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Analysis on passing of Sahin
Nuri Şahin was voted the best player of the first half of the Bundesliga season by his fellow players and he is the favourite to win the overall player of the year award. In this post I take a closer look at his passing using statistics gathered from the official Bundesliga website.
Şahin has been one of the most active passers in the league, as far as I can tell only Bastian Schweinsteiger and Philipp Lahm have attempted more passes. With 1803 total passes he has attempted almost 400 more passes than any other Dortmund player, and adjusted for playing minutes he has contributed 14.9% of Dortmund’s total passes, which puts him up there with the likes of Cesc Fabregas and Paul Scholes in terms of what percentage of a team’s passes a player contributes.
On average Şahin completed 47/62 passes per 90 minutes. For the above graph I took the four match rolling averages of successful and attempted passes to see how those figures have fluctuated over the season. As you can see both have stayed roughly constant, his successful passes fluctuating between 40-50 and his attempted passes between 55-70. Note that in this and in all future graphs I omitted his last match against Freiburg because he only played 28 minutes.
To get a more accurate sense of his passing I separated his passes into forward, sideways and backwards passes both in the opponent’s half and his own.
Of his passes 49.6% were in the opponent’s half, 50.4% in his own. Of his passes in the opponent’s half 63.8% were forward passes, 20.9% sideways passes and 15.3% backwards passes. Of his passes in his own half 59.1% were forward passes, 20.2% sideways passes and 20.7% backwards passes. To look at how those numbers fluctuated over the season I again took the four match rolling averages.
After an early increase in his percentage of forward passes both in the opponent’s half and his own, and a corresponding small dip in the percentage of sideways and backwards passes, his passing direction percentages stayed roughly constant until there was another small increase in forward passing in his last few matches. It is clear from these graphs that he is not content to simply pass the ball sideways and backwards, instead he looks to play the ball forward whenever possible.
The accuracy of his different passes and the total number of successful/attempted passes of each kind are summarised in the following table. The graphs show the fluctuation over the season.
Opp Half | Frwd Pass | 63.3% | 361/570
Opp Half | Side Pass | 85.6% | 160/187
Opp Half | Back Pass | 96.4% | 132/137
Own Half | Frwd Pass | 65.6% | 352/537
Own Half | Side Pass | 92.9% | 171/184
Own Half | Back Pass | 95.2% | 179/188
According to the data he misplaced about one-third of his forward passes. While this is an area he could look to improve it is not necessarily a bad thing. From watching almost every match he has played this season I can say that his first instinct is always to look for the ambitious, forward option, and for a playmaker this is a good thing because the way you create chances is not by playing it safely, it is by taking calculated risks and playing those difficult but potentially highly rewarding passes. The most creative players and the players with the highest assist counts often have below average attacking third pass completion rates and as long as Şahin is creating a lot of chances it seems to me like his lower pass completion rate is a trade-off worth making.
So does he create a lot of chances? Yes, he absolutely does. His 3.61 key passes per match is not only best in the league but according to the data from WhoScored.com also the best in any of the top five European leagues. Below are lists of the top chance creators in the Bundesliga and in all of Europe.
Nuri Şahin 3,61
Christian Tiffert 3,13
Diego 2,81
Mario Götze 2,67
Arjen Robben 2,36
Tamas Hajnal 2,33
Marco Reus 2,31
Mehmet Ekici 2,25
Franck Ribery 2,22
Juan Arango 2,05
–
Nuri Şahin 3,61
Andrea Cossu 3,48
Mesut Özil 3,35
Christian Tiffert 3,13
Francesco Totti 3,04
Florent Malouda 3,03
Duda 3,00
Nene 2,90
Wesley Sneijder 2,88
Cesc Fabregas 2,83
Diego 2,81
David Pizarro 2,78
Mario Götze 2,67
So far I have only discussed Şahin’s passing in open play but he also takes corners and free kicks.
This season Şahin has taken 114 corners of which 6 were taken short. Of the 108 that were delivered straight into the penalty area 41 found a teammate, a success rate of 38.0%. He also took 86 free kicks of which 72 were crossed into the penalty area. Of those 27 found a teammate for a success rate of 37.5%. Combining his corners, free kicks and crosses from open play overall he delivered 211 crosses with a success rate of 37.4%.
