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Post by Valkyrja Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:21 am

chad4401 wrote:
Thimmy wrote:I believe that Di Maria's last league El Clasico is the closest thing, when it comes to describing a Real Madrid player in recent memory who "dominated" Barcelona. Benzema may have capitalized on the flurry of chances that he created, but he was the one who single-handedly caused Barcelona all kinds of trouble over 90 minutes - not Benzema, Not C. Ronaldo.


benzema has dominated barca, when has any barca player legitimately stopped benzema from playing his game? he scores, assists and overall is usually one of the best players when the match is over.

posters are more interested denying him cause he can't have anything over cr, but its a fact barca can't stop him from doing what he wants during games, they just hope to contain him as much as possible this a fact.

cr has pocket by alves,puyol and pique on plenty of occasions facts.


when Benz was on the bench

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Post by chad4401 Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:28 am

when did you start following madrid? when cr stopped being complete shit against barca?

anyway you can bring up cr all you want, im not scared to stand by my opinions, especially against muppets who had to wait until isco was benched, before they stopped calling him motm every game for just dribbling Laughing, like you know cr is motm for just scoring, tell me im making stuff up Proud.
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:36 am

chad4401 wrote:when did you start following madrid? when cr stopped being complete shit against barca?

anyway you can bring up cr all you want, im not scared to stand by my opinions, especially against muppets who had to wait until isco was benched, before they stopped calling him motm every game for just dribbling Laughing, like you know cr is motm for just scoring, tell me im making stuff up Proud.


I was certainly following madrid when DMzema was being kept on the bench by Higuaín
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Post by Doc Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:43 am

I pray Benzema never leaves this club. Way too much fun with him here.
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Post by chad4401 Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:46 am

higuain 3 goals in 45 cl games, mr freeze up in all the big matches? you mean the same higuain, benzema outscored 4 outta 5 seasons, 5 outta 6 if you count carlo first season, that higuain?

i can see why your so mad now, higs went on to prove that is actually a mastr choker and benzema wasn't stopping like his fanboys suggest stop crying it will me fine Proud.
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:49 am

chad4401 wrote:higuain 3 goals in 45 cl games, mr freeze up in all the big matches? you mean the same higuain, benzema outscored 4 outta 5 seasons, 5 outta 6 if you count carlo first season, that higuain?

i can see why your so mad now, higs went on to prove that is actually a mastr choker and benzema wasn't stopping like his fanboys suggest stop crying it will me fine Proud.


didn't higuain keep benz on the bench till he got injured ?
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Post by chad4401 Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:56 am

you wish mou clearly had an agenda that a fact.

next didn't benzema step up HUGE in the r16, when mou the retard tried to drop him cause benz was picking up form, and in 10 mins he dribbled 4-5 lyon players, to score one of madrid most famous away goals Proud.

that must have hurt a lot or when he lead us to the copa final past sevilla solo amazing goal, mou dropped him for the cl semi and copa final cause he was butt hurt that benz made him look stupid Proud.
oh and cr, higs and ade all flopped that cl semi, but guess who got blamed anyway by the butt hurt fanboys?

funny how history works when to leave out the facts Laughing.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:47 am

Even when Benz was struggling his first 18 months at Madrid... he was benched and, to get him into form, we didn't make him the focal point. Yet with Bale, that's what we're doing Laughing

Flo to Bale: "You were shat. But that's ok... shirt sales went through the roof and that's most important. So to reward you for your excellent monetization, we will build the entire attacking system around you."
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:59 am

Schedule:

28/7/2016 - we play PSG at 12:30 GMT
30/7/2016 - we play Chelsea at 20:00 GMT
4/8/2016 - we play Bayern at 12:30 GMT

Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos and Pepe have been granted leave till the 31st of July. 9 days before the Super Cup. Ronaldo is injured anyways and will most likely not make it for this game.

Finally it starts, so excited
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Post by Doc Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:40 pm

I can feel the salt, the cancer, the joy of the Madridismo flowing back in. My body is ready.
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:59 pm

I hope morata stays and seriously rotates with benzema, poor guy had to play through injury. Ronaldo most likely suffered an LCL tear and those suck but you always come back 100%. Lucas has shown to be a class player when called upon to replace bale, who is injured quite a bit.

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Post by shadexticos Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:52 am

I think we should use this thread to talk about potential transfers - purchases, sales and loans.

I will be talking about Jese - the expected crown Jewel of the Castilla, the supposed heir to Raul's throne, the supposed new C.Ronaldo, the eternal starlet.

