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Post by Jack Daniels Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:29 pm

I wasn't being serious.

Everybody knows that i hate CR7 to the bones. lmao

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:50 pm

@xcx: Ronaldo's goals are all tap-ins or easy goals, for the most part. He is nothing really that special.

And xcx when did being cocky mean talent ? Balotelli said he is the best in the world, Ronaldo once said he is the first, second, and third best player in the world. They have talent, but are cocky. Xavi is cocky too, but he is arguably the best passer in the game.

Del Piero is modest. Messi is, etc. They are all talented.

@Jack: whoosh. Sound of your sarcasm going over my head !

Sorry about that, but good to see you have seen reason.
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Post by Senor Penguin Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:54 pm

CR7 is a world-class Almeria and Deportivo butcherer. :coffee:

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:55 pm

Senor Penguin wrote:CR7 is a world-class Almeria and Deportivo butcherer. :coffee:

Big clubs. Must have been hard defeating them with Ozil, Xabi Alonso, and co.

Giuseppe Rossi, now that is a player who works on his own. Third highest goalscorer behind two players playing on teams ions above Villareal and any other team in La Liga.
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Post by the xcx Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:55 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:@xcx: Ronaldo's goals are all tap-ins or easy goals, for the most part. He is nothing really that special.

And xcx when did being cocky mean talent ? Balotelli said he is the best in the world, Ronaldo once said he is the first, second, and third best player in the world. They have talent, but are cocky. Xavi is cocky too, but he is arguably the best passer in the game.

Del Piero is modest. Messi is, etc. They are all talented.

@Jack: whoosh. Sound of your sarcasm going over my head !

Sorry about that, but good to see you have seen reason.
Dude, CR7 is a goal scoring beast. Important is that he scores goals, not how he scores. I dont remember saying arrogant means talent.
Hes important to us, so deal with it.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:58 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Senor Penguin wrote:CR7 is a world-class Almeria and Deportivo butcherer. :coffee:

Big clubs. Must have been hard defeating them with Ozil, Xabi Alonso, and co.

Giuseppe Rossi, now that is a player who works on his own. Third highest goalscorer behind two players playing on teams ions above Villareal and any other team in La Liga.

You clearly do not watch Villarreal play, otherwise you would know that he owe his success to the work Villarreal amazing box mifield did last season behind him, specially the likes of Cazorla, Borja, Cani, and even Bruno.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:02 pm

@xcx: "Being modest really dosent win you games, now do they?"

You were saying ?

@Nick: granted, but those players equate to who Ronaldo have ? Hardly.
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Post by Zealous Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:06 pm

Cazorla, Cani and Borja are some of the best midfielders in Spain and therefore the world if you ask me.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:06 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:@xcx: "Being modest really dosent win you games, now do they?"

You were saying ?

@Nick: granted, but those players equate to who Ronaldo have ? Hardly.

it doesnt matter how good they are individually. Villarreal was so great last season because players were complimenting each other perfectly. Borja is hands down one of the best regista in la liga, easily. Cazorla is a fantastic AM as well. When that kind of players are played to their strength within a system they can reach fanastic levels.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:09 pm

Zealous wrote:Cazorla, Cani and Borja are some of the best midfielders in Spain and therefore the world if you ask me.

Lol. La Liga is not a good league. Two-horse race, nothing too exciting. :coffee:
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:10 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:@xcx: "Being modest really dosent win you games, now do they?"

You were saying ?

@Nick: granted, but those players equate to who Ronaldo have ? Hardly.

it doesnt matter how good they are individually. Villarreal was so great last season because players were complimenting each other perfectly. Borja is hands down one of the best regista in la liga, easily. Cazorla is a fantastic AM as well. When that kind of players are played to their strength within a system they can reach fanastic levels.

Agreed, but still, if Rossi played for Barcelona or Real Madrid, he would surpass Ronaldo and Messi in my opinion.
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Post by Freeza Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:10 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Zealous wrote:Cazorla, Cani and Borja are some of the best midfielders in Spain and therefore the world if you ask me.

