Will Real Madrid suffer from the "Mou effect"?

Chelsea and Inter have struggled to cope with the Mourinho hangover. Chelsea have been through five managers in the four years since he left. Inter, evidently less patient, less picky, are already on their fourth.

Will Real Madrid be effected in a similar way by Mou's eventual departure in the same way Chelsea and Inter were? Is there any way to tell at this moment? Who do you think will do a good job of replacing Mou if he were to leave this summer (Hypothetical situation for discussion purposes)?

Short answer no. Simply because Madrid has achieved success despite chaos running the club on more than one occasion.

Plus we'll always be able to bolster the squad with transfers.

Yeah, use the search function, we have done that already.

short answer no. the OP has too many cliches to be honest, Chelsea didnt really suffer, and inter was already over the edge.

That will happen if the club cannot find an adequate replacement.

If Mou wins the CL and the league and the next manager suffers like they normally do after Mourinho because of the high expectations then the players will turn against him and that will continue until either those players are replaced or another manager wins them something important.

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:That will happen if the club cannot find an adequate replacement.

If Mou wins the CL and the league and the next manager suffers like they normally do after Mourinho because of the high expectations then the players will turn against him and that will continue until either those players are replaced or another manager wins them something important.

LOL That's every Real Madrid coach ever.

on the contrary, if Mourinho wins the CL and leaves, the next manager will have a great time, Less pressure from winning the decima. Expectation will only be to nurture our players and to maximize on the opportunity. our young crop of Ozil, benzema, Marcelo, Sahin, Di Maria, Ramos, Varane etc, are not even in their prime.

Zealous wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:That will happen if the club cannot find an adequate replacement.

If Mou wins the CL and the league and the next manager suffers like they normally do after Mourinho because of the high expectations then the players will turn against him and that will continue until either those players are replaced or another manager wins them something important.

LOL That's every Real Madrid coach ever.

Yeah you're right. A Madrid coach always has high expectations paced on him and the pressure mounts quickly. But if the above scenario happens then they'll be more pressure and even less patience from the players who'll keep referencing to Mou.

Madrid's squad is much deeper, and much younger. Compare the average age at Inter when Mourinho left and the average age at Madrid when Mourinho will probably depart. Also, Inter made an especially bad choice with Benitez, who picked the squad the least suited to play possession football to play possession football. Chances are, Madrid are not going to make such a bad choice of manager after Mourinho leaves, although with Florentino one never knows.

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

Zealous wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:That will happen if the club cannot find an adequate replacement.

If Mou wins the CL and the league and the next manager suffers like they normally do after Mourinho because of the high expectations then the players will turn against him and that will continue until either those players are replaced or another manager wins them something important.

LOL That's every Real Madrid coach ever.

Yeah you're right. A Madrid coach always has high expectations paced on him and the pressure mounts quickly. But if the above scenario happens then they'll be more pressure and even less patience from the players who'll keep referencing to Mou.

Again that's every single Real Madrid coach in every single season ever. Besides you're assuming our players are blindly loyal to Jose.

Don't get me wrong they like him a lot but unlike Lampard, Drogba, Terry, and the guys at Inter they can live without him.

So long as we keep up good results and the young players are nurtured well I don't expect to see any real collapse. That said I hope Jose stays here for a while yet.

So true, our players have definitely not been infected like the drogbas and cos. i mean, im sure they love him because you can tell he is fighting for them, but they wont be texting Mourinho when there is a new coach in madrid like Terry and lampard do LOL

Zealous wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

Zealous wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:That will happen if the club cannot find an adequate replacement.

If Mou wins the CL and the league and the next manager suffers like they normally do after Mourinho because of the high expectations then the players will turn against him and that will continue until either those players are replaced or another manager wins them something important.

LOL That's every Real Madrid coach ever.

Yeah you're right. A Madrid coach always has high expectations paced on him and the pressure mounts quickly. But if the above scenario happens then they'll be more pressure and even less patience from the players who'll keep referencing to Mou.

Again that's every single Real Madrid coach in every single season ever. Besides you're assuming our players are blindly loyal to Jose.

Don't get me wrong they like him a lot but unlike Lampard, Drogba, Terry, and the guys at Inter they can live without him.

So long as we keep up good results and the young players are nurtured well I don't expect to see any real collapse. That said I hope Jose stays here for a while yet.

I agree with you there, I don't think Madrid players are as loyal to him as his former players were, yet. But that is now, things might change if they have a very successful season which is when the bond might start.

If Madrid keep up good results past Mou then yes his loss won't be felt that much assuming Mou is successful, but if not then the squad might end up like a circus kind of like the Chelsea squad was. All assumptions at this point though, this thread should had been created after the end of the season.

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

Zealous wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

Zealous wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:That will happen if the club cannot find an adequate replacement.

If Mou wins the CL and the league and the next manager suffers like they normally do after Mourinho because of the high expectations then the players will turn against him and that will continue until either those players are replaced or another manager wins them something important.

LOL That's every Real Madrid coach ever.

Yeah you're right. A Madrid coach always has high expectations paced on him and the pressure mounts quickly. But if the above scenario happens then they'll be more pressure and even less patience from the players who'll keep referencing to Mou.

Again that's every single Real Madrid coach in every single season ever. Besides you're assuming our players are blindly loyal to Jose.

Don't get me wrong they like him a lot but unlike Lampard, Drogba, Terry, and the guys at Inter they can live without him.

So long as we keep up good results and the young players are nurtured well I don't expect to see any real collapse. That said I hope Jose stays here for a while yet.

