Myesyats wrote:

jibers wrote:This Barca reminds me of Pep's Barca in the second half of 11/12.

No depth and no penetration from either the wide positions or the centre.

Messi keeps giving away the ball.

same problem then, no striker

Alexis Sanchez, Messi, Pedro

Well I guess but not having a striker is not the main issue. Barca didn't have a striker in 2010is to 2011. It's the set up.

Everyone dropping deep to get the ball and congesting the middle of the pitch. Arthur, Busquets and FDJ are great players technically but neither one of them can give penetrative passes and neither of them are good behind the oppositions MF line.

No runners from centre or wide, no capable through ball passer bar Messi etc.

Personnel problem is an issue.

danyjr wrote:Barcelona have zero attacking players other than Messi. Griezmann completely unsuited to this style, Fati is far too young, no striker, midfielders are all backpass masters.

Madrid's DMs are more creative than Barcelona's CMs ffs. Casemiro/Valverde any day over Farthur and Frankie de Fart.

Yeah, they would desperately need to get Dembélé fit actually.

Lets not overreact as so often ppl do here lol, and blame some of our WC players like Grizemann and De Jong, dont forget they proved just mid week they are at least above the likes of Roberto in our team?

There is no surprise here at all though, looking like Setien is just a make shift temp manager to get us to finish the remainder of this hopeless season now that Suarez is lost and we are not getting a replacement. Then to really change things in the summer hopefully.

The shape is not as bad as GL makes it out to be.

If Suarez and Dembele were fit, you would be praising this team.

Busquets and Roberto out though, gtfo

Barca players aren't pressing. It makes it easier for Valencia to pick passes

Hopefully Rodrigo comes on. I don't trust either of these atrackers to put chances away

Really uninspiring play from Barca. The ref and ter stegen bailing them out.

halamadrid2 wrote:Barca players aren't pressing. It makes it easier for Valencia to pick passes

Hopefully Rodrigo comes on. I don't trust either of these atrackers to put chances away

Rodrigo is strongly rumored with Barca

SO when will Demb´lé be back actually?
anyone knows?

You can have him after this game

Honestly though he's a great player but NOT the CF you're looking for. He's played as a RF for the majority of his Valencia career and he's been absolutely unplayable there. But Messi is an obstacle

Hapless_Hans wrote:SO when will Demb´lé be back actually?
anyone knows?

Back to Dortmund?

halamadrid2 wrote:You can have him after this game

Honestly though he's a great player but NOT the CF you're looking for. He's played as a RF for the majority of his Valencia career and he's been absolutely unplayable there. But Messi is an obstacle

That's the elephant in the room that Barca fans never want to discuss. Doesn't press, offers zero movement off the ball, overloads the centre and vacates the wings, constantly causing barca to face overloads either through the wing or through the middle.

GOOOOOOOOOOOL

TORRES

Goal Valencia.

Well-deserved....

The chickens are coming home to roost for Barcas years of poor recruitment.

Hapless_Hans wrote:SO when will Demb´lé be back actually?
anyone knows?

He should be fit in about 2 weeks

Myesyats wrote:Well-deserved....

What decisions would you make if you could reshape Barca today?

Griezmann is so bad lol

Myesyats wrote:Griezmann is so bad lol

Bad with this team which we all knew he would have struggled. Except the Barcelona board apparently.

Also, don't worry, Madrid would be dropping points tomorrow. It's fine.

Myesyats wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:SO when will Demb´lé be back actually?
anyone knows?

He should be fit in about 2 weeks

hope he manages to fucking stay fit for a while

football as a whole is better with him playing

also, why did Barca let Tobido leave? Kid looked like a very good player to me and Pique isn't getting any better

Every time I try to think about which player has the most punchable face in world football, Alba always comes first.

Arthur I dont know whether is still not back from the STD or whatever ffs, he looked totally off the pace and werent interested, very disappointing, had high for him. Vidal hopefully can bring us some fight at least......

jibers wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Well-deserved....

What decisions would you make if you could reshape Barca today?

off the top of my head

IN: Lautaro Martinez, Kante (or someone his type, more dynamic), Kimmich ( can't think of any RBs right now), De Ligt, Thiago Alcantara

OUT: Pique, Busquets, Roberto - urgently, also Rakitic


Ter Stegen
Kimmich Umtiti DeLigt Alba
Thiago Kante DeJong
Messi Lautaro Dembele

Barcelona should terminate Coutinho's loan. They need him in midfield.

You have to go after realistic targets though. For example, de Ligt is unattainable because he has just committed himself to Juve. You'd have to wait two or three other years for the Old Lady to be willing to sell.

I like the other targets as well, but again Kante is also out of reach.

As for Thiago, I would love to see him join Barça just to see the look of horror on hans' face.