao plus whoever remains of Lass, Granero, Altintop. No room and for sure M'Vila won't come to sit on bench.

Why? With those three gone, you have no 'extra' dead weight players and instead 4 (5 if you count Coentrao) very good midfielders. That will be hell to rotate in the first year or two, but Alonso will not last forever and probably in that time Mvila will be better then him. Xabi may remain here and be a rotation player, or choose to leave and go back to Sociedad. So we wont be very crowded after all.

Mvila-Sahin is the future. That midfield would dominate.

You won't be able to sell all 3 and M'Vila won't come to be a bench player. Once Sahin gets estalished into team, there will be rotation amongst Xabi, Khedira and Sahin. Late substitutions occasionally will be Lass and Coentrao. And all this talk about missing links in MF will disappear.
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Post by crazzyblanco Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:25 am

babun1024 wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:As interesting as this thread is, the only way M'Vila or any other MF comes is if we get rid of all 3 of Lass, Altintop and Granero and Sahin not developing into key MF for Madrid.

Highly highly unlikely.

We have Alonso, Khedira, Sahin, Coentrao plus whoever remains of Lass, Granero, Altintop. No room and for sure M'Vila won't come to sit on bench.
I'd sell all of the three and promote Alex. Xabi, Sahin, Khedira and Coentrao are more than enough cover for two MF places eco smile

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Post by crazzyblanco Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:29 am

We dont need anybody. Our squad is one of the most complete squads i've ever seen. I'm quite certain the we'll the league and cl this year and from next year onwards we'll see our canteros get more playing time. Rather than buying we should look at selling some of our dead weights like lass and altintop.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:39 pm

@Babun, Coentrao is not a midfielder, i am not pretending that he is so that he can fit in the midfield, it's a bust so far, he has no business being here, frankly, had we signed Isla, who is the right sided version of coentrao, we would be happy.

Alex is really good, but he is only going to take meaning for us when Xabi retires or leaves madrid. He is more like a holding midfielder, but needs defensive support. If we go to Adelante, im sure he will get some looks to the first team, but loaning him isnt a bad idea. watch out for Omar as well, he is very good.
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Post by Babun Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:04 pm

Omar is too young, he'll come into picture in 2-3 years again until then he'll do well to practice in castilla Very Happy Alex is another story, he really needs harder competition Very Happy
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:11 pm

Yeah, he is battle ready. Now it's a matter of finding the right club for him, not another one to send to Getafe.

Omar will take over after him, kid is awesome.
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Post by S32TABLANCA Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:24 pm

futbol_bill wrote:[You won't be able to sell all 3

Thats probably the only problem.
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Post by Babun Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:17 pm

Bump eco smile
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