I agree with you there, I don't think Madrid players are as loyal to him as his former players yet. But that is now, things might change if they have a very successful season which is when the bond might start.

If Madrid keep up good results past Mou then yes his loss won't be too much felt assuming Mou is successful, but if not then the squad might end up like a circus kind of like the Chelsea squad was. All assumptions at this point though, this thread might have been better created after the end of the season.

You make a good point. That can definitely happen, anyway we'll have to wait and see what happens. Like you said it's only assumptions at this point.

I don't even believe in a "Mou effect", there are perfectly valid reasons for the clubs he left falling to pieces after he left, and it was mostly easy to explain if you just had a look at the squads, whcih weren't rejuvenated and were never gonna last for long after he left.

Porto was still a decent side after he left, Chelsea didn't fall, they even reached a CL final and Inter's squad was simply too old and unmotivated to have any ambition after winning a treble. i don't see any Mou effect.

Apples and oranges. There is no such thin as mou effect in that manner, only uninformed people think other wise.

Inter's demise is not due to Mou's departure, though its a contributing factor, but when you sell your most effective players, buy the wrong replacements, hire the wrong coaches and constantly and force your system on them that team is bound to fail

That said the Mourinho effect is a reality, and im not just talking about players wanting to get in his pants, the man tactics are poisonous, his players are so immersed in his system that it's almost impossible to revert them once he leaves, and it's no coincidence that Chelsea won with Ancelotti who shares a similar coaching style with Jose

So I gathered Porto didnt suffer after Mouinho left...so its not always the case and more coincidence...

zizzle wrote:Inter's demise is not due to Mou's departure, though its a contributing factor, but when you sell your most effective players, buy the wrong replacements, hire the wrong coaches and constantly and force your system on them that team is bound to fail

That said the Mourinho effect is a reality, and im not just talking about players wanting to get in his pants, the man tactics are poisonous, his players are so immersed in his system that it's almost impossible to revert them once he leaves, and it's no coincidence that Chelsea won with Ancelotti who shares a similar coaching style with Jose

More like the player types he had at his disposal were better suited for a counter attack team
This has nothing to do with Mourinho If you have a squad with slow defender who can't pass to save their lives and no creative mid you can't paly possession footy a la Rafa

Mr Nick09 wrote:So true, our players have definitely not been infected like the drogbas and cos. i mean, im sure they love him because you can tell he is fighting for them, but they wont be texting Mourinho when there is a new coach in madrid like Terry and lampard do LOL

What's this BS. Infection? They're just players suited to counter attack system. They developed too big of an ego after Mou's departure. Where is his fault?
You claims become more ridiculious day by day.

Breaking news! Mourinho uses a vodoo doll to jinx the manager who takes over the jobs after him :lol!:

BarcaLearning wrote:So I gathered Porto didnt suffer after Mouinho left...so its not always the case and more coincidence...

Yes, they did. But it wasnt his fault. All the key players left.

Anyway, my guess would be no. They have a young core in place, unlike Inter or Chelsea.

No.

Mou is only helping Castilla, by giving debuts and trying to keep them from leaving. Contract renewals etc (Morata for example)

And our players are in their early prime. They will last awhile, we're probably the youngest team in CL.

Real Madrid has a squad that beats almost every team even without tactics, check the Pellegrini season. This team will keep playing at an immense level for years after Mourinho. He's just gotta make them beat Barca and end their fears.

there's no such thing as a mou effect really. it's just that he's one of the best managers so replacing him with someone on his level isn't easy. and chelsea and inter have suffered because of bad management decisions not because of mou

If you credit Mou for signing great players to help Chelsea and Inter win, you always have to say he didnt sign any young (25 and under) players which can carry them along in the future.

Im sorry, but its true. Its a fair criticism.

Mr Nick09 wrote:on the contrary, if Mourinho wins the CL and leaves, the next manager will have a great time, Less pressure from winning the decima. Expectation will only be to nurture our players and to maximize on the opportunity. our young crop of Ozil, benzema, Marcelo, Sahin, Di Maria, Ramos, Varane etc, are not even in their prime.

What??? You don't really believe this do you? You think if Mou wins the CL there will be less pressure on the next coach? This just isn't reality especially at Madrid.

Every coach at Madrid is expected to win either the league or the CL every year, if anything by judging by Madrid's standards Mou has gotten an easy run of it if you compare him to coach's in the past who have been fired even after winning trophies and beating Barca.

If Mou wins the CL the next coach will be expected to do the same and if he goes trophyless or wins the Copa like Mou did last year he will be fired because he will be deemed to have failed with a CL winning caliber team.

I mean teams expectations don't goes down after winning big trophies, look at Inter it took no time at all to sack Benitez, Barca sacked Rijkaard after great CL wining seasons, Bayern fired Van Gaal a year after his great run, Chelsea got rid of Ancelotti after doing the double and so on and so on.

What your suggesting just isn't reality at a big club especially your club.

Immortal Babun wrote:
What's this BS. Infection? They're just players suited to counter attack system. They developed too big of an ego after Mou's departure. Where is his fault?
You claims become more ridiculious day by day.

Breaking news! Mourinho uses a vodoo doll to jinx the manager who takes over the jobs after him :lol!:

you dont understand. Guys like Lampard, Terry and Drogba have developped a ridiculous bond with Mourinho, a bond that is still very present to this day as they are in contact virtually everyweek. It's not my invention it's a fact. And im also pretty sure that he hasnt developped that kind of bond with our players, certainly not with our captains lol.