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Post by Gil Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:51 pm

Fenerbahce have been prevented from competing in the Champions League this season due to the match-fixing investigation that has enveloped Turkish football.
The draw for the group stages takes place on Thursday evening and Fenerbahce were due to be one of the teams picked from pot three during the ceremony.
However, the Turkish Football Federation has now confirmed via a statement on its official website that Fener have been told they cannot compete in the competition.
Fenerbahce were crowned Turkish champions in 2010-11 and although last season's results stand at present, their chairman Aziz Yildirim is one of over 30 people who have been jailed pending trial following allegations of manipulation in 19 matches.
The start to the Turkish season has already been put back by a month until September 9 so the Federation can fully investigate the allegations.
UEFA is yet to make a statement concerning how Fenerbahce will be replaced in Thursday's draw.
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Wonder who'll replace them
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Post by Babun Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:52 pm

Please, Liverpool! Very Happy
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Post by Gil Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:54 pm

It'll either be Arsenal (if they get kicked out tonight) or Trabonzpor (sp) who were runners up in Turkey last season.
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Post by Babun Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:54 pm

Gil wrote:It'll either be Arsenal (if they get kicked out tonight) or Trabonzpor (sp) who were runners up in Turkey last season.
Then, thank but no thanks Very Happy
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Post by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:55 pm

Just hearing Liverpool could be in the Champions League as a result of Fenerbahce being expelled. When a team is expelled UEFA may give the place to the team with the highest co-efficient not currently in Europe. However - no nation can have more than four teams in the Champions League so all may rest on Arsenal losing?

The other turk team are also involved in the scandal so cant replace them, it would be liverpool.
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Post by juberish Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:57 pm

Ah the turks, doin what turks do
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:02 pm

It was all our master plan. Lose that game at home to Spurs, and send them to EL anticipating Turkish Scandal, so we can sneak through. :coffee:

I am reading a lot of stuff about us replacing Fener too, but it'd be very strange and weird....will be interesting to see how it pans out Laughing

Uefa will probably send Spurs to CL, and give us their EL...hope we refuse it and forfeit if they come up with such idea

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:04 pm

dalejohnsonESPN Dale Johnson
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However - no nation can have more than four teams in the Champions League so all may rest on Arsenal losing? Trying to get confirmation.
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When a team is expelled UEFA may give the place to the team with the highest co-efficient not currently in Europe.




WE ARE THE HIGHEST RANKED TEAM IN COEFF NOT IN EUROPE.

ALL DEPENDS ON ARSENAL, COME ON UDINESE !!!

OMG
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All those CL semis, EL semi, CL quarters and finals under Rafa, may send us to CL now Laughing

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Post by Babun Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:06 pm

Sepi wrote:dalejohnsonESPN Dale Johnson
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However - no nation can have more than four teams in the Champions League so all may rest on Arsenal losing? Trying to get confirmation.
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When a team is expelled UEFA may give the place to the team with the highest co-efficient not currently in Europe.




WE ARE THE HIGHEST RANKED TEAM IN COEFF NOT IN EUROPE.

ALL DEPENDS ON ARSENAL, COME ON UDINESE !!!

OMG
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JIZZ
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:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

All those CL semis, EL semi, CL quarters and finals under Rafa, may send us to CL now Laughing
So I was right in the end Very Happy C'mon Arsenal, lose today! Wenger will have an excuse to not invest a lot= no CL Very Happy Win-win situation Very Happy
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Post by paperbackwriter Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:09 pm

Didn't England get an extra spot when Liverpool won CL while they failed to qualify for the tourney? So they could try to defend their crown.
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Post by ArsenalWenger Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:11 pm

@jouracule

Who will replace Fenerbahçe: "The highest ranked country by coefficient to have their league champions go out at QR4" Atm it's FC København.



That's what he says anyway. I've seen so many scenarios on twitter that I'm not really sure what's happening. We will find out at 7.30 as UEFA have just said they will clarify the situation with Fenerbache going out.


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Post by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:13 pm

paperbackwriter wrote:Didn't England get an extra spot when Liverpool won CL while they failed to qualify for the tourney? So they could try to defend their crown.

Yea...but then Everton didn't even make the CL group stages.
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I am reading different scenarios as well, but I am sure I read no country can have more than 4 participants from now on under any circumstances.

So if Arsenal advances tonight, and the scnario is the one I posted...then I guess it'll be the 2nd best coeff team not in Europe.

We are currently 8th behind United, Barca, Chelsea, Bayern, Arsenal, Real, Porto, Inter

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Post by Babun Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:13 pm

ArsenalWenger wrote:@jouracule

Who will replace Fenerbahçe: "The highest ranked country by coefficient to have their league champions go out at QR4" Atm it's FC København.

That's what he says anyway. I've seen so many scenarios on twitter that I'm not really sure what's happening.
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/index.html

Liverpool holds 9th place Very Happy
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:15 pm

Official UEFA statement expected at 7:30 (not sure central or GMT)

Anyways this rumour was fun and Lulz while it lasted.

Trabzonspor probably get the place IMO


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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:16 pm

Juve in CL if even Pool has a chance..... :coffee:
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Post by Alsteinenburg Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:17 pm

That's not exactly true.

There have been periods when there have been four or more teams from one nation in the Champions League.

The 2005/06 Champions league, the top four were United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton.
As Liverpool won the season before, they were put into the first qualifying round and subsequently qualified for the group stages.

Everton however, were knocked out during the third qualifying round.
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Post by Jay29 Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:23 pm

If no nation can have more than the alloted number of teams in the Champions League regardless of the circumstances, then the team that replaces Fernerbache surely has to be one of the teams that are in the final qualifying round.

If we win, then Liverpool can't get in since there'd be four English teams. The next team on the list not in Europe would be Werder Bremen, who are 14th, but Germany already have their three teams in Europe. And it'll keep going on like that.

There's no other way to avoid that rule. Plus, I think it'd make more sense since these teams have already qualified through their league placing. Putting in a team that finished outside the Champions League spots last season just wouldn't seem right.


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Post by Art Morte Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:24 pm

I really don't think it can be us, Tottenham would go ballistic if we got into the CL before them when they finished last season above us.
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:25 pm

^^^
Imagine Harry's face Laughing

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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:52 pm

babun1024 wrote:Please, Liverpool! Very Happy

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Post by the xcx Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:54 pm

Any club besides failpool.
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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:04 pm

The xcx wrote:Any club besides failpool.

Your so polite Smile
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:05 pm

If Arsenal wins, then who? I would assume either a Ligue 1 or Bundesliga team. Does PSG have a shot?

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Post by S Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:06 pm

So if Udinese lose its going to be the highest ranked non-pl team that'll enter the competition ?

If so..Who's the highest ranked non-pl team ?
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Post by McAgger Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:09 pm

It's Werder but Germany has three teams in so it cant be them either
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