Senor Penguin wrote:Ramos isn't even close to becoming the best ball playing CB. He's clumsy as *bleep*.

Ramos clumsy??? O.o??

halamadrid2 wrote:Ramos clumsy??? O.o??

Compared to the best ball playing CBs out there he surely is.

Ramos isn't clumsy. As someone who enjoys nothing more than berating dear old Ramos, he really has become a solid defender since he switched to CB. You know who is clumsy, Pepe. Dear God, he is clumsy. Why is he so clumsy?

Senor Penguin wrote:

halamadrid2 wrote:Ramos clumsy??? O.o??

Compared to the best ball playing CBs out there he surely is.

Pique is clumsy not Ramos

Ramos is as athletic as it gets never falls over or overdoes things his body cant handle

i for one dont want him to change, guy is a beast there

now Pepe on the other hand is a bit clumsy but he isnt a ball playing CB he is one of our fastest defenders so he is needed when someone gets past our line

Ramos is class, he's not clumsy at all

hrealmadrid wrote:Ramos is class, he's not clumsy at all

Not clumsy at all? Why don't you review the last couple of clasicos we just played and pay attention? Last time we met Barca in the league he gave Messi a huge chance because he was disturbingly clumsy.

I'm not saying he's rubbish or such, but to compare him to the best ball playing CBs is stretching it.

lol penguain, ramos has one of the most solid superemly agile and fast body for his size in the whole world, the one near him is silva, but ramos is quicker and more beaster then him, he also have very nice technique, he does simple stuff.

One of the reason why i want him in the midfeild, he will be able to handle the barca midfeild pressure.

Senor Penguin wrote:

hrealmadrid wrote:Ramos is class, he's not clumsy at all

Not clumsy at all? Why don't you review the last couple of clasicos we just played and pay attention? Last time we met Barca in the league he gave Messi a huge chance because he was disturbingly clumsy.

I'm not saying he's rubbish or such, but to compare him to the best ball playing CBs is stretching it.

him slipping didnt cross your mind eh???

there were other players who also slipped that game

halamadrid2 wrote:

Senor Penguin wrote:

hrealmadrid wrote:Ramos is class, he's not clumsy at all

Not clumsy at all? Why don't you review the last couple of clasicos we just played and pay attention? Last time we met Barca in the league he gave Messi a huge chance because he was disturbingly clumsy.

I'm not saying he's rubbish or such, but to compare him to the best ball playing CBs is stretching it.

him slipping didnt cross your mind eh???

there were other players who also slipped that game

So when you slip you're not being clumsy? And where did I say that others didn't slip during that game?

SuperMAG wrote:lol penguain, ramos has one of the most solid superemly agile and fast body for his size in the whole world, the one near him is silva, but ramos is quicker and more beaster then him, he also have very nice technique, he does simple stuff.

I'm talking about the ball playing ability. The attributes that concern ball control. I'm not talking about who's more agile or who's faster.

Senor Penguin wrote:

halamadrid2 wrote:

Senor Penguin wrote:

hrealmadrid wrote:Ramos is class, he's not clumsy at all

Not clumsy at all? Why don't you review the last couple of clasicos we just played and pay attention? Last time we met Barca in the league he gave Messi a huge chance because he was disturbingly clumsy.

I'm not saying he's rubbish or such, but to compare him to the best ball playing CBs is stretching it.

him slipping didnt cross your mind eh???

there were other players who also slipped that game

So when you slip you're not being clumsy? And where did I say that others didn't slip during that game?

SuperMAG wrote:lol penguain, ramos has one of the most solid superemly agile and fast body for his size in the whole world, the one near him is silva, but ramos is quicker and more beaster then him, he also have very nice technique, he does simple stuff.

I'm talking about the ball playing ability. The attributes that concern ball control. I'm not talking about who's more agile or who's faster.

well u are saying clumsy, its relate to agility and pace, for example, ramos can completely change his direction in a split moment, while other heavy and big defenders will find it difficult to and will probably slip, such as hummles, trust me when he sees messi coming at him, then lol.

when you see ramos running, changing directions, he seems extremely solid and glued to the ground unlike pepe who you will find clumsy and might fall anytime.

But i understand what u are saying about the ball playing, you are talking about passing, long passing and moving the ball out of the defence, well ramos has good ball playing ability but still not as polished as pique for example.

you probably shouldnt have said the clumsy word lol, this forum is in crisis state lol, any misunderstanding will start a war lol.

Ramos is in Fifpro 2011 all star team winner, but T. Silva is not

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@ penguain

we were accused of over watering the field of course you would slip and its nothing to do with being clumsy lol... nothing

Why are you people mentioning Pepe anyway? I don't think he's at all comparable to Ramos. He was always inferior.

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