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Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Superstone Mariomintsch on Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:27 am

Different base-position? Doesn't matter as they are both no.7-wearer who has a knack of scoring beautiful goals after cutting inside, comfortable with the ball, and have excellent scoring record. Just who is better up till now?

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Raptorgunner on Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:19 am

I am going with CR7, one of kind. Very Happy

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Superstone Mariomintsch on Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:31 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:I am going with CR7, one of kind. Very Happy


Very Happy, Both won one Ballon D'or my friend. You love Henry as he is both scary and pleasing on the eye right. Well, for me Sheva was better to watch and he absolutely terrorized the giants of Serie A (very strong at that time) and Europe in his grandest period 2002-2006. banana

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by giovanni_milan on Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:18 am

sheva for me

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Jack Daniels on Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:59 am

I'll state some facts here to help you guys decide. albino

Cristiano Ronaldo (Age 26) :

Sporting : 31 apps 5 goals
Man Utd : 292 apps 118 goals
Real Madrid : 103 apps 98 goals <- ffs

total : 426 apps 221 goals

Andriy Shevchenko (age 35) :

Dynamo Kiev : 238 apps 122 goals
Milan (2nd stint included) : 322 apps 175 goals
Chelsea 77 apps 22 goals

Total : 637 apps 319 goals


Trophies :

Cristiano Ronaldo

Premier League - 3
FA cup - 1
League Cup - 2
FA community Shield - 1
Champions League - 1
Club world Cup - 1
Copa Del Rey - 1

Total : 10

Andriy Shevchenko

Ukranian Premier League - 5
Ukranian Cup - 3
Ukranian Super Cup - 1
Serie A - 1
Coppa Italia - 1
Supercoppa Italiana - 1
Champions League - 1
UEFA Super Cup - 1
FA Cup - 1
League Cup - 1

Total : 16

Both won the Ballon D'or once

Cristiano won the FIFA WPOY once, Andriy managed third on their Ballon D'or Season.




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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by JuvenelCuore on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:01 am

Look who was playing during Shevchenko's era v. Cristiano Ronaldo's.

Football has declined, that is a reality. :coffee:

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by mzamani on Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:48 pm

Shevchenko is still the most overrated player of the last decade imv. of all the players who have won ballon D ors who i have seen play (since 2002), he is the one who should not have won lol. only people who rate him are those who are Serie A fans. says a lot imv.

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by ErPupone on Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:13 pm

mzamani wrote:Shevchenko is still the most overrated player of the last decade imv. of all the players who have won ballon D ors who i have seen play (since 2002), he is the one who should not have won lol. only people who rate him are those who are Serie A fans. says a lot imv.


Or maybe the only people who don't rate him are those who are EPL fans...

Shevchenko was great until he hit that 30 year old mark, where injuries started plaguing him, and he happened to be at Chelsea at that time. Says a lot too doesn't it? lol.

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Arquitecto on Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:28 pm

mzamani wrote:Shevchenko is still the most overrated player of the last decade imv. of all the players who have won ballon D ors who i have seen play (since 2002), he is the one who should not have won lol. only people who rate him are those who are Serie A fans. says a lot imv.


Overated??? LOL

I'd like to hear you justify your rather bold and to be honest, ridiculous statement.

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Grande_Milano on Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:11 pm

Well, its true his Balon D Or is debatable. But, as I said he won it when nobody was up to the challenge, kinda like Keegan's 2 awards. Deco did not stand out at Porto as a sole star, Ronaldinho was up and coming, so Sheva just filled the place. If not for that Depor stupid lose, we would ve had Porto, Chelsea, Monaco to beat: not scary opponents if you ask me.

And, Owen's and Messi 2010 award are more debatable.

I rate Sheva a bit under Henry's level, both are better than CR version "PRESENT TIME".

Another thing: football declined, its less competitive, mid teams have gone downhill, hell a lot of top teams went down.



So, judging this minute, this second, Sheva, Henry, Del Piero, Raul>CR



But, CR is young, consistant and has a very, very good chance of overtaking them.


Just my opinion

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Seth on Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:48 am

Got to be Sheva.... Terrorised Serie-A during it's strongest period in the 2000s...


