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Post by Valkyrja Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:55 pm

Coentrao-Arbeloa is suicide. In the modern game you can't play with 2 defensive FBs . Marcelo is better than Fabio even defensively atm:facepalm: 

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Post by Onyx Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:11 pm

Problem with Di Maria is he just becomes a crossing machine. That's no what Ancelotti's style is. It's to remain patient and look for an opening. Not to rush like it was under Mourinho.

I think currently the players are adapting to the new style, which is why at times Mourinho's style is being played.

In terms of the tactics, we need to improve the possession play. I think Callejon would have been a good option for RW. Usually in a 4-3-3 having a goalscoring out wide is a good idea, as opposed to a different type of player like Di Maria. Final third play needs to improve and the players need to forget Mourinho's style and adapt quicker to Ancelotti's.

Defensively, again, the team needs to be more organised. There needs to be better pressing. Right now the team randomly just sits back.

Also 2 defensive fullbacks don't work in this system.

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Post by StrugaRock Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:21 pm

If Benzema is chosen ahead of Morata on the next La Liga match, I will boycott the entire season.

Really, in Ancelotti's eyes Diego Lopez starts cause he is more on form than Casillas, yet Morata and Carvajal are both more on form than Benzema and Arbeloa resp. yet they sit out these kind of matches.

When Marcelo was introduced, the game changed, which says something.
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Post by chad4401 Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:23 pm

My question is once benzema gets benched, will the midfield stop getting overrun, will we create more chances, concede less goals and will the rest of the team suddenly stop looking confused?

Just asking since he is the cause of all our problems from defense to midfield, he is the one who decides all our games on his own
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Post by Pedram Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:27 pm

chad4401 wrote:My question is once benzema gets benched, will the midfield stop getting overrun, will we create more chances, concede less goals and will the rest of the team suddenly stop looking confused?

Just asking since he is the cause of all our problems from defense to midfield, he is the one who decides all our games on his own
Here we are again, Benz fans deflecting the blame on other players. in their eyes it's never Benzema's fault if he fails.
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Post by chad4401 Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:31 pm

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chad4401 wrote:My question is once benzema gets benched, will the midfield stop getting overrun, will we create more chances, concede less goals and will the rest of the team suddenly stop looking confused?

Just asking since he is the cause of all our problems from defense to midfield, he is the one who decides all our games on his own
Here we are again, Benz fans deflecting the blame on other players. in their eyes it's never Benzema's fault if he fails.
smh the whole team sucks its obvious he is getting singled out for things that doesn't even concern him, no one else is playing any better not cr,isco or di maria, so im asking once he gets bench will everything get fixed since its all his fault going by the comments
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:46 pm

Cristiano isn't playing better than Karim? :facepalm: He scores for fun ffs
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Post by chad4401 Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:49 pm

scoring=having a good game smh, ramos scored too he has been playing great right :facepalm:
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Post by StrugaRock Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:54 pm

At first its Ancelotti's fault, but you cannot bench a coach. His tactics are rusted, out dated and ineffective.

But if you compare Benzema and Morata in terms of form, it's Morata that stands out as the best option, the last two la liga matches speak for themselves, a goal vs Levante and more chances to score vs Atletico, yet less minutes to do so. I'm saying Morata deserves to start ahead of Bezema until Benzema proves otherwise.

Same goes to other players, Arbeloa is the one that comes to mind. Carvajal is better at any aspect than Arbeloa, yet he has yet to be given proper chance to play. Marcelo has yet proved that he is better than Coentrao at any department even in defense.

The defense to midfield is a tactical problem that needs to be sorted out by Ancelotti. Tonight we played a stealth 4-4-2 formation with Isco moving from left midfielder to central attacking midfielder so people wouldn't say it was a 4-4-2 again.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:02 am

chad4401 wrote:scoring=having a good game smh, ramos scored too he has been playing great right :facepalm:
What's the point of playing good if you don't win? Football is about goals ... But still I can't think of anything Benzema is better at than Ronaldo. His overall play isn't better than Ronaldo's nor he is performing better

PS his work rate is worse, even if Ronaldo plays 90mins every 3 days
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Post by chad4401 Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:14 am

StrugaRock wrote:At first its Ancelotti's fault, but you cannot bench a coach. His tactics are rusted, out dated and ineffective.

