Re: Radamel Falcao

by elm_baraja_shaman Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:56 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
elmystique wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:nobody is giving up on our current players, no.

with your current players, you honestly don't need El Kun

Cmon, if you wanna talk about kun there is a million threads out there lets keep this about Falcao

hahahahahahaaha

by Babun Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:15 am

Yuri and nick, you disappointed me this time Very Happy

@yuri,Zamorano was very powerful for his stature. Zamorano >2x Falcao.
@nick, give Higgy a year under Mou and he'll be a better poacher than Falcao. Higgy is very agile for a guy of his size, has got second acceleration (Romario had 3, hard to explain but sudden burst of speed into another direction basically). Higgy isn't as technically limited as people make him out to be. He is a real fighter, presses the sh!t out of defence etc. If we'd buy Falcao we'd be better off for 1 year with like 20% improvement over Higgy but long term, Higgy > Falcao.
Imagine a bulked up Higgy with refined shooting skills and positioning. He'd be like Batigol light edition :lol!:

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:16 am

where am i talking crap about higgy?

by Babun Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:19 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:where am i talking crap about higgy?

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:damn he is sharp inside the box...

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:That's not the point, mourinho doesnt like Benzema going forward.

I didn't say that you talk sh!t about him. I wrote that you underrate Higgy a lot. He's got lots of potential...

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:21 am

i have always underrated Higuain, nothing new Cool

by Babun Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:25 am

I wrote somewhere before that Higgy isn't flashy enough for Madrid but it doesn't lessen his worth. I rate him very highly as striker and in my opinion he isn't finished product, yet. He has to survive one more year under Mou then he could go on however he wants. I would even follow his development at another club Very Happy

by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:22 am

I get your point babun.

But on batigol. Guy was just so physical and shot the ball so hard with deadly accuracy. Hec ould finesse it if he wanted to... But most of the time he just blasted it. Think about a cf with Roberto carlos' shot velocity. My favorite striker really. I rate him even higher than r9.

by teamanarchy Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:53 am

no.
Rich man's Higuain?
What has he done to prove that?
Because Higuain has played his skin out to earn his place in this team

by EarlyPrototype Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:38 am

Higuain > Falcao

A good season in the Europa League doesn't mean he deserves to play first team for us ahead of Higuain and Benz.

by Senor Penguin Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:36 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Is this player a rich man's higgy?

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:46 pm

OK I understand that you guys love higgy because of his time here, but you have to admit that falcao is better. The man has 41 goals in 50 games for porto, he scored everywhere. He took over klinsman's record.

Higgy's best season (2009-2010) he scored almost exclusively in la liga. Mostly because many players gave him space and marked ronaldo. He couldnt score against teams that could afford to lock him down too.

and yeah goals/minute is not real that good of a stat for what we want, we have not much problems scoring a rout after an initial goal. We have problems scoring when we have less chances than the other team or in CL.

by Doc Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:22 pm

Yuri, you don't think Higuain can't improve from current level?! Perhaps Falcao is better, maybe I'm just too much of a Higuain admirer to see this as un-bias as possible but perhaps Gonzalo can improve to suit the needs of Real Madrid more...

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:34 pm

If you are saying it that way, then maybe, I honestly dont know. He could improve and he could stay stagnant. As of right this second though Falcao is just plainly better. You have reiterated this and so has babun.

One of the things we need is someone who can constantly score goals from one touches and through balls, both which higgy cant do right now and falcao can.

by Giovanni10 Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:39 pm

That Falcao video just gave me goosebumps! Wow, just put anything in the air across the box and he'll get to it first. His response is immense. He actually reminds of a younger Inzaghi. I don't know if we necessarily need him, but I wouldn't say no to him. The guy is class

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:41 pm

Higuain does still have a lot to prove, but we have to stick by him regardless. With Aguero/Neymar coming he will see less time but at least he is a team player

falcao was in a red hot year as well, dont forget that.

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:07 pm

Im honestly not for buying him this year but I think we should giv higgy one more year, if he doesnt improve enough then we should try to get falcao (if falcao stays on the same level or better). Logically that seems like the best course of action TBH.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:18 pm

to me, seeing how we are signing Aguero/Neymar etc... it's fine to stick with higgy.

