cyberman wrote:Because its not a Columbia movie? In every single case like this they use. Alance of probabilities, not beyond all reasonable freaking doubt. This ain't the movies kid, they used the standard practice that's used every day up and down the land. That pic is a joke, sky reported that lvpool accused evra of not offering his hand and destroyed it with video evidence front and centre that evra reached out. Don't nick pics from rawk and fall into their cult

You'll get no argument from me that the FA is f*cked up.

Kenny had said that Suarez would shake Evra's hand, it would have been the perfect opportunity to put the whole thing in the past, instead Suarez continued building his reputation as a petulant little child.

However I recognise the futility of arguing this with a Liverpool fan, I'm sure it would be the same with any fan and a member of their team at the centre of such a contentious controversy.

aunshi wrote:Kenny had said that Suarez would shake Evra's hand, it would have been the perfect opportunity to put the whole thing in the past, instead Suarez continued building his reputation as a petulant little child

Likewise, Evra could have done the same and buried it, but he just had to be a wind up merchant at the end and act like a douche

aunshi wrote:You'll get no argument from me that the FA is f*cked up.

Kenny had said that Suarez would shake Evra's hand, it would have been the perfect opportunity to put the whole thing in the past, instead Suarez continued building his reputation as a petulant little child.

Thats Kenny Dalgish's fault not Suarez.He should have consulted Suarez before coming with something like that.

However I recognise the futility of arguing this with a Liverpool fan, I'm sure it would be the same with any fan and a member of their team at the centre of such a contentious controversy.

Probably because u dont have straight answer.

So u would shake hands with someone who abuses your mother?

Yes, be a professional and deal with it.

Sticks and stones and all that.

aunshi wrote:Yes, be a professional and deal with it.

Sticks and stones and all that.

Well i wouldnt.

Dignity and family comes before any professional shit.

I see what you did there. :lucas:







how cheap

aunshi wrote:Yes, be a professional and deal with it.

Sticks and stones and all that.

Sticks and stones and all that... but Evra's reaction to Suarez talking angrily during a game was totally cool by you. and you say you're not applying a hypocritical set of rules.

When did screen shots become legit evidence? :lucas:

stevieg8 wrote:

aunshi wrote:Yes, be a professional and deal with it.

Sticks and stones and all that.

Sticks and stones and all that... but Evra's reaction to Suarez talking angrily during a game was totally cool by you. and you say you're not applying a hypocritical set of rules.

Have I supported Evra at all? I've just said I wish Suarez had shaken hands so we could move on.

aunshi wrote:

stevieg8 wrote:

aunshi wrote:Yes, be a professional and deal with it.

Sticks and stones and all that.

Sticks and stones and all that... but Evra's reaction to Suarez talking angrily during a game was totally cool by you. and you say you're not applying a hypocritical set of rules.

Have I supported Evra at all? I've just said I wish Suarez had shaken hands so we could move on.

Didn;t know Blatter is registered on Goal Legacy.

Danish Press claiming Agger offered Ferdinand to meet outside after the game for a little fight

Nishank wrote:

Interesting picture... anyone who knows anything about body language could infer quite a lot from that picture. If I'm not mistaken, that was right before Evra reached for Suarez as if Suarez had attempted to steal his purse. If Evra had reacted as Ferdinand did, this would be far less of an issue. It's obvious that the situation was being somewhat fueled by both sides. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deceiving themselves. There are no saints in this situation, and there will be no winner to any argument about it.

So Evra reaches out to the person who racially victimized him and he's the douche?

Ohkay..

Evra was always a douche, regardless of who was right or wrong today

[quote="BeautifulGame"][quote="cyberman"]Because its not a Columbia movie? In every single case like this they use. [b]Alance of probabilities, not beyond all reasonable freaking doubt.[/b] This ain't the movies kid, they used the standard practice that's used every day up and down the land. That pic is a joke, sky reported that lvpool accused evra of not offering his hand and destroyed it with video evidence front and centre that evra reached out. Don't nick pics from rawk and fall into their cult[/quote]

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its how work place disciplinary actions are decide EVERYWHERE
you heard the term beyond all reasonable doubt in a boston legal episode and assumed it applied here.
id like to introduce you to the real world
that 2nd pic is suarez reaching out to rio, thats why evras hand isnt fully out
post the vid thats from sepi, the vid that actually shows its horseshit.
i bet you dont

Sepi wrote:Danish Press claiming Agger offered Ferdinand to meet outside after the game for a little fight

undefined[quote="Sepi"][quote="aunshi"][quote="stevieg8"][quote="aunshi"]Yes, be a professional and deal with it.

Sticks and stones and all that.[/quote]

Sticks and stones and all that... but Evra's reaction to Suarez talking angrily during a game was totally cool by you. and you say you're not applying a hypocritical set of rules.[/quote]

Have I supported Evra at all? I've just said I wish Suarez had shaken hands so we could move on.[/quote]

Didn;t know Blatter is registered on Goal Legacy.

[img]https://p.twimg.com/AlYtU41CMAEZya8.jpg[/img][/quote]

in that pic suarez is seen reaching out for a handshake... but he never offered his hand to evra so its clearly been taken after the event.
embarassing

metinsk wrote:

Sepi wrote:Danish Press claiming Agger offered Ferdinand to meet outside after the game for a little fight

attacking the black man once again...
ill wait to see how rio gets the blame.. is there a dubious screenshot handy?

cyberman wrote:

BeautifulGame wrote:

cyberman wrote:Because its not a Columbia movie? In every single case like this they use. Alance of probabilities, not beyond all reasonable freaking doubt. This ain't the movies kid, they used the standard practice that's used every day up and down the land. That pic is a joke, sky reported that lvpool accused evra of not offering his hand and destroyed it with video evidence front and centre that evra reached out. Don't nick pics from rawk and fall into their cult

its how work place disciplinary actions are decide EVERYWHERE
you heard the term beyond all reasonable doubt in a boston legal episode and assumed it applied here.
id like to introduce you to the real world
that 2nd pic is suarez reaching out to rio, thats why evras hand isnt fully out
post the vid thats from sepi, the vid that actually shows its horseshit.
i bet you dont

cyberman wrote:

metinsk wrote:

Sepi wrote:Danish Press claiming Agger offered Ferdinand to meet outside after the game for a little fight

attacking the black man once again...
ill wait to see how rio gets the blame.. is there a dubious screenshot handy?

If Rio is black, then I am pink.

Cyberman is right though. The crimes where certainty beyond reasonable doubt is needed before being found guilty are things like murder.

In less severe cases like provocation or abuse you only need balance of probabilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1IjMngWszI

40 in.. tell me evra didnt offer his hand. theres a better video on ssn that is full on front and center that should be up soon

You can't see if Evra offered his hand or not because someone was standing in the way. Hope another angle of the whole thing is available

Zealous wrote:Cyberman is right though. The crimes where certainty beyond reasonable doubt is needed before being found guilty are things like murder.

In less severe cases like provocation or abuse you only need balance of probabilities.

When if someone is accused of abusing someone in a court of law and FIR is registered then certainly it needs to be proved beyond reasonable doubt in Indian legal system .Not sure which legal system gives verdicts based on balance on probabilities.

What u are saying maybe true in private companies which has seperate code of conduct for its employess but i would be amazed to know if US legal system had found guilt anyone based on probabilities not by being guilt beyond reasonable doubt.