Heard some news that Jese wants to stay and fight or his place.
Considering that Morata has overtaken Jese in his development, we expect Morata to be considered above him in any selection.
If we go by last season, we would have noticed that the bench players in madrid only got a look in when one of the BBC were injured. Which means Morata is not eveb sure to get enough chances, not to talk of Lucas Vasquez who will be the fifth choice and then Jese.
Even as a fifth choice, he got only 26% of the total playing time, now he is the sixth choice behind an already proven 75 million euros Morata (at least that is the value madrid placed on him), a more mature and ever-dedicated Lucas.

I think it would be stupid if him to stay. He is 23 years and he is not any better than a player from the youth team in terms of his development, which is majorly due to lack of playing time.

Carvajal, vasquez and Morata's story are enough motivation for him.
His ceiling is defintely higher than morata and up there with the world class players; he has the potential to be worth 50-60 million euros or even more at his peak.
But if he decides to fight for a lost course, then i see him turning to a Bojan Krickic (whatever the spelling is)

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Post by Nivash Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:09 am

I don't think we can discount the huge points deficit Zidane was operating under when we consider his squad selection. In those circumstances, it's reasonable to only put the best out when you need to win every point available just to be in with a shout.


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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:00 pm

Both Marcelo and Carvajal have already arrived at the Valdebebas to start their training. The squad is due back this Saturday
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:44 pm

First day of training

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:45 pm

Players who have started training:

Porteros: Keylor Navas, Casilla, Rubén Yáñez, Álex Craninx y Luca.

Defensas: Varane, Danilo, Carvajal, Marcelo, Nacho, Lienhart, Tejero y Achraf.

Centrocampistas: Casemiro, Isco, Kovacic, Llorente, Asensio, Odegaard, Enzo y Febas.

Delanteros: Benzema, Jesé, Mayoral y Mariano.

Euro guys are still missing
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Post by guest7 Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:32 pm

Real Madrid's new fitness coach, Antonio Pintus, has joined Zidane & the coaching staff in the preseason.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:37 pm

Hopefully we'll have less injuries now that Zizou has got a guy in that he trusts
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Post by shadexticos Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:11 pm

Hopefully the fitness coach becomes our signing of the season.

Zidane is taking up to 11 castilla players with him for preseason.
I am particularly excited about Marcos Llorente.
First time i saw that guy was about three or 4 years ago and i was really impressed by him.
He controls the ball well, distributes it quickly, has some aggression and can maneuver his way out of trouble.
Ever since i first saw him, i rated him as one of the best youth products but i am surprised it is taking so long for him to make the leap up to the first team.
I predict he will be the breakout star of this season and probably capable enough to play in Casemiro's position.
If he would not get enough playing time, he should be loaned..

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Post by Perucho21 Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:32 pm

Will be attending Madrid vs Bayern
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Post by shadexticos Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:53 pm

can we please kick a ball??? :brickwall:
even a video of a training match.. arghh!!

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:12 pm

According to Marca ZZ has been practicing with a 442. Morata-Benz duo up top. All dem crosses by Bale and Lucas finally going to reach people in the box :bow: can't wait to see this partnership

Marca also say ZZ has been spending alot of time with Casemiro to improve his build up play. Things are already looking bright. Long may it continue
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:01 pm

Hala, agree with you.

It's mainly because neither Bale nor Ronaldo will be ready for supercup. However, I think this experimenting with 4-4-2 also will be used (if they step up their game as is being requested) to allow more options (occasionally) for James and Isco.

I think if they can switch between a 4-4-2 and a 4-3-3 depending upon players available and opponents, it can make a difference and further helps Zidane in his reported quest to utilize entire squad.

(This of course will not happen if Sports is right about the politics on club and Z not happy with half the squad!!!)
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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:11 pm

Not too happy about a 4-4-2 with Bale and Ronaldo as "midfielders."

Putting all politics aside for a moment, playing that formation with who I assume would be Bale and Ronaldo on the wings with Kroos and Modric in the midfield looks like a 4-2-4 to me.

That is a mistake we have been making for years. Not sure why it isn't already in the bin.

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Post by futbol_bill Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:17 pm

Deez, I see it more as Ronaldo and Benz up front. The intent would be, as I understand it, play with Modric - Casemiro or Kross with at least one of the AMs, perhaps depending upon rotation, availability of players and opponent.

They are saying for supercup they are looking at Modric, Casemiro, Isco and possibly James, if he is ready. They don't expect Bale, Ronaldo, Kross to be ready.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:57 pm

I was going off the post- testing out the Benzema/Morata partnership, so Bale and Ronaldo would both be on the wings.

I personally wouldn't test the Benzema/Morata partnership as they should rarely be on the pitch at the same time if everyone is fit.

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