Lol. La Liga is not a good league. Two-horse race, nothing too exciting. :coffee:
Villarrel is 10x the team Juventus is :coffee:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:12 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:

Agreed, but still, if Rossi played for Barcelona or Real Madrid, he would surpass Ronaldo and Messi in my opinion.

lol, you are out of your mind. at lol @ you criticizing la liga, Villarreal would wash the floor with you.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:15 pm

Doubt it. Even so, does that make your league amazing ? Hardly.
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Post by Zealous Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:16 pm

What would someone who has Marchisio in his sig know about great midfielders LOL

(I do like Marchisio though)
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:17 pm

Zealous wrote:What would someone who has Marchisio in his sig know about great midfielders LOL

(I do like Marchisio though)

Cute. Marchisio is quality though, and even so he grew up at Juventus and he is my favorite player of the new generation.
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Post by Zealous Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:20 pm

That's nice and all. It hardly means he's any good though. :coffee:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:23 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Doubt it. Even so, does that make your league amazing ? Hardly.

you must be blind if you cant recognize the quality of the players in la liga, really.

It's not surprising, just a minute ago you rated Rossi as on par with Ronaldo and Messi and carrying his team... smh. It's a league you do not follow, so useless to pretend you even know the quality of the players there.

I will stop here as arguing with you is often pointless, you already proved the extent of your knowledge on the topic, so i will not indulge in such argument.

You would think, after the way the newly promoted Betis Seville treat you, albeit in a friendly, underestimating la liga teams is not wise in a general sense.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:27 pm

Who said Rossi was as good as Messi or Ronaldo ? I said he could score goals if he was on a team like that, which is not that far off. Unless you are saying Villareal's midfield is better than Barcelona's or Madrid's, the statement is true. He came third on Villareal, imagine what he would do with players around him.

@Zealous: you make no sense. I have Marchisio in my signature because I like him, does the signature say "MARCHISIO BEST IN THE WORLD" ? No. It has a few photos of him because I like him, leave me be.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:32 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Who said Rossi was as good as Messi or Ronaldo ? I said he could score goals if he was on a team like that, which is not that far off. Unless you are saying Villareal's midfield is better than Barcelona's or Madrid's, the statement is true. He came third on Villareal, imagine what he would do with players around him.

@Zealous: you make no sense. I have Marchisio in my signature because I like him, does the signature say "MARCHISIO BEST IN THE WORLD" ? No. It has a few photos of him because I like him, leave me be.

JuvenelCuore wrote:Agreed, but still, if Rossi played for Barcelona or Real Madrid, he would surpass Ronaldo and Messi in my opinion.
lol

Rossi already has players of amazing quality playing alongside him. All tremendous passers and with great vision, playing around the two forwards.

Like i said, if you were following la liga, you would know that Villarreal was a better passing team than us last season.



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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:35 pm

All i have to say is that dude doesn't think Lev Yashin is the best goalkeeper ever. Apparently, zoff, Buffon, and a couple of other Italian keepers were all clearly better.

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Post by Doc Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:38 pm

Villareal midfield had a better technical approach than Real Madrid's midfield. Their ball movement was extremely good last season and deserves a bit more praise than I feel. The logic that Rossi would score more with either Real's or Barca's midfield behind is the same logic that a few people said about Ibra @ Barcelona.

I do think he'll score a bit more than what he does at Villareal but he isn't the most clinical forward in La Liga.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:44 pm

Doc wrote:Villareal midfield had a better technical approach than Real Madrid's midfield. Their ball movement was extremely good last season and deserves a bit more praise than I feel. The logic that Rossi would score more with either Real's or Barca's midfield behind is the same logic that a few people said about Ibra @ Barcelona.

I do think he'll score a bit more than what he does at Villareal but he isn't the most clinical forward in La Liga.

Perfect analogy, couldnt have said it better. People criticized Inter in the sense that, their team wasnt good enough to support Ibra, and he had to do all the work himself, and the argument was that, with the world class midfield of Barcelona, Ibra would score buckets.

Well, that was a huge fail, and this is the same logic at work here. Villarreal midfield again as you say, has one of the best technical approach in world football, and i am not afraid to say so. they look remarkable when moving the ball, and their 4222 looks like state of the art technology.

If he moves to barcelona, he will have to work a lot more than he does at villarreal, and his goal tally will suffer. he might have a guarantee to score a constant 25 goals every season, kinda like Villa and pedro.
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Post by Doc Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:49 pm

He certainly won't be the main man at Barcelona and if he isn't up to scratch, he'll be easily replaced.
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Post by SuperMAG Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:05 pm

He can be your cancer or The antidode for your team, it all depends on how the coach use him, and how you want him to be.

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Post by Babun Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:58 pm

SuperMAG wrote:He can be your cancer or The antidode for your team, it all depends on how the coach use him, and how you want him to be.
I want us to try him in CF position, if it doesn't work then replace completly Very Happy
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