Re: El Clasico 16/17 Thread

by VanDeezNuts Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:26 pm

This has Barca bounce back written all over it. RM are in good form but a few key losses namely Bale and Kroos will be too many changes for ZZ to manage.

Casemiro would be a great addition, but he has zero match fitness- we haven't seen him play a single minute in months. Coming back and starting (as ZZ implies in his interviews) v Barca is too soon.

by futbol_bill Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:50 pm

I really doubt if Casemiro will start, I can see him as a sub (for Isco) if Madrid takes an early lead.

Similarly, I doubt Iniesta starts for much of the same reason.

Today's copa games will give them both a chance to see how their match fitness is.

by halamadrid2 Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:19 pm

Casemiro is starting the Cops game today whereas Iniesta is suspended for Barca's iirc

by Myesyats Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:41 pm

yeah, Iniesta is suspended but he's been training at 100% for the past week

This clasico will be very interesting.

by futbol_bill Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:42 pm

With way Isco and Casemiro are playing today, I would like to see 4 in midfield (Isco, Kova, Modric and Casemiro) leaving Lucas as a sub. IMO that lineup gives Madrid control of midfield, but I think Zidane will stick to the 4-3-3 which means either Isco or Casemiro will start on bench!

As for James starting LOL. Have you watched him lately? He not only is behind Lucas, Asensio, Isco, after today's invisible performance he is also behind Odegaard!

by RealGunner Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:46 pm

Isco has to start with the form he has been in.

by The Demon of Carthage Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:00 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:He's not on his list because Barcelona are undefeated under Gomez's order. They have never lost a game with him in charge. The referee himself is despised by a big portion of the Madrid fanbase because he made many controversial decisions against Madrid in the past.

I don't agree with them, though. I think mistakes are part of the game and referees make them all the time. It doesn't mean they're intentionally favoring someone over someone else. All we can do, as fans, is hope not to be on the receiving end of those mistakes when they happen.

And even if this referee had pro-Barcelona leanings, I don't think he would be dumb enough to intentionally favor Barcelona now where the suspicions are at their highest.

I hope you realise you are far too sensible

It's almost like referees are humans and make mistakes ( ones that are bad at their job more so)

Maybe I didn't articulate my thought well enough, I apologize. I only meant that we shouldn't blame the referees or accuse them of anything as long as we don't have proof. That, and also refereeing mistakes happen in football all the time. Sometimes they can even give the victory to the undeserving side, but that doesn't mean that the referee is corrupt.

by Lucifer Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:26 pm

Zidane: "We have studied barca, they have no weakness". More vague statement than, Hawking claiming "I have studied physics, there is no gravity". Stahp dem poor jinx attempts, beloved Zizou.

by rincon Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:43 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Doc wrote:Yeah, Spain is rather unique where someone in a position of real importance in the football governing body (the President) would say they want one side to win over the other. If anyone has any similar examples, please feel free to share it with the class.

Spain may have an outspoken Real fan as president of the league association, who doesn't disguise his preference.

In Germany, the equivalent official, the DFL president, is in fact Rauball, the president of BVB, himself.
That's as if Uncle Flo himself was LFP president

Same in Italy, Galliani is the vice president of lega serie a. You also have Lotito (Lazio's president) in the FIGC.

by Doc Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:02 pm

How are those two examples not considered conflicts of interest?

by halamadrid2 Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:42 am

Real Madrid have never beaten Barca at the Camp Nou back to back.

Congratulations Barca for winning this game. We tried to compete.....

by Jay29 Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:05 pm

Madrid team:

Navas; Carvajal, Varane, Ramos, Marcelo; Vazquez, Modric, Kovacic, Isco; Ronaldo, Benzema

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:06 pm

Vazquez ffs. Glad Isco is starting.

Very much a narrow 4-4-2. Good formation. Midfield needs to performs.

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:09 pm

Barcelona XI Ter Stegen, Piqué, Rakitic, Sergio, Suarez, Messi, Neymar, Mascherano, Alba, Roberto, Gomes

No Iniesta. Madrid need to finish the job before he comes on.

by Myesyats Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:13 pm

Worried about that right side with Roberto Neutral

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:14 pm

Think that's why Gomes is starting so he can cover him up.

by Myesyats Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:17 pm

I'd prefer Masch at RB and Umtiti in the centre

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:53 pm

This match better deliver.

Still pissed Sky aren't showing this.

by Harmonica Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:54 pm

Atm football 2 - 0 corruption today, lets see if corruption can equalize. Houses are on the line. Mad

by Doc Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:56 pm

No Iniesta or Casemiro. Figures they weren't match ready.

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:58 pm

Was a risk starting Casemiro anyways.

by Harmonica Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:00 pm

Fraudnaldo discovered.
Uefacity gangbanged.
Refdrid?

Can it be 3/3 for football today? Getting scared of for my house tbh. hmm

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:01 pm

Just watch the match you pleb

by guest7 Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:04 pm

our first loss of the season incoming

gomes motm

by Harmonica Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:05 pm

Please Gomes is Fraudnaldo mole, sucking the life out of us.

by RealGunner Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:07 pm

Yea but with the amount of times we have all shat on Gomes, he is bound to score from 60 yards today.

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