But if you compare Benzema and Morata in terms of form, it's Morata that stands out as the best option, the last two la liga matches speak for themselves, a goal vs Levante and more chances to score vs Atletico, yet less minutes to do so. I'm saying Morata deserves to start ahead of Bezema until Benzema proves otherwise.

Same goes to other players, Arbeloa is the one that comes to mind. Carvajal is better at any aspect than Arbeloa, yet he has yet to be given proper chance to play. Marcelo has yet proved that he is better than Coentrao at any department even in defense.

The defense to midfield is a tactical problem that needs to be sorted out by Ancelotti. Tonight we played a stealth 4-4-2 formation with Isco moving from left midfielder to central attacking midfielder so people wouldn't say it was a 4-4-2 again.  
The point is even if benz gets dropped, there is still host of issues that needs to be addressed fact, so singling him out after every game like he is the one hold us back is nonsense, other than crosses which is when marcelo or carvajal play, where is the service? How is Morata gonna change Carlo tactics?, something is wrong with the team as a whole, and benzema should get criticized but so should everyone else.
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Post by LeSwagg James Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:20 am

Cristiano had a shit game other than his deflected shot that lead to a goal Laughing.. Still as selfish as ever, taking stupid shots for no reason at all..

But yeah it's Benzema's fault that our whole team was pretty shit
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Post by FalcaoPunch Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:40 am

Benzema is useless up top.
Again Morata comes in and shows more than what he did all game.

Isn't funny that benzema first shot worth mentioning was right as Morata was subbed on.

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Post by titosantill Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:51 am

/watch?v=UxrO2KOX6jI

well for one i know whoever our striker is, they wont resort to blocking our chances at goal....higuain would have never been in such a position....a striker standing in that area during a set piece makes no sense....i hope we get suarez....i was very skeptical of this idea about selling one striker so the other one doesn't have competition....especially when the other has a reputation of being lazy and inconsistent...(btw the video is via youtube)
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StrugaRock wrote:At first its Ancelotti's fault, but you cannot bench a coach. His tactics are rusted, out dated and ineffective.

But if you compare Benzema and Morata in terms of form, it's Morata that stands out as the best option, the last two la liga matches speak for themselves, a goal vs Levante and more chances to score vs Atletico, yet less minutes to do so. I'm saying Morata deserves to start ahead of Bezema until Benzema proves otherwise.

Same goes to other players, Arbeloa is the one that comes to mind. Carvajal is better at any aspect than Arbeloa, yet he has yet to be given proper chance to play. Marcelo has yet proved that he is better than Coentrao at any department even in defense.

The defense to midfield is a tactical problem that needs to be sorted out by Ancelotti. Tonight we played a stealth 4-4-2 formation with Isco moving from left midfielder to central attacking midfielder so people wouldn't say it was a 4-4-2 again.  
The point is even if benz gets dropped, there is still host of issues that needs to be addressed fact, so singling him out after every game like he is the one hold us back is nonsense, other than crosses which is when marcelo or carvajal play, where is the service? How is Morata gonna change Carlo tactics?, something is wrong with the team as a whole, and benzema should get criticized but so should everyone else.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:59 am

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/imagenes/2013/10/05/album/1380997981_273093_1381005015_album_grande.jpg

dat cantera spirit
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Post by terrance511 Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:20 am

marcelo make the whole team differently with him on/off the pitch.

it seem like the team cant function at all without him.

i don even care if benzema sleeping or pepe starting,

we need to play marcelo 188 minutes every weeks ffs.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:20 pm

Benz fans are getting pretty pathetic tbh. Its not benzema with the ball. its benzema WITHOUT THE BALL. Because his movement is TOTAL SHITe. He can't play alone up top. He needs someone like morata partnering him.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:31 pm

lmao Perez getting restless about our game vs levante while watching the basketball supercup vs barca

http://www.as.com/futbol/video/florentino-sufrio-futbol-mientras-veia/20131006dasdasftb_23/Ves
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Post by Kuru Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:43 pm

I got to admit, the guy do love the club with passion... just needs to stop sticking his nose in the first team transfers so much, and keep supporting the team from afar.
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