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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:35 pm

Stat of the day: Barcelona’s iron grip on ball possession

Statistics master Alexis [aka @MisterChip], spent some serious time looking at the way Real Madrid and Barcelona worked to keep the ball in Sunday’s first-leg SuperCopa encounter. By the end of the match, Barcelona emerged with 51.79% compared with 48.21 for the Merengues. To break this down even further: during the full 94 minutes and 32 seconds of time in the match, there were 50 minutes and 53 seconds of open play in which possession of the ball could be contested. Out of this time period, Barcelona held the ball 1 minute and 49 seconds longer than Madrid, and eeked out the majority of the possession for the match.

To look at the bigger picture, this match represented the 184th consecutive official encounter in which the Blaugrana emerged with superior ball possession. That’s a lot of matches!


Stats: @MisterChip • Image: Reuters


Read more: http://www.totalbarca.com/2011/news/stat-of-the-day-barcelonas-iron-grip-on-ball-possession/#ixzz1VEREfgek

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Note: There is 2 ways usually to calculate Possession, Time in which a team has the ball or Number of Passes!


The above stats is according to the time in which Barca & Real had the ball:
==> Possession: Barcelona 52% - 48% Real Madrid!

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I couldn't find the Passing stats for this match..

but according to espn, Possession: Real Madrid 40% - 60% Barcelona!


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=330062&cc=4716

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Post by Babun Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:49 pm



possession =|= domination Very Happy How about Real Madrid generates more shots on target than FCB with less possession/time wasting? Very Happy
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Post by the xcx Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:58 pm

babun1024 wrote:

possession =|= domination Very Happy How about Real Madrid generates more shots on target than FCB with less possession/time wasting? Very Happy
talking sense is forbidden here..Barca dominated, they had some 1-2% more possession than us. Very Happy Possession>domination Very Happy
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Post by Pedram Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:00 am

Ok Khaled satisfy yourself with these stats but everyone knows Real Madrid dominated you from the start to the end. Very Happy
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Post by guest7 Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:04 am



Honestly that was the amount I saw in my TV. I don't get where the sources now say that Barca had more. scratch

In fact, even LiveGoals.com says Real Madrid had 53%. IMO it's a reliable source and I use it all the time to get statistics from games

http://www.livegoals.com/gamecenter/real-madrid-vs-fc-barcelona-14-08-2011
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:11 am

Wow, Madrid fans were bragging about how they outpossessed Barca, frakking liars.

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Post by Khaled Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:23 am

haha WTF!

Where did i say that Barca dominated against Real Madrid? Real Madrid were better last sunday & had more chances than Barca...

I'm just talking about possession! lol!

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Post by Khaled Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:42 am

omarish wrote:

Honestly that was the amount I saw in my TV. I don't get where the sources now say that Barca had more. scratch

In fact, even LiveGoals.com says Real Madrid had 53%. IMO it's a reliable source and I use it all the time to get statistics from games

http://www.livegoals.com/gamecenter/real-madrid-vs-fc-barcelona-14-08-2011

According to Optasports, Zonelmarking, goal.com etc..

Possession last Sunday was: Real Madrid 48% - 52% Barcelona!

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/16/eight-points-on-real-madrid-2-2-barcelona/

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/08/16/2622137/fighting-for-possession-how-real-madrid-matched-barcelona-in

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Post by buddytaller Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:08 am

http://www.livegoals.com/gamecenter/real-madrid-vs-fc-barcelona-14-08-2011

According to this site these were the stats.

Real Madrid Barcelona
GAME STATS
14 Shots 5
9 Shots On Target 3
1 Saves 8
9 Corners 2
3 Offsides 3
3 Goalkicks 8
26 Fouls (Committed) 13
35 Throws 24
53 Ball Possession 47
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Post by Khaled Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:11 am

buddytaller wrote:http://www.livegoals.com/gamecenter/real-madrid-vs-fc-barcelona-14-08-2011

According to this site these were the stats.

Real Madrid Barcelona
GAME STATS
14 Shots 5
9 Shots On Target 3
1 Saves 8
9 Corners 2
3 Offsides 3
3 Goalkicks 8
26 Fouls (Committed) 13
35 Throws 24
53 Ball Possession 47

lol Opta is known to be Best site for Stats..