Mou is going to slowly push Ronaldo as CF i think, not a bad thing.

i dont really see the need for falcao but it's true that Higuain can still improve, and he undertsands what it means to be a team player

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:24 pm

I dont know, Ronnie as CF doesnt sound too hot unless he loses pace and were forced to, even then id rather play him as SS (Instead of LW) as opposed to CF.

by elm_baraja_shaman Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:26 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:to me, seeing how we are signing Aguero/Neymar etc... it's fine to stick with higgy.

Mou is going to slowly push Ronaldo as CF i think, not a bad thing.

i dont really see the need for falcao but it's true that Higuain can still improve, and he undertsands what it means to be a team player

if Mou will push Ronaldo as a forward, then I believe Neymar would be the best fit to fill his role on the wing...

by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:28 pm

Ronaldo is not moving to CF. He's made it very, very clear. Only in special circumstances...

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:31 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:I dont know, Ronnie as CF doesnt sound too hot unless he loses pace and were forced to, even then id rather play him as SS (Instead of LW) as opposed to CF.

It's not going to be as conservtive as it sounds i think, it's gonna be about him occupying a posiiton in front of the defense and roaming and changing with the other forward. that's how i envision it.

both aguero and Neymar are more than able to play on the left and center (bar neymar to some extent), so they can rotate.

@sportsczy, mourinho will push him to play the position more and more. He wont be an exclusive forward like Higuain is ofc.

by Senor Penguin Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:53 pm

Okay, so our line up for next season:

Ronaldo - Falcao - Benzema - Neymar
------------Ozil - Di Maria
---------------Sahin
-----Mejia - Jesus Christ - Pavon
--------------Coentrao

by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:53 pm

Senor Penguin wrote:Okay, so our line up for next season:

Ronaldo - Falcao - Benzema - Neymar
------------Ozil - Di Maria
---------------Sahin
-----Mejia - Jesus Christ - Pavon
--------------Coentrao

Seems awesome to me

by elm_baraja_shaman Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:55 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:I dont know, Ronnie as CF doesnt sound too hot unless he loses pace and were forced to, even then id rather play him as SS (Instead of LW) as opposed to CF.

It's not going to be as conservtive as it sounds i think, it's gonna be about him occupying a posiiton in front of the defense and roaming and changing with the other forward. that's how i envision it.

both aguero and Neymar are more than able to play on the left and center (bar neymar to some extent), so they can rotate.

@sportsczy, mourinho will push him to play the position more and more. He wont be an exclusive forward like Higuain is ofc.

if u get both Neymar and Aguero and they are all playing, what happens to Ozil?

he just becomes another assuredly burnt talent, a trademark of Real Madrid?

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:57 pm

elmystique wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:I dont know, Ronnie as CF doesnt sound too hot unless he loses pace and were forced to, even then id rather play him as SS (Instead of LW) as opposed to CF.

It's not going to be as conservtive as it sounds i think, it's gonna be about him occupying a posiiton in front of the defense and roaming and changing with the other forward. that's how i envision it.

both aguero and Neymar are more than able to play on the left and center (bar neymar to some extent), so they can rotate.

@sportsczy, mourinho will push him to play the position more and more. He wont be an exclusive forward like Higuain is ofc.

if u get both Neymar and Aguero and they are all playing, what happens to Ozil?

he just becomes another assuredly burnt talent, a trademark of Real Madrid?

what are you talking about? we arent signing both, specially not this summer.

and ozil can still play AM if i remember correctly.

neymar ronaldo aguero
khedira alonso/nuri ozil

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:58 pm

Senor Penguin wrote:Okay, so our line up for next season:

Ronaldo - Falcao - Benzema - Neymar
------------Ozil - Di Maria
---------------Sahin
-----Mejia - Jesus Christ - Pavon
--------------Coentrao

What does this have to do with anything, the thread is about getting falcao if higgy doesnt improve enough by next year. 1 for 1. You cant shoot down any argument for any transfer by saying there will be too many players or it is unrealistic tactically.

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