Pre El Classico Debate: How much Barca/Real squads are stronger than the rest of teams?

Individually, tactically, chemistry-wise and lineups.

For instance, my opinion is that Barcelona's 2011-2012 weakness is in its wingers and collective defending, not forgetting Valdez. Being picky, yes. Those flaws that include Abidal mispositioning, Alves defensive inferiority, and recent inefficteveness of Villa/Sanchez is the key to beating them. I bet Bayern and MU (just took them as example) can crack them and drive them to the limit unlike in previous years. Maybe exaggerating, but Barcelona this season is exposed time after time. They still have it, but now they need to find ways of improving aka raising standard, as other teams adapted to it and improved as well. No more pushovers. Burger King Disaster might not be only one.

What happened to boring Barca-Madrid threads?

EarlyPrototype wrote:What happened to boring Barca-Madrid threads?

LMFAO

was going to post exactly this

This isnt Barca vs Real

Just give it some time….

Grande_Milano fails and manages to troll himself, grandiose sir

Starting 11 wise, by not too much.

When you add in depth they rape everyone else, though.

We draw against them in Barcelona and los 2-3 with an own goal and false penalty in Milan in no point game. No rape.

Without best Milan player Wesley Sneijder.

Best Real/Barca team

valdes
alves-pique-pepe-coentrao
xavi-busquets-iniesta
-benzema-messi-ronaldo-

sry didn't know there was already a thread about the classico!

A full strength Bayern is better than both, though they have slightly better depth. But other than that, these 3 slightly edge out United, then theres teams like City, Chelsea, Milan, Dortmund, and Juve. Theres a slight, but noticeable edge between each tier. Tho there are exceptions to this, such as Citys crushing of United, butthen again City has a viable argument to be in the same tier as United.

Grande_Milano wrote:Individually, tactically, chemistry-wise and lineups.

For instance, my opinion is that Barcelona's 2011-2012 weakness is in its wingers and collective defending, not forgetting Valdez. Being picky, yes. Those flaws that include Abidal mispositioning, Alves defensive inferiority, and recent inefficteveness of Villa/Sanchez is the key to beating them. I bet Bayern and MU (just took them as example) can crack them and drive them to the limit unlike in previous years. Maybe exaggerating, but Barcelona this season is exposed time after time. They still have it, but now they need to find ways of improving aka raising standard, as other teams adapted to it and improved as well. No more pushovers. Burger King Disaster might not be only one.

Please number the amount of times Barca lost a game this season please. This is the weakest Barca team in a while, but only due to temporary cases of form. The class is still there.

Your assertion of the bad "collective defense" and the weaknesses of the FBs is completely outdated.

The fact of the matter is that Barca are still a class above everyone else, except maybe Real.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Grande_Milano wrote:Individually, tactically, chemistry-wise and lineups.

For instance, my opinion is that Barcelona's 2011-2012 weakness is in its wingers and collective defending, not forgetting Valdez. Being picky, yes. Those flaws that include Abidal mispositioning, Alves defensive inferiority, and recent inefficteveness of Villa/Sanchez is the key to beating them. I bet Bayern and MU (just took them as example) can crack them and drive them to the limit unlike in previous years. Maybe exaggerating, but Barcelona this season is exposed time after time. They still have it, but now they need to find ways of improving aka raising standard, as other teams adapted to it and improved as well. No more pushovers. Burger King Disaster might not be only one.

Please number the amount of times Barca lost a game this season please. This is the weakest Barca team in a while, but only due to temporary cases of form. The class is still there.

Your assertion of the bad "collective defense" and the weaknesses of the FBs is completely outdated.

The fact of the matter is that Barca are still a class above everyone else, except maybe Real.

I ve probably been deceived but recent match v Milan I ve seen:

-weak defending, I havent seen Barca being torn and thats with Robinho 4th choice striker.
-Milan and Barca didnt push themselves to full limit, put energy in, but felt like had smth in hand. Esp with all these chances wasted, and Milan isnt strongest opponent you gonna meet this year.

everyone is shit compared to real madrid and barcelona...

FACT

this doesnt even deserve thread.

manure? milan city bayern?