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Can someone tell me how exactly FFP works and does it effect clubs like Real Madrid , Barcelona , Man city and Milan?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 23, 2012 5:33 am

FFP cant touch Madrid Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 23, 2012 5:34 am

It doesnt Laughing
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Post by Tifoso Romanista Wed May 23, 2012 5:36 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:It doesnt Laughing

so is it useless?
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Post by TalkingReckless Wed May 23, 2012 5:38 am

doesn't really affect the rich clubs... too many loopholes, like City getting the 400mil deal with Ehtiad for sponsorship
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 23, 2012 5:39 am

Sorano Totti wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:It doesnt Laughing

so is it useless?

Madrid make more income than anyone they cant be touched.... FFP isnt stopping people from spending its stopping spending money that isnt theres....

Every penny Madrid spends is its own, same goes for Barca.....

Man City will use sneaky Stadium deals to get past FFP regulations.....

Milan could have problems iam not sure about them.
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Post by hrealmadrid Wed May 23, 2012 5:52 am

Sorano Totti wrote:Can someone tell me how exactly FFP works and does it effect clubs like Real Madrid , Barcelona , Man city and Milan?

UEFA Financial Fair Play Explained
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Post by Adit Wed May 23, 2012 5:53 am

Well from my understanding take couple of points.

1.FFP is on act from 2011-12 season onwards. That is current season was the first FFP season.

2.UEFA monitoring period starts from 2013-14 season in which Clubs need to submit their Accounts of both 2011-12 and 2012-13 season.

3.Those accounts have to match the break even requirement of Uefa. ie,Total relevant income should exceeds total relevant expenses.

4.All the expenses are not counted for FFP accounts. Youth development and training ,clubs social services and some exceptional charges are not counted for FFP.

5.The fee paid for sacking coaches are in exceptional charge and it doesnt count (chelsea takes notes lol),also wages of players signed before 2010 june 30 doesnt count to FFP,ever. Reason why Inter is still sticking with those oldies.

Real madrids Ronaldos and kaka's 13 and 10 million salaries will not count to FFP ever.(good one flo : ) )

6.BUT,there is an acceptable deviation in the first years of FFP.

Sugar daddy's are allowed to absorb the deviation like listed below.


2011-2013---2 year duration------Maximum of 45 million euros loss is allowed and can be absorbed by sugar daddys.

2012-2015---3 year duration---maximum of 45 mill euros loss

from then on euro 30
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EUR 45 million for the monitoring period assessed in the licence seasons
2013/14 and 2014/15

EUR 30 million for the monitoring period assessed in the licence seasons
2015/16, 2016/17 and 2017/18

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Post by pUsHa Wed May 23, 2012 5:57 am

Milan is f*cked ... thats all i can say ...
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Post by animal.crackers Wed May 23, 2012 5:58 am

Ridiculous amounts of loopholes. It won't be a problem.
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Post by Adit Wed May 23, 2012 6:01 am

# chelsea are safe by FFP rules unless they go on a massive spending spree.

Chelsea will definitely will not break even but they will come well within the 45 million loss allowed in the first year.They are safe as it is now.


# City is actually in danger.Their transfer fee counted per year is around 84.4 million euros highest on the planet and it is increasing. Winning EPl might help them but will not be enough to generate a sudden commercial revenue explosion.

# FFP is gona do fuk all on Madrid or Barca who earn large revenue.
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Post by animal.crackers Wed May 23, 2012 6:04 am

The club has said on nuuuuuumerous occasions we will be absolutely fine for FFP.

Of course Mansour will have the best accountants in the world..I take their word for it.
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed May 23, 2012 11:54 am

City should be fine with all those loopholes.
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Post by Milan31 Wed May 23, 2012 12:21 pm

There are many loopholes but I think Serie A clubs in general will be affected most, unfortunately. Except maybe Juve, since they now have there own stadium.
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Post by Forza Wed May 23, 2012 2:32 pm

pUsHa wrote:Milan is f*cked ... thats all i can say ...
Milan31 wrote:There are many loopholes but I think Serie A clubs in general will be affected most, unfortunately. Except maybe Juve, since they now have there own stadium.
Loopholes. From the article that hrealmadrid linked...
Clubs like Manchester City also spend a great deal on things such as youth development which is something that is not counted by FFP regulations. This knocks a nice amount off the annual expenditure for many big clubs. This also applies with such things as stadium or training facility expansion.
A huge amount of money can be hidden in that + Berlu can cover up to 45mil in losses every year if we need him to.
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Post by Lord Hades Wed May 23, 2012 2:35 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:It doesnt Laughing
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Post by chinomaster182 Wed May 23, 2012 5:02 pm

I can see no obvious loopholes in FFP, people saying that most likely do not understand the rules behind it at all.

Adit resumed it quite while, basically FFP kisses outrageous spending goodbye (if it works). All clubs will have to reign in. Clubs who are somewhat safe are Madrid, Barcelona, Arsenal and Bayern.

Clubs who are truly *bleep* are Milan and Inter, with Juventus as a very big maybe.
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Wed May 23, 2012 10:11 pm

Its stopping small clubs from spending money they dont have a la FC Barcelona and Mallorca when they first indebted themselves
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Post by milanfan7 Wed May 23, 2012 11:09 pm

Berlesconi is one of the biggest Mafia men in the world. FFP will not be a problem for him,if he wishes to spend that is.
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Post by chemicalboy99 Thu May 24, 2012 7:07 am

Adit wrote: City is actually in danger.Their transfer fee counted per year is around 84.4 million euros highest on the planet and it is increasing. Winning EPl might help them but will not be enough to generate a sudden commercial revenue explosion.




I beg to differ.

Those City fanatics in that well known City crazy nation of err Indonesia will see to that.
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Post by Swanhends Thu May 24, 2012 9:44 am

but wont all those fans just buy knockoff jerseys from their neighbors? Laughing
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