Re: How can racism be dealt with once and for all?

by Donuts Wed 7 May 2014 - 6:23

deducting points for racist "fans" is too much
and if it happens i can expect to see some rival fans dressing and acting racist to deduct points from said club.

by Lord Spencer Wed 7 May 2014 - 17:56

Exactly, Ultras would gather and pretend their rival team's fans to dock them points.

Hell, the league will be decided by who has the most far reaching fans (with unscrupulous moral behavior).

by Onyx Wed 7 May 2014 - 18:14

The Spanish League (LFP) has handed Villarreal a fine of 12,000 euros ($16,000) after one of the club's supporters threw a banana at Barcelona's Dani Alves in a recent game at El Madrigal.

El Submarino Amarillo could have been hit with a stadium ban but the LFP have reportedly chosen instead to impose a fine, with the EFE news agency claiming Villarreal sources confirmed the figure was 12,000 euros.

http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1812085/report-villarreal-fined-%E2%82%AC12k-dani-alves-banana-incident?cc=5739

by The_Badger Wed 7 May 2014 - 18:17

Le Samourai wrote:Deduct 3 points from Atletico pls.

A fair sanction

Should start punishing Real Madrid too for their racist fans.

by Onyx Sun 11 May 2014 - 22:22

AC Milan players had bananas thrown at them during a 2-1 defeat at Atalanta.

Guinea international Kevin Constant and Netherlands midfielder Nigel de Jong picked up two bananas thrown onto the pitch, while Milan players appeared to sarcastically applaud the home support.

Fans were warned the game would be suspended if there was a repeat.

"Whoever threw the banana on the pitch deserves to have a coconut thrown back at them," Atalanta boss Stefano Colantuono told Gazzetta dello Sport.

"They've ruined what was a great afternoon."

Philippe Mexes and Nigel de Jong, holding a banana, sarcastically applaud the Atalanta fans

Milan boss Clarence Seedorf said: "I hope they find the culprit and do what they have to do."

Constant was on the receiving end of racist abuse during a pre-season tournament match against fellow Serie A side Sassuolo in July.
On that occasion, the 27-year-old kicked the ball into the crowd and left the pitch. He was fined 3,000 euros (£2,500), with Sassuolo fined 10 times that amount.

Two weeks ago, Barcelona defender Dani Alves picked up and ate a banana thrown at him by a Villarreal fan.

Footballers worldwide showed their support for the Brazilian by posting pictures online of themselves eating bananas, while Villarreal were fined 12,000 euros (£9,850) by the Spanish Football Federation.
Milan's defeat in Bergamo hit their hopes of qualifying for next season's Europa League.

A Gianpaolo Bellini own goal after 51 minutes put the visitors ahead.
But German Denis equalised with a 68th-minute penalty after Constant fouled Carlos Carmona, shortly before the bananas were thrown onto the pitch.

Milan's Mario Balotelli hit the post late on before Franco Brienza's 25-yard strike flew into the top corner to clinch victory for Atalanta in the sixth minute of stoppage time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27363859

by The_Badger Sun 11 May 2014 - 22:53

Yohan Modric wrote:England doesn't have a problem with racism.

I doubt 'educating' fans will work. Not every fan is a kid in school. Drastic measures need to be taken in order to combat racism. If everyone keeps dithering and burying their heads in the sand, then nothing will ever be achieved.

There exists racism in the stands, not as bad as seen in places like Italy, Spain and Russia, but Millwall, Sheff Utd, West Ham, Spurs and Leeds have had issues with it in recent times. There also exists a lot of homophobia too, which seems to be overlooked.

by Onyx Wed 21 May 2014 - 18:03

Happened at Italy training:

https://www.youtube.com/v/ZhnnjHR92g8

by rwo power Fri 23 May 2014 - 2:48

Borussia Dortmund produced an Anti-Nazi video recently and put it onto their Website and Youtube:

Spoiler:

The motto is "Football and Nazis don't go together."

by Peccadillo Fri 23 May 2014 - 3:35

It will gradually fizzle out if we continue the same strategies tbh.
You mentioned a few english clubs but its not really that bad in England lets face it. A few "anti-semitic" chants aimed at spurs doesn't really compare with what goes on in many other countries.

In my opinion, people often seem to make the mistake of calling racism a problem in football.. when to me it really isnt and the level of racism in football is usually more of a reflection of a much larger societal segment. Often the lower socio-economic populations who are, as a generalisation, less educated.

So to answer the question, on a larger scale, continue to narrow the gap between the lower and upper classes, continue to educate kids on the matter in schools and give it time.
On a football scale, continue to allow such organisations as Kick It Out to operate to make it clear that football stadiums are no longer a platform for racist groups and individuals to spout their rubbish.

by gnrfan Fri 23 May 2014 - 5:00

simply that in paces like uk and us there a lot of black people, a lot of exposure, and locals see hey these guys are not so bad. not so in spain, italy etc

by Peccadillo Fri 23 May 2014 - 7:41

racism affects more than just black people..

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