Globosporte is a reputable brazilian newspaper generally speaking, iirc.

WHile reporting on some of PSG transfer business in brazil and Mendes' activity down there,
they are reporting that PSG also made a very very large offer to us for CR7, around 150 mil.

without getting held up on the price, we are getting closer to that point where we will him.
Factor his age + his shitty performances + Bale rising = it will happen sooner or later,

How would you replace him, or at least transition away from him, as technically Bale would
"replace" him

PSG offered Real Madrid 150m for Ronaldo two years ago. overall, they tried to sign him twice. They also offered him 23m net per season back then and he turned them down.

That's when Perez came out and stated publicly that he wouldn't sell him for 1 Billion.

He'll retire at Real Madrid. That guy is too hung up on prestige and there's no club more prestigious than Real Madrid.

He will retire at Real Madrid , only scrubs retire at this club now, like Arbeloa will.

and what prestige have we given him winning 1 CL and 1 league since his time here lol.

Mr Nick09 wrote:Globosporte is a reputable brazilian newspaper generally speaking, iirc.

WHile reporting on some of PSG transfer business in brazil and Mendes' activity down there,
they are reporting that PSG also made a very very large offer to us for CR7, around 150 mil.

without getting held up on the price, we are getting closer to that point where we will him.
Factor his age + his shitty performances + Bale rising = it will happen sooner or later,

How would you replace him, or at least transition away from him, as technically Bale would
"replace" him

lauff lauff lauffs

I personally would pull away from this whole "playing around 1 f-ing guy" stuff and actually try to have a team play like a team. How to replace his goals would be an issue. It didn't win us much but I don't consider it to be entirely Cristiano's fault.

And when was the last Madrid legend to retire here? Sanchis I think?!

I don't think he will retire with us but I do think we will hold on to him longer than we should and his value will plummet. He still has at least 3 seasons in him left before he starts to hamper us like Raul and Iker did. The only one who retired on a high was Zidane I wish others could follow suit and just accept their decline instead of holding on to a fantasy that they can start for a WC team because of their status alone

Doc wrote:I personally would pull away from this whole "playing around 1 f-ing guy" stuff and actually try to have a team play like a team. How to replace his goals would be an issue. It didn't win us much but I don't consider it to be entirely Cristiano's fault.

And when was the last Madrid legend to retire here? Sanchis I think?!

we will have to rely a bit more on a n9 that scores goals and is a real finisher... not like im trying to create any controversy, but you see where i am going with this...

I don't think you can blame any 9 or other striker at Madrid when Ronaldo was taking 500 shots a season and, when he started being a bit-more team oriented, we brought in Bale

In any case, he'll stay here for 2 more years and then go to MLS who can give him his 23 mil net.  He'll just play his current contract out imo.

As far as replacing him... no need to. Just slide Bale in his spot, James takes over on the right and Isco goes in the middle. Done.

I don't know if sliding Bale there would be as effective as Cristiano. The latter isn't Messi or Totti but he actually has a lovely technique on the ball, something I have yet seen from Bale. Also, Ronaldo has Romario-esque off the ball movement (and also his selfishness but whatever) so again, I'm not certain it would have the same effect.

But I guess in theory it should work but I have my doubts. A lot...

Mr Nick09 wrote:

Doc wrote:I personally would pull away from this whole "playing around 1 f-ing guy" stuff and actually try to have a team play like a team. How to replace his goals would be an issue. It didn't win us much but I don't consider it to be entirely Cristiano's fault.

And when was the last Madrid legend to retire here? Sanchis I think?!

we will have to rely a bit more on a n9 that scores goals and is a real finisher... not like im trying to create any controversy, but you see where i am going with this...

i swear if suarez was on the team and we didn't win anything, you have absolutely nothing to say, we all know this has nothing to do with the CF position, a real n9 wtf is that? the point is with higs,benz and any cf, as long as cr is the main focus they will pick up the scrap, why is something so obvious has to be looked over for your silly little agenda?

sportsczy wrote:I don't think you can blame any 9 or other striker at Madrid when Ronaldo was taking 500 shots a season and, when he started being a bit-more team oriented, we brought in Bale

In any case, he'll stay here for 2 more years and then go to MLS who can give him his 23 mil net.  He'll just play his current contract out imo.

As far as replacing him... no need to.  Just slide Bale in his spot, James takes over on the right and Isco goes in the middle.  Done.

i can never understand how cr does this every season, since he has been at madrid, and its still the CF fault .