In a future post I may look at his shooting, dribbling and defensive work, but for now hopefully this post has provided some insight into what kind of player, and specifically what kind of passer, Nuri Şahin is.
Şahin has been one of the most active passers in the league, as far as I can tell only Bastian Schweinsteiger and Philipp Lahm have attempted more passes. With 1803 total passes he has attempted almost 400 more passes than any other Dortmund player, and adjusted for playing minutes he has contributed 14.9% of Dortmund’s total passes, which puts him up there with the likes of Cesc Fabregas and Paul Scholes in terms of what percentage of a team’s passes a player contributes.
On average Şahin completed 47/62 passes per 90 minutes. For the above graph I took the four match rolling averages of successful and attempted passes to see how those figures have fluctuated over the season. As you can see both have stayed roughly constant, his successful passes fluctuating between 40-50 and his attempted passes between 55-70. Note that in this and in all future graphs I omitted his last match against Freiburg because he only played 28 minutes.
To get a more accurate sense of his passing I separated his passes into forward, sideways and backwards passes both in the opponent’s half and his own.
Of his passes 49.6% were in the opponent’s half, 50.4% in his own. Of his passes in the opponent’s half 63.8% were forward passes, 20.9% sideways passes and 15.3% backwards passes. Of his passes in his own half 59.1% were forward passes, 20.2% sideways passes and 20.7% backwards passes. To look at how those numbers fluctuated over the season I again took the four match rolling averages.
After an early increase in his percentage of forward passes both in the opponent’s half and his own, and a corresponding small dip in the percentage of sideways and backwards passes, his passing direction percentages stayed roughly constant until there was another small increase in forward passing in his last few matches. It is clear from these graphs that he is not content to simply pass the ball sideways and backwards, instead he looks to play the ball forward whenever possible.
The accuracy of his different passes and the total number of successful/attempted passes of each kind are summarised in the following table. The graphs show the fluctuation over the season.
Opp Half | Frwd Pass | 63.3% | 361/570
Opp Half | Side Pass | 85.6% | 160/187
Opp Half | Back Pass | 96.4% | 132/137
Own Half | Frwd Pass | 65.6% | 352/537
Own Half | Side Pass | 92.9% | 171/184
Own Half | Back Pass | 95.2% | 179/188
According to the data he misplaced about one-third of his forward passes. While this is an area he could look to improve it is not necessarily a bad thing. From watching almost every match he has played this season I can say that his first instinct is always to look for the ambitious, forward option, and for a playmaker this is a good thing because the way you create chances is not by playing it safely, it is by taking calculated risks and playing those difficult but potentially highly rewarding passes. The most creative players and the players with the highest assist counts often have below average attacking third pass completion rates and as long as Şahin is creating a lot of chances it seems to me like his lower pass completion rate is a trade-off worth making.
So does he create a lot of chances? Yes, he absolutely does. His 3.61 key passes per match is not only best in the league but according to the data from WhoScored.com also the best in any of the top five European leagues. Below are lists of the top chance creators in the Bundesliga and in all of Europe.
Nuri Şahin 3,61
Christian Tiffert 3,13
Diego 2,81
Mario Götze 2,67
Arjen Robben 2,36
Tamas Hajnal 2,33
Marco Reus 2,31
Mehmet Ekici 2,25
Franck Ribery 2,22
Juan Arango 2,05
–
Nuri Şahin 3,61
Andrea Cossu 3,48
Mesut Özil 3,35
Christian Tiffert 3,13
Francesco Totti 3,04
Florent Malouda 3,03
Duda 3,00
Nene 2,90
Wesley Sneijder 2,88
Cesc Fabregas 2,83
Diego 2,81
David Pizarro 2,78
Mario Götze 2,67
So far I have only discussed Şahin’s passing in open play but he also takes corners and free kicks.
