UCL QF 2019/20 | Atalanta Vs PSG

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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:07 am

Im just glad PSG won, for some reason I just like to watch stars play and seeing Mbappe back linking up with NEymar is just a joy to watch as a football fan. Everytime I see Neymar shine though on the pitch I still feel a bit of sadness of what if he stayed, the best tri ultra attacking 3 of all time, it would have been a blessing for all football fans to watch for years at Barca Razz

Both teams missed players but in the end Alatanta did so well and played above their level to take PSG right till the end there.

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Post by McLewis Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:10 am

Gutted for Atalanta tbh. They gave everything, but just fell short.

Mbappe coming off the bench when they're tiring like that is a straight up cheat code.
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Post by guest_07 Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:17 am

danyjr wrote:Salamalaykum Muslim brothers and good evening to infidels.

The catholic infidels were slain tonight by the sword of Allah.

Insha'Allah.


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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:49 am

Casciavit wrote:Atalanta probably still loses even if they park the bus at the end.
yup. most teams that park it lose when theres such a difference in quality. especially if theyre not used to it
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Post by CBarca Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:00 am

Arquitecto wrote:Tactically they were indeed spot on but the decisions post 1-0 (surprise) is what had them lose their fighting chances. If they did not sit back a lot of those open runs made by Nerman likely would not have happened.

The decision to sit back on a 1-0 lead needs to be finished in Football unless you specifically are a Simeone/Mourinho type team.


Gasperini's Atalanta are the absolute opposite of it.


You keep saying this and you're not wrong, but I don't think Atalanta did so because they wanted to, but because they were so tired and PSG is a great team
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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:06 am

guest_07 wrote:
danyjr wrote:Salamalaykum Muslim brothers and good evening to infidels.

The catholic infidels were slain tonight by the sword of Allah.

Insha'Allah.


May Allah guide you and the rest,
my brother.

Does Allah also guide infidels or no? Asking for a friend
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:27 am

CBarca wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Tactically they were indeed spot on but the decisions post 1-0 (surprise) is what had them lose their fighting chances. If they did not sit back a lot of those open runs made by Nerman likely would not have happened.

The decision to sit back on a 1-0 lead needs to be finished in Football unless you specifically are a Simeone/Mourinho type team.


Gasperini's Atalanta are the absolute opposite of it.


You keep saying this and you're not wrong, but I don't think Atalanta did so because they wanted to, but because they were so tired and PSG is a great team


I say it due to the immediate change of strategy right after the goal, to which wasn't late into the game let alone first half. And that change was defending the lead.

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Post by guest_07 Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:59 am

Myesyats wrote:
guest_07 wrote:
danyjr wrote:Salamalaykum Muslim brothers and good evening to infidels.

The catholic infidels were slain tonight by the sword of Allah.

Insha'Allah.


May Allah guide you and the rest,
my brother.

Does Allah also guide infidels or no? Asking for a friend


Even a hardcore hater
turn to hardcore lover.

Why not,
my brother

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Post by Helmer Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:10 am

CBarca wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Tactically they were indeed spot on but the decisions post 1-0 (surprise) is what had them lose their fighting chances. If they did not sit back a lot of those open runs made by Nerman likely would not have happened.

The decision to sit back on a 1-0 lead needs to be finished in Football unless you specifically are a Simeone/Mourinho type team.


Gasperini's Atalanta are the absolute opposite of it.


You keep saying this and you're not wrong, but I don't think Atalanta did so because they wanted to, but because they were so tired and PSG is a great team

I also felt the same. Atlanta did try to keep hold of the ball but simply failed, out of tiredness, probably quality also.

All I care is Tuchel progressed. I think he is doing decent job with regards to the dressing room atmosphere and squad management. I hope he goes till the end.

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Post by danyjr Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:14 pm

Helmer wrote:I also felt the same. Atlanta did try to keep hold of the ball but simply failed, out of tiredness, probably quality also.
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:20 pm

Surprised Atalanta's squad even amounts to that much tbh
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Post by danyjr Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:33 pm

Same. I think all their players' market values have gone up because of their recent achievements. Transfermarkt is not very reliable.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:35 pm

Unreal assist tbh

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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:59 pm

9,47 on Whoscored. He was absolutely insane in this game, uncontainable, always several steps ahead. Best individual performance i've seen in a long time, vintage Messi-esque almost.

Icardi and Sarabia looked like juniors next to him. This game was basically Neymar FC vs Atalanta Bergamo, at least until Mbappe came on.
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Post by Helmer Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:59 pm

danyjr wrote:
Helmer wrote:I also felt the same. Atlanta did try to keep hold of the ball but simply failed, out of tiredness, probably quality also.
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt

whattt 261m Laughing
I am curious what is the max they have spent on a player in last 2 seasons?

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:03 pm

It really was Neymar mostly in attack creating the problems for Atalanta though not so much in the second half when he was allowed less space.

He should be in about his prime by now so next 2 years will be crucial to how he is seen in the footballing history books.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:58 pm

danyjr wrote:
Helmer wrote:I also felt the same. Atlanta did try to keep hold of the ball but simply failed, out of tiredness, probably quality also.
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt

I'd say a better point of comparison is that Neymar's wage alone is worth that of the entire Atalanta team
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Post by danyjr Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:16 pm

Helmer wrote:
danyjr wrote:
Helmer wrote:I also felt the same. Atlanta did try to keep hold of the ball but simply failed, out of tiredness, probably quality also.
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt

whattt 261m Laughing
I am curious what is the max they have spent on a player in last 2 seasons?  
Muriel from Sevilla for €15 million. Tbh him, Gómez and Iličić are their only players I'd heard of before. The rest were unknown to me.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:27 pm

PSG going to have a hard time with Icardi looking like he did... been like this from the start of post-covid.

You can see the rust on players when the finals balls and finishing are poor. You can only get sharp there in real games, not exhibitions.
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Post by rincon Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:22 pm

danyjr wrote:
Helmer wrote:
danyjr wrote:
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt

whattt 261m Laughing
I am curious what is the max they have spent on a player in last 2 seasons?  
Muriel from Sevilla for €15 million. Tbh him, Gómez and Iličić are their only players I'd heard of before. The rest were unknown to me.

Zapata was 25m iirc. I think that's their record.

Ilicic in particular was a coup. Atalanta signing him from Fiorentina was a proper statement
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Post by Helmer Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:00 pm

danyjr wrote:
Helmer wrote:
danyjr wrote:
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt

whattt 261m Laughing
I am curious what is the max they have spent on a player in last 2 seasons?  
Muriel from Sevilla for €15 million. Tbh him, Gómez and Iličić are their only players I'd heard of before. The rest were unknown to me.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
danyjr wrote:
Helmer wrote:I also felt the same. Atlanta did try to keep hold of the ball but simply failed, out of tiredness, probably quality also.
PSG squad market value: £721.31m
Atalanta squad market value: €261.70m

Source: transfermarkt

I'd say a better point of comparison is that Neymar's wage alone is worth that of the entire Atalanta team
both of these give better perspective. Let's see how they do it next season in Serie A and CL both.

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