Re: Marvin Martin is overrated

by Mr Nick09 Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:15 pm

Arquitecto wrote:Knee jerk thread is knee jerk.

isn't this Martin's first NT app?

Besides, he still has the potential to be pulling the strings for France.

One of my favs as Arsenal need to pick him up in Jan

not really, maybe 4th or 5th and his first average performance.

by julias Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:17 pm

wow the pitch was that bad loool

by Guest Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:17 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Knee jerk thread is knee jerk.

isn't this Martin's first NT app?

Besides, he still has the potential to be pulling the strings for France.

One of my favs as Arsenal need to pick him up in Jan

not really, maybe 4th or 5th and his first average performance.

You can't really blame him tonight Nick. It was a minefield out there. None of the technical players did anything because they couldn't. In fact, nobody could even make runs because it was impossible to push off or stop... any pressure on that field and you had a hole lol.

by Babun Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:27 pm

sportsczy wrote:Oh please. He played on a potato field where nobody could string two passes together. In fact, players were afraid to make runs because the turf would lift = injury risk. The whole team was static. The only thing that worked here and there was Evra and Ribery doing really short passing on the left wing... Evra almost killed himself doing it actually as his ankle got stuck in the turf during a tackle. Impossible for the truly technical players to even try anything as you saw with Martin and Benz... you couldn't change directions on that field. Speed wing players were the only guys who had any chance.

Benz was ok, he tried his utmost Very Happy

I'm not belittling him because he didn't assist or score. He didn't do anything. His first touch was meh, didn't offer himself for passes properly = crap positioning. When he was double marked he had to move to the flanks or take the markers away with him to make space for others. What did he do? He was ball watching... When you can't play over the field you cross, chip or move the ball other wise. He didn't do any of those Very Happy

Arquitecto wrote:Knee jerk thread is knee jerk.

isn't this Martin's first NT app?

Besides, he still has the potential to be pulling the strings for France.

One of my favs as Arsenal need to pick him up in Jan

Not his first appearance,he featured as a sub before quite often Very Happy

by Babun Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:30 pm

Iceman wrote:Poland's defense and reduction to 10 men had a lot more to do with those two goals than Mueller did.

You may be right but you have to execute the plan and the guy who did the job wasn't Hans, Fritz or someone else but Muller Very Happy

I doubt Arsenal would come back after a 2-1 in 90th minute Very Happy

He plays until the fat lady sings Very Happy

by Serge Gnabry Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:31 pm

Cookie must be Polish. Only explanation for his irrational hate for everything German.

by Iceman Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:34 pm

babun1024 wrote:
Iceman wrote:Poland's defense and reduction to 10 men had a lot more to do with those two goals than Mueller did.
You may be right but you have to execute the plan and the guy who did the job wasn't Hans, Fritz or someone else but Muller I doubt Arsenal would come back after a 2-1 in 90th minute He plays until the fat lady sings

Actually, we did that several times. The problem is when WE are up 2-1 in the 90th minute lol

Mueller was the guy that did it, but Poland looked way too tired in the last 15 minutes. The defending for the second goal was horrible. One player stumbling and then Cacau was just left alone to score. I agree that Muller should be given credit for his work though. I mean, even the legendary Gotze couldn't do it Laughing

by Babun Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:43 pm

Iceman wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Iceman wrote:Poland's defense and reduction to 10 men had a lot more to do with those two goals than Mueller did.
You may be right but you have to execute the plan and the guy who did the job wasn't Hans, Fritz or someone else but Muller I doubt Arsenal would come back after a 2-1 in 90th minute He plays until the fat lady sings

Actually, we did that several times. The problem is when WE are up 2-1 in the 90th minute lol

Mueller was the guy that did it, but Poland looked way too tired in the last 15 minutes. The defending for the second goal was horrible. One player stumbling and then Cacau was just left alone to score. I agree that Muller should be given credit for his work though. I mean, even the legendary Gotze couldn't do it

Someone is getting the wrong idea. I'm not a Götze fanboy Very Happy

I use him to take the piss out of nick and sportsczy Very Happy

Ozil>>>all other AMs in Germany Very Happy

by Swanhends Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:44 pm

no idea who he is...

never seen him play, only heard about him on this forum

I'll just assume he's a future Ballon D'or

by cookie Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:45 pm

Serge Gnabry wrote:Cookie must be Polish. Only explanation for his irrational hate for everything German.

loool
people thought i'm from austria days ago

by Babun Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:45 pm

bhends wrote:no idea who he is...

never seen him play, only heard about him on this forum

I'll just assume he's a future Ballon D'or

+1

by cyberman Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:53 pm

This alarming disheartening of Marvin Martin is too soon in happening..

what a name. I want Lucas, Fred and Marvin in the 1 team

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:22 pm

Sushi Master wrote:Cabaye was actually good, though (inb4mole). Although let's be serious: that pitch was atrocious. If it was gonna be THAT bad, they'd might as well just gotten artificial grass.

France defended well, got the ball out of the area in a nice Cabaye-M'Vila-Ribery combination... then hit the final 3rd and everything went to shit due to the grass looking like Rooney's face.

But yeah, Godze >>> Martin. Even Professor Wenger agrees.

Best Playmaker in the EPL Very Happy

by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:34 am

As i rewatched some of the game, i have to say that both Martin and Valbuena were piss poor. France had 59% possession... so M'Vila and Cabaye did their job. But that translated to 3 shots on goal....3! There was no service at all to Benzema. All the plays came from Ribery and Evra... and a couple from Sagna. That was the extent of it.

Field was horrific. But players need to adapt more.

by Lord Awesome Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:33 pm

I'm still surprised Koscielny's not given a chance yet.

by Babun Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:08 pm

sportsczy wrote:As i rewatched some of the game, i have to say that both Martin and Valbuena were piss poor. France had 59% possession... so M'Vila and Cabaye did their job. But that translated to 3 shots on goal....3! There was no service at all to Benzema. All the plays came from Ribery and Evra... and a couple from Sagna. That was the extent of it.

Field was horrific. But players need to adapt more.

France should revert to 4-4-1-1 or make Benz AM full time. I saw Martin and Valbuena, both of them sucked hard Very Happy

France needs to play Benz deeper for more creativity but they can't expect him to get on the end of his own balls. He needs a CF next to him :

------------------------M'Vila--------Cabaye-------
Hardwordking winger--------Benz-----------Ribery
-------------------------Gameiro--------------------

It may work for you. As of now, I don't see them scoring in big games Very Happy

Could Menez play on the right by chance? Very Happy

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