This season Şahin has taken 114 corners of which 6 were taken short. Of the 108 that were delivered straight into the penalty area 41 found a teammate, a success rate of 38.0%. He also took 86 free kicks of which 72 were crossed into the penalty area. Of those 27 found a teammate for a success rate of 37.5%. Combining his corners, free kicks and crosses from open play overall he delivered 211 crosses with a success rate of 37.4%.
In a future post I may look at his shooting, dribbling and defensive work, but for now hopefully this post has provided some insight into what kind of player, and specifically what kind of passer, Nuri Şahin is.
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he has 85 overall on fifa 12
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You're god like Adit, I love you (no homo) His ambitious passes forward play a key role in 4-2-3-1. I'll tell you the rest in your other thread
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ZsG7 wrote:he has 85 overall on fifa 12
Thank you for this!!!!
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what a disgrace.. they make benz look like an idiot.. 84 compared to villa's 92?'ZsG7 wrote:he has 85 overall on fifa 12
great job fifa.
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The Madrid One wrote:what a disgrace.. they make benz look like an idiot.. 84 compared to villa's 92?'ZsG7 wrote:he has 85 overall on fifa 12
great job fifa.
No way Villa is 92, compared to Benz and Ozil's 80-ish ratings, thats just absurd, he's as good as Ronaldo ffs...
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interesting analysis thanks for it.
OT: özil should also be way faster, 83 acceleration and 75 sprint speed what the *bleep*
OT: özil should also be way faster, 83 acceleration and 75 sprint speed what the *bleep*
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The Madrid One wrote:what a disgrace.. they make benz look like an idiot.. 84 compared to villa's 92?'ZsG7 wrote:he has 85 overall on fifa 12
great job fifa.
Cheer up at lest Higuain is 85
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Cossu > Ozil
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gtfo trollRossoneri Ninja wrote:Cossu > Ozil
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The xcx wrote:gtfo trollRossoneri Ninja wrote:Cossu > Ozil
why so hostile, its clear from the stat's that Cossu made more telling passes than Ozil last year, or do you want to dispute clear statistical evidence?
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Rossoneri Ninja wrote:The xcx wrote:gtfo trollRossoneri Ninja wrote:Cossu > Ozil
why so hostile, its clear from the stat's that Cossu made more telling passes than Ozil last year, or do you want to dispute clear statistical evidence?
OMG, taking the statistics a bit too literally there chap. Andrea Cossu, in a worse league by far (troll ), also did not play (and create chances) in the Champions League because Cagliari are shiiite. GTFO troll
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I don't know guys Cossu is pretty good.
Trolololol
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why do footballers have so strange names?? whats a cossu?Rossoneri Ninja wrote:Cossu > Ozil
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Ive never heard of this Cossu guy, yet hes better passer than Özil, yearight.
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Nuri Şahin 3,61
Andrea Cossu 3,48
So Sahin > Cossu
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You know this thread is actually very awkwardly named... at first I thought he had died.
"passing of"...
"passing of"...
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who cares about a name anyway,what matters is the content.Giovanni10 wrote:You know this thread is actually very awkwardly named... at first I thought he had died.
"passing of"...
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omarish wrote:Nuri Şahin 3,61
Andrea Cossu 3,48
So Sahin > Cossu
touche...
OMG, taking the statistics a bit too literally there chap. Andrea Cossu, in a worse league by far (troll ), also did not play (and create chances) in the Champions League because Cagliari are shiiite. GTFO troll
Sahin played in a worse league ( La Liga, Epl > ) also he did not create chances in the CL , so according to your own argument Sahin statistics means nothing...
Either both are good playmakers, passer or neither of them are.....
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well,statistically speaking bundesliga >>>>Series A any way.
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Adit wrote:well,statistically speaking bundesliga >>>>Series A any way.
That is so irrelevant , but also so damaging at the same time.. well played. I will disperse now..
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hows that irrelevent when you are the one first used that "weak league" comparison and you are the one using statistic to say caccu >>>sahin?Rossoneri Ninja wrote:Adit wrote:well,statistically speaking bundesliga >>>>Series A any way.
That is so irrelevant , but also so damaging at the same time.. well played. I will disperse now..
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Sahin played in a worse league ( La Liga, Epl > ) also he did not create chances in the CL , so according to your own argument Sahin statistics means nothing...
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