This is the first time i hear about this site "livegoals?"lol

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anyway, still don't know what are Real Madrid fans doing here.. we are talking about a Barca record of 184 consecutive matches with more ball possession! so GTFO!
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:13 am

I find it a bit harder to believe they had more possession considering we had about 60% at half time then Xavi Pique and Pedro came on the second half

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Post by the xcx Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:26 am

Lionel Messi wrote:I find it a bit harder to believe they had more possession considering we had about 60% at half time then Xavi Pique and Pedro came on the second half
You owned yourself right there Laughing On the othernote Im downloading the right now, so I can update you guys with the actual possession, not that it matters or anything.
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Post by buddytaller Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:56 am

Great to see Barcelona fans happy to see their team rack up possesion, well I do hope Xavi, Pique, Puyol and Busquets play today, their excuses have gone from lol worthy to simply pathetic. Learn to give credit where it is due.

Mourinho is slowing building his empire in the last great league left to conquer (apologies to the Bundes Liga), watch your back Barcelona, a new BOSS is coming to town, hate it or love it the underdogs on TOP.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:05 am

buddytaller wrote:Learn to give credit where it is due.
Funny given how some of your brethren are using a site I've never heard before as more trustworthy than OptaSports, which are the best organization for football stats by leaps and bounds, to justify that Madrid had more possession. But I guess we're the ones not giving credit...
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Post by Khaled Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:58 am

buddytaller wrote:Great to see Barcelona fans happy to see their team rack up possesion, well I do hope Xavi, Pique, Puyol and Busquets play today, their excuses have gone from lol worthy to simply pathetic. Learn to give credit where it is due.

Mourinho is slowing building his empire in the last great league left to conquer (apologies to the Bundes Liga), watch your back Barcelona, a new BOSS is coming to town, hate it or love it the underdogs on TOP.

Messi,Alves,Sanchez,Masch trained for just 5 days & didn't play a single friendly..
We played without Xavi,Puyol,Busq & Pique ..

These are silly excuses? Smile I would like to see u playing without Alonso,Khedira,Carvalho & Pepe.. than see what u can do? @ least we came out with 2-2 Draw Away from home, with unfit & missing players!
anyway, lets wait for tomorrow's match..

U still have a chance & its your last for this seaosn, if u want to win a trophy! Cuz u won't have any chance in the League, CL or even the Copa with a fit Barca starting from Semptember/October, until 1st Classico in December !! Smile
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:12 am

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Lionel Messi wrote:I find it a bit harder to believe they had more possession considering we had about 60% at half time then Xavi Pique and Pedro came on the second half
You owned yourself right there Laughing On the othernote Im downloading the right now, so I can update you guys with the actual possession, not that it matters or anything.
Do you know how to read? I said "AT HALF TIME" I can provide source too.

Also why "update us" if it doesn't matter or if you guys apparently don't care? Seems like you obviously do.

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Post by buddytaller Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:18 am

The players who played on Sunday, represented FCB and that's that, teams go through transitions, this season could potentially be the season where Alexis will take over from Pedro and Xavi and Puyol could struggle with injuries all season.

It's only sound to assume Barcelona has a plan B which was evident in the last game. Madrid started preseaon just a week ahead of Barcelona, and travelled far more extensively and should be complaining of fatigue but they are not. The only "starters" for Barcelona who went to the Copa Del Rey was Messi and Alves, Madrid had Di Maria and Higuain out of action too.


Madrid have also had issues with injury, with Nuri Sahin and Altintop currently injured, Granero and Ramos missed some preseason due to injury, but that cannot be an excuse for an awful performance by the team. Keep underrating the work Mourinho is doing, if it makes you feel good, but I'm sure deep inside you can't help but wonder, if FCB reign at the top has finally come to an end.

Well there is still a full season ahead, and while I think Barcelona is still the best team at the moment and favourites to win every match they play in, I also have the feeling, Mourinho's second season at Madrid, will turn out to be quite special.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:28 am

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Post by Babun Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:45 am

jiopsi wrote:
babun1024 wrote:The definition of butthurt Very Happy
How am I butthurt when I point the obvious, that the quote didn't talk anything about domination, rather than possession.

You are defining like a four year old. :coffee:

Are you now butthurt?
Let the funny quotes be. Of course, you need a little bit intelligence to see past the normal ' but we had more possession' arguments Very Happy
The fact that a Farca supporter makes a thread about possession stats in Farca section when they were utterly dominated for 90 minutes is funny by itself Very Happy
You could even have 60% possession whatsever, what's the point? Very Happy It's like applying makeup on the face of an ugly chick, she'd still be ugly afterwards Very Happy

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If you want to argue with me, leave this thread, the thread is reserved for quotes only Very Happy I'll go to the source of the fun in Farca section ( You know the thread) Very Happy
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Post by Jonathan28 Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:58 am

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Post by BarcaKizz Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:09 am

The Supercup doesn't warrant this much pointless discussion... locking this thread.
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