Madrid better grab that money and run without looking back. As for cr7, he'll never leave/have left madrid for 2 reasons
1.Messi
2.Madrids all time goal record. And seeing as he'll break it in the next 5 seconds, and that theres sadly nothing he can do bout messi, next summer might be the best time to cash in on him and buy the next best "beyonce" with the cash, and yes, we know uncle flo will. By then, Bale will become old gist and oh, he'll be 27 by then. Not uncle flo's idea of beyonce.

this move will depend on a multitude of factors. the most important factor will be how the team finishes the season. if we don't do well this year, the front three as we know it is done. florentiono will be looking to cut losses and put an end to this phase as quickly as possible. if barcelona does better than us, considering how much perez has invested in bringing in players to compete, he'll chunk this one up and fate and my guess is he'll consider moves for both cristiano and benzema; considering they've had major suitors this summer.

i'm not to sure about bale and what florentino plans for him, but he'll make major sales if things don't work out to finance moves to usher in. and in another act of desperation go for a new manager...which will put some of the futures of the young signings in limbo.

if we have a great season, which i know we can, florentino puts this move on ice. he'll sell someone though, but that will depend on who he wants to bring in. the only way that doesn't happen is if rafa can convince him to just add little pieces to the squad. all this is just me hypothesizing; if things don't go well, this will be his last season, florentino will take the deal. him, benzema, isco or modric could be shown the door. and florentino will hold another press conference talking about how the team has been able to yield close to 300 million net and will use this to usher in a new era

as far as us losing, its the fault of the collective. we scored 118 league goals last season, that tells you offence isn't only the problem. we conceded close to fourty goals, and defensive lapses in that crunch tie against barcelona cost us. cristiano has had moments where he's folded, but to heap all the blame like "if cristiano wasn't here we'd win the treble back to back" is ridiculous. and its also ridiculous to blame benzema, marcelo, kroos or even bale

you want to know why we've had 1 liga in seven years? no consistency. after the last title, players came back from the summer out of shape, somewhere along the lines infighting occurred and coach sacked. when a new coach comes, what's the first thing they do? they assure you "it'll take time", every "time taken" means points dropped. we arrive at hasty "solutions" to problems and that has been our biggest enemy, not one player

consistency from the players is not the issue... we keep changing coaching and systems. It always takes time to adapt and the previous squad often needs massaging to get things to fit the new system. If you change managers every 2-3 years at best, you're always hitting the reset button.

That price is certainly enticing, but whats the point? I have 0 faith that RM would reinvest that amount of money into the squad.

And even with Ronaldo gone, there aren't really many options to improve with our starting line up. Honestly I am quite happy with the players we have, it is the depth that needs work, particularly in the midfield, as well as the coaching staff that needs the upgrade.

So really it would just hurt us, IMO. Unless we could sign Neymar and Pogba with that money then it would be pointless.

sportsczy wrote:consistency from the players is not the issue... we keep changing coaching and systems. It always takes time to adapt and the previous squad often needs massaging to get things to fit the new system. If you change managers every 2-3 years at best, you're always hitting the reset button.

that's what i meant by 'consistency', i wasn't talking about the players. it was from an administrative standpoint, which is why i talked about hiring and firing coaches

nick finessing "bale rising" and "new n9" quietly in his arguments

@vandeez.
Neymar and pogba? well, this is uncle flo we're talking bout here. Never say never, especially with pogba. Neymar on the other hand would be a whole different atlantic altogether.
Imagine an attack of
NEYMAR BENZ JAMES
With ISCO just behind.
All will be 24 years of age (except benz). That may well be the best eye porn in club history.
Make it happen flo. €200m isnt much to ask for.

pogba

needs to learn how to play football first

I don't understand the Pogba criticism tbh.  He's been playing either right side B2B or left side B2B with a deep playing mid as cover (Pirlo, Marchisio and Cabaye) for club and NT for the past 3 years.  Now, he's asked to play central...  low and behold, he needs to find his marks again because that is a VERY different position.

Personally, i don't get the change because, physically, he's at his best in space.  If you're forcing him to play in tight spaces, you're taking away one of his best attributes... his physicality and speed.

Why would he be perfect for Madrid?  because we need either a right side or left side B2B.

It's not that complicated

Imagine playing Vieira as a 10... you don't think he would have struggled initially?

I'm with you sports.

I don't see Pogba as a B2B. At the moment he is a more talented version of City's Yaya.

Valkyrja wrote:I don't see Pogba as a B2B. At the moment he is a more talented version of City's Yaya.

you cant say that about him when he has none of the passing range of yaya lol