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Post by Kaladin on Wed May 08, 2019 3:00 am

Did you see their routes? Porto, one of the worst Barcas, Monaco

2015;
Dortmund, Monaco, a Madrid side that played Ramos in midfield

Sorry i think i'm the only one here who doesn't buy into this Euromax crap

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Post by Doc on Wed May 08, 2019 3:03 am

I don't buy it either but I'm trying to seriously find this "miles better" stuff.

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Post by alexjanosik on Wed May 08, 2019 3:52 am

He is a good manager and coach. Plays a more pragmatic style but gets along well with the players and is very good tactically. I do blame him for the starting lineup today. Roberto should not have started. He should have gone with the 4 man midfield that started away against Betis.

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Post by rincon on Wed May 08, 2019 9:01 am

What a load of BS. We play Barca and Madrid on the way to finals = excuses. This poor man's copy blows two 3-0 first leg leads = same as Allegri. He lost a 3-0 lead to Roma Laughing
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Post by adun101 on Wed May 08, 2019 10:16 pm

@Kaladin wrote:Your career mode save doesn't count mate


Says the guy who writes nonsense like this:

@Kaladin wrote:In:

Manolas 40m (release clause)
Fekir 50m
Zielinski 35m
Alex Sandro 25m (expiring contract)
Rabiot Free
Tonali 10m
Fortounis: 15m

Total: 175m

Out:

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Biglia 10m
Silva 40m
Bertolacci 10m
Laxalt 15m
Castillejo 20m
Strinic 5m
Halilovic 10m
Calhanoglu 25m

Total: 175m

Coach: Conte

3-5-1-1

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Fekir
Alex Sandro-Paqueta-Rabiot-Zielinski-Calabria
Romagnoli-Caldara-Manolas
Donnarumma

Bench: Cutrone, Bonaventura, Glik, Tonali, Fortounis, Reina, Conti
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Post by Kaladin on Wed May 08, 2019 10:17 pm

Touche, my point is still valid though. Allegri isn't a European guru by any means.

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Post by adun101 on Wed May 08, 2019 10:32 pm

@Doc wrote:I don't buy it either but I'm trying to seriously find this "miles better" stuff.


I'm no fan of Allegri because of his shitty/nonexistent offensive system and his philosophy, but he can coach-up a defense, as a unit and individually. He made a defender out of Alex Sandro, ffs. Barca's defense last night was MIA.

Allegri is great at managing the match while Valverde, for the second year in a row, has done nothing to stop the flood, getting routed by freakin Roma and by Pool's second stringers. It happened to Allegri, too, but it was against Barca while using all-stars like Constant, Niang and Montolivo.
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Post by Perucho21 on Wed May 08, 2019 10:33 pm

Valverde is perfect for them. He should get an extension.

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Post by adun101 on Wed May 08, 2019 10:34 pm

@Kaladin wrote:Touche, my point is still valid though. Allegri isn't a European guru by any means.


Like I said, I'm no fan, but the discussion was Valverde vs Allegri
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon May 27, 2019 10:08 pm

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Post by Myesyats on Mon May 27, 2019 10:10 pm

Ernesto Valverde wants to stay at Barcelona to fulfil his contract at the club. Bartomeu backs him, but other people within the board think that the coach should go. The decision will be taken soon. General manager Pep Segura could be fired. [@sinconcesiones]

gtfo already smh
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Post by BarcaLearning on Tue May 28, 2019 3:36 am

Martinez I rated b4 and during the WC, but ultimately, was disappointing in the end the way Belgium were knocked out. I think he is very good, but good enough to lead Barca? Dont get the feeling, it feels like another Valverde?
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Post by Doc on Tue May 28, 2019 7:23 am

If Madrid or Atletico lose La Liga to Martinez, both should be automatically relegated to Serie A imo.

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Post by futbol on Tue May 28, 2019 11:53 am

Roberto Martinez from Everton? Laughing

Enter Banter Era Barcelona.

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Post by futbol on Tue May 28, 2019 11:57 am





I actually really want this to be true. The entertainment levels on Barcaforum will be epic. Laughing

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Post by Myesyats on Tue May 28, 2019 3:07 pm

I read he is contracted with Belgium still and his appointment would be very complicated.

BTW we already entered banter-era Barca in 2013 with a only a short pit-stop in 2015.
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Post by Perucho21 on Tue May 28, 2019 4:49 pm

Valverde brings in domestic success and listens and obeys Messis every command. Perfect coach for a club like Barcelona and should remain for years to come

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Post by futbol_bill on Tue May 28, 2019 5:23 pm

I find it comical how both Madrid and Barcelona boards and fans put so much pressure on coaches and toss them out like changing cars when ashtray is full!

Meanwhile, there is no accountability on the players nor the board who both are ultimately responsible for goals not being met!
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Post by Myesyats on Tue May 28, 2019 5:31 pm

What do you mean? Everyone gets their share of the blame, however, the coach is the easiest to replace.
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Post by BarcaLearning on Tue May 28, 2019 5:55 pm

Unfortunately clubs just cannot get rid of players whenever they want, at least not a whole bunch of them at once. This is the same with most other top clubs, and knowing that and the board's recent habits, we know its the manager the one that can be rid of for changes. We are winning the league, but the circumstances and the way we were knocked out, and then the performance in the Copa, proves we need changes.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue May 28, 2019 7:53 pm

Di Marzio say Roberto Martinez will be the new coach. Basically confirmed lol.
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