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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by StevieRayVaughan on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:05 am

Grande_Milano wrote:Well, its true his Balon D Or is debatable. But, as I said he won it when nobody was up to the challenge, kinda like Keegan's 2 awards. Deco did not stand out at Porto as a sole star, Ronaldinho was up and coming, so Sheva just filled the place. If not for that Depor stupid lose, we would ve had Porto, Chelsea, Monaco to beat: not scary opponents if you ask me.

And, Owen's and Messi 2010 award are more debatable.

I rate Sheva a bit under Henry's level, both are better than CR version "PRESENT TIME".

Another thing: football declined, its less competitive, mid teams have gone downhill, hell a lot of top teams went down.



So, judging this minute, this second, Sheva, Henry, Del Piero, Raul>CR



But, CR is young, consistant and has a very, very good chance of overtaking them.


Just my opinion



I sometimes wonder, do people actually believe in what they write?

Alongside Raul and Henry, Sheva is probably one of the best European strikers of the decade. But he is no where close to Ronaldo's level in terms of consistency, goal scoring, ..just about anything maybe apart from finishing ( still debatable).

Sheva ( even in his prime) would need atleast 170/250 ( or even more) games to score around 98 goals. Ronaldo was consistent in Spain and England, the two best league in the world right now, it doesn't matter whether you like that fact or not.

Sheva's class personality on the other hand is way above Ronaldo. In terms of pure footballing reasons, Ronaldo is heaps and bounds above Sheva.


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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by StevieRayVaughan on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:09 am

Jack Daniels wrote:I'll state some facts here to help you guys decide. albino

Cristiano Ronaldo (Age 26) :

Sporting : 31 apps 5 goals
Man Utd : 292 apps 118 goals
Real Madrid : 103 apps 98 goals <- ffs

total : 426 apps 221 goals

Andriy Shevchenko (age 35) :

Dynamo Kiev : 238 apps 122 goals
Milan (2nd stint included) : 322 apps 175 goals
Chelsea 77 apps 22 goals

Total : 637 apps 319 goals


Trophies :

Cristiano Ronaldo

Premier League - 3
FA cup - 1
League Cup - 2
FA community Shield - 1
Champions League - 1
Club world Cup - 1
Copa Del Rey - 1

Total : 10

Andriy Shevchenko

Ukranian Premier League - 5
Ukranian Cup - 3
Ukranian Super Cup - 1
Serie A - 1
Coppa Italia - 1
Supercoppa Italiana - 1
Champions League - 1
UEFA Super Cup - 1
FA Cup - 1
League Cup - 1

Total : 16

Both won the Ballon D'or once

Cristiano won the FIFA WPOY once, Andriy managed third on their Ballon D'or Season.






Absolutely no point for these stats, because people who are here to vote for Sheva or against Ronaldo are doing purely for either their love for Sheva ( understandable) or hate for Ronaldo. Therefore, both those parties will conveniently avoid the stats and cover them up with excuses.

This is not to hate on Sheva who I think is a brilliant player, and deserves every respect. However, he is being compared to someone who is a lot better than him in "almost" every aspect.

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Grande_Milano on Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:19 am

And you missed the point of ''football has declined". Anybody on these forums believe that football is same strong as it was? hahaha

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by ErPupone on Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:48 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:And you missed the point of ''football has declined". Anybody on these forums believe that football is same strong as it was? hahaha


Sadly

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Lord Hades on Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:05 pm

on this forum: serie a declines, hence football declines.. never minds the talents coming in at break neck pace from spain,germany, south america, even england producing some gems

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by Grande_Milano on Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:13 pm

lets see:

Arsenal till 2006 and now
Liverpool till 2008 and now
Juve till 2006 and now
Milan till 2007 and now
Mou's Chelsea


Heck yea, Serie A

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Re: Andriy Shevchenko vs Cristiano Ronaldo

Post by mzamani on Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:07 am

Just because your team is no longer as good as it was, or that there are more competition for your team does not mean football has declined. i am pretty much sure if Shevchenko peaked now would not be better than he was. still though, i stand by my point, the most overrated striker of the last decade. his Ballon D Or was\is a joke to me.

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