Re: Transfer Rumours | Tactics | Who to buy/sell etc

by VanDeezNuts Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:18 pm

In recent history we bought Modric, Kroos, Xabi, Khedira. All of these guys went straight into the starting XI.

Besides, this logic of using knowledge of prior purchasing is a bit faulty considering Zidane has more purchasing power than any manager bar Mourinho has in the past. If ZZ believes we needs these types of players like I think we do, and he has the money that I think he does, we will buy these types of players.

Ultimately, if the reports are to be trusted that we have about 300m + player sales, there are going to be about as many changes as we saw in 2009. So don't expect Fede to be starting next season.

by Mr Nick09 Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:40 am

Representatives of Real Madrid and Lyon midfielder Tanguy Ndombele have met in the last few days. Talks between the two parties were positive as the Spanish club sought to understand the intentions of Ndombele whilst also setting out their plans to the player. (FM)
— Rich Allen (@rich_allen85) April 25, 2019

by futbol_bill Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:57 am

I don’t mind if they go and buy Mendy and Ndombele. What I’m questioning is the theme in here by some that they come in as backup, thereby improving bench strength while challenging starters. I just don’t but that. It’s difficult to obtain good players that are capable of starting and expect them to ride the bench! What I think the objectives are is to improve the front line / more goal scoring capabilities and improving midfield.

I feel the signings of Hazard and Jovic, the arrival of Rodrygo plus probably the return of de Tomas is what we will end up for this year as far as an improved front line! So no I don’t buy that a RW is also being sought.

Then for midfield, i say they are or should be looking for replacements / improvements of Kroos, Modric and probably Isco. It does seem like at least one of Ceballos or Llorente will be gone, but I’ll bet they will bring in another kid to replacement to fill out squad. I just don’t see a guy like Ndombele coming in as a backup. Another possibility is they go with just 2 midfielders, to allow Hazard to play as AM, as Nick and Sports have suggested. If they do that then Casemiro and Valverde would be the backups!!

Similarly I feel the issue with LB is whether Marcelo stays or goes. If he goes, then Mendy would be sought, but otherwise, I don’t see him coming!

by Mr Nick09 Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:23 am

Not sure that i understand your point, are you trying to predict what the signings will be? that's a waste of time because you simply will never know.

When we mentioned Ndombele and Mendy, it's because those are the type of moves we want to see. Team needs an overhaul, stronger players need to come in to compete with the players already at the club.

by Doc Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:18 am

If we only end up with Hazard, Jovic and Rodrygo, I would personally feel the job is only half done. As we are all seeing, our midfield is in need of some serious injection of strength (mixed with talent) and Regi, bless his heart, would not be playing much with Zizou. Good talent but Zizou would have him rot in training.

by VanDeezNuts Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:53 am

I agree Doc. I’m still holding out hope for the team I described in my 300m rebuild thread. Probably won’t get all the names I outlined, but if we got Jovic, Hazard, Ndom, and Rabiot I would say that is about the minimum I would accept to start next season.

Adding to that one of Eriksen/Pogba, plus either a RW like Pepe, converted Sane, or Salah (if ZZ opts for a 4-3-3) or a ST like Icardi, Auba, or Cavani (if ZZ opts for a 4-4-2 Zidiamond) would be absolute tops.

by Thimmy Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:49 am

No chance in hell is this true.

Transfer Rumours | Tactics | Who to buy/sell etc - Page 33 2885imq

by Mr Nick09 Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:22 am

of course it's fake, Asensio stock has plummeted to nothing of course his agent is trying to pump up his stock. Asesio acted like a prime beta this season

by The Demon of Carthage Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:19 pm

Thimmy wrote:No chance in hell is this true.

180m

That agent has no shame.

by futbol_bill Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:28 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Not sure that i understand your point, are you trying to predict what the signings will be? that's a waste of time because you simply will never know.

When we mentioned Ndombele and Mendy, it's because those are the type of moves we want to see. Team needs an overhaul, stronger players need to come in to compete with the players already at the club.

My point was to bring players to REPLACE players who have been our weaknesses.

by Clutch Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:09 pm

Thimmy wrote:No chance in hell is this true.

imagine accepting 100 for Ronaldo but denying 180 for Asensio

by Clutch Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:10 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:In recent history we bought Modric, Kroos, Xabi, Khedira. All of these guys went straight into the starting XI.

Besides, this logic of using knowledge of prior purchasing is a bit faulty considering Zidane has more purchasing power than any manager bar Mourinho has in the past. If ZZ believes we needs these types of players like I think we do, and he has the money that I think he does, we will buy these types of players.

Ultimately, if the reports are to be trusted that we have about 300m + player sales, there are going to be about as many changes as we saw in 2009. So don't expect Fede to be starting next season.

yea you're right, if zidane is being in charge of who he wants

by Hapless_Hans Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:06 pm

Think Real 19/20 will line up like this

Benzema
Hazard
Theo Pogba Casemiro Vasquez
Marcelo Ramos Varane Carvajal
Navas

by Mr Nick09 Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:07 pm

aight fam, imma rescind your invitation smdh

by Mr Nick09 Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:49 pm

Clutch wrote:Lmao @ ndombele and mendy. Why are they even being discussed? They're not coming here

this is why we talk about him :coffee:

Portada de @marca pic.twitter.com/oCYOi0jiVU
— Carlos Carpio (@Carpio_Marca) April 30, 2019

by Clutch Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:00 pm

Is this a Reliable source? This is my first time implementing a GL jinx so bear with me on this

by Thimmy Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:06 pm

Marca claim that we're linked to multiple, foreign players every single season, so it's hard to tell which ones are actually relevant.

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 01, 2019 12:00 am

This is relevant, article is dubbed by Carlos Carpios who is an assistant director at Marca, to my knowledge he is not bullshit artist. I would say in the realm of Madrid rumours this is near the top of well sourced info.

by Cyborg Wed May 01, 2019 2:44 am

come on madrid, get Van de Beek!

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 01, 2019 3:17 am

Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.

by Cyborg Wed May 01, 2019 12:47 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.

Completely different player.

His movement from midfield to in and around the box is excellent.

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm

Cyborg wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.

Completely different player.

His movement from midfield to in and around the box is excellent.

yes they are different but Can de Beek is having success being the CAM in a 4231, playing behind the striker. As you said he is having success because of his movements in and around the box.

1) we are already signing Hazard, thus it's redundant to look to sign him unless you have guarantees he can operate at a elite level deeper in midfield, there is no evidence of that.
2) he is a good player but to me he lacks the quality/talent to be a potential starter for us. He doesn't appear to be a great playmaker, not a great passer, not a great dribbler. He will make a team happy, I just don't think that will be us.

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 01, 2019 1:04 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Clutch wrote:Lmao @ ndombele and mendy. Why are they even being discussed? They're not coming here
this is why we talk about him

Portada de @marca pic.twitter.com/oCYOi0jiVU
— Carlos Carpio (@Carpio_Marca) April 30, 2019

Spanish Madrid fans have their panty in a bunch because of this news, for what it means for Reguillon, going away on loan most likely.

I understand, he deserves to stay given how he played this season, but he is an effort guy, I am not sure there is enough raw material to make an elite fullback.

by sportsczy Wed May 01, 2019 1:53 pm

We're NOT playing a 4231. You guys need to get that notion out of your head.

by Cyborg Wed May 01, 2019 2:09 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Cyborg wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.

Completely different player.

His movement from midfield to in and around the box is excellent.
yes they are different but Can de Beek is having success being the CAM in a 4231, playing behind the striker. As you said he is having success because of his movements in and around the box.

1) we are already signing Hazard, thus it's redundant to look to sign him unless you have guarantees he can operate at a elite level deeper in midfield, there is no evidence of that.
2) he is a good player but to me he lacks the quality/talent to be a potential starter for us. He doesn't appear to be a great playmaker, not a great passer, not a great dribbler. He will make a team happy, I just don't think that will be us.

In terms of a complete midfielder, he ticks the boxes. He may not be a specialist at one skillset, but he is great at everything.

He plays as a midfielder. The team doesn't need any more deep midfielders. That has been the issue, all the midfielders in the squad are hesitant when going forward.

Signing Hazard does not improve the midfield. Don't know why that is being cited.

by VanDeezNuts Wed May 01, 2019 2:42 pm

So if you want van de Beek in the midfield role the question is then: would you sign van de Beek over Eriksen (who we have supposedly agreed verbal terms) or Pogba, or Ndombele?

No.

I like van de Beek, but he doesn't fit the profile of player we need. He is great on Fifa I am sure after a couple seasons but in reality he's just not near enough to the top of our list of needs.

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