Champion's League, Group F: Arsenal, OM, BVB, Olympiacos

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:24 am

Post everything related to the teams FC Arsenal, Olympiacos, Olympique de Marseille and Dortmund here Very Happy

Squads:

Arsenal

Goalkeepers
13 Wojciech Szczesny
21 Łukasz Fabiański
24 Vito Mannone

Defenders

3 Bacary Sagna
4 Per Mertesacker
5 Thomas Vermaelen
6 Laurent Koscielny
11 André Santos
18 Sébastien Squillaci
20 Johan Djourou
25 Carl Jenkinson
28 Kieran Gibbs

Midfielders

19 Wilshere
16 Aaron Ramsey
2 Abou Diaby
7 Tomáš Rosický
8 Mikel Arteta
17 Alex Song
27 Gervinho
30 Yossi Benayoun

Strikers

9 Park Chu-Young
10 Robin van Persie
14 Theo Walcott
15 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
23 Andrey Arshavin
29 Marouane Chamakh
31 Ryo Miyaichi

Olympiacos

Goalkeepers

17 Franco Costanzo
42 Balazs Megyeri

Defenders

2 Giannis Maniatis
3 François Modesto
4 Olof Mellberg
6 Tassos Papazoglou
20 José Holebas
21 Avraam Papadopoulos
23 Iván Marcano
35 Vassilis Torossidis
81 Giorgos Valerianos
92 Giannis Potouridis

Midfielders

7 Ariel Ibagaza
8 Ljubomir Fejsa
18 Giannis Fetfatzidis
19 David Fuster
31 Pablo Orbaiz
33 Francisco Yeste
77 Jean Makoun
93 Djamel Abdoun

Forwards

9 Marko Pantelić
10 Rafik Djebbour
11 Albert Riera
14 Kevin Mirallas

Olympique de Marseille

Goalkeepers

1 Gennaro Bracigliano
16 Elinton Andrade
30 Steve Mandanda
40 Julien Fabri

Defenders

2 César Azpilicueta
3 Nicolas N'Koulou
13 Djimi Traoré
21 Souleymane Diawara
24 Rod Fanni
26 Jean-Philippe Sabo
31 Gérard Roland
35 Christophe Lowinsky

Midfielders

4 Alou Diarra
7 Benoît Cheyrou
8 Lucho González
12 Charles Kaboré
17 Stéphane Mbia
18 Morgan Amalfitano
28 Mathieu Valbuena
34 Florian Moulet

Forwards

10 André-Pierre Gignac
11 Loïc Rémy
15 Jérémy Morel
20 André Ayew
23 Jordan Ayew
25 Billel Omrani
29 Chris Gadi
32 Najib Ammari

Dortmund

Goalkeepers

1 Roman Weidenfeller
20 Mitchell Langerak
30 Zlatan Alomerovic
41 Johannes Focher

Defenders

4 Neven Subotić
15 Mats Hummels
25 Patrick Owomoyela
27 Felipe Santana
28 Marc Hornschuh
29 Marcel Schmelzer
33 Koray Günter

Midfielders

5 Sebastian Kehl
6 Florian Kringe
7 Moritz Leitner
8 Antonio da Silva
11 Mario Götze
16 Jakub Błaszczykowski
21 Ilkay Gündogan
22 Sven Bender
23 Shinji Kagawa
24 Chris Löwe 0
26 Łukasz Piszczek
31 Marvin Bakalorz

Forwards

9 Robert Lewandowski
10 Mohamed Zidan
13 Damien Le Tallec
14 Ivan Perišić
18 Lucas Barrios
19 Kevin Grosskreutz
34 Marvin Ducksch

On Tuesday, 13th September, Olympiacos(home) will play OM and Dortmund (home) Arsenal FC. Based on current form and squad I'd say OM are the favourites, Arsenal and BVB will fight for the second place. Of course, it could change with time when the later teams will come into 1st gear. Olympiacos are no pushovers either Very Happy

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:26 am

Marseille's Andre Ayew out for 10 days with groin injury

The Ghana international sustained the problem in training and will miss this weekend's Ligue 1 encounter with Stade Rennais, as well as Tuesday's Champions League clash

http://www.goal.com/en/news/90/france/2011/09/08/2655883/marseilles-andre-ayew-out-for-10-days-with-groin-injury

He is out of the first game , big advantage for Arsenal and BVB if Olympiacos manages a win/draw at home Very Happy

by billy_gr Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:59 am

Shouldn’t those threads be in the CL section?
Anyway… Mirallas plays as a fw not a midfielder and he is definitely Olympiakos big gun.
