Bookies have Valencia 3rd behind Bilbao and Atletico to win the cup, strange? Valencia consistently 3rd in the past few years and currently, although their showin in Europe usually disappoint, and recent form are with Bilbao and Atletico, but do u guys think its still a bit strange they are 3rd favourites to win it?

Who do u think will win it? Valencia favourites or 2nd or 3rd? Bilbao for me, but if they get ot the final, they will play 2 tough finals in this and the cup vs Barca

What's a Bookies?

Meh, when they see us beat Fantastico they;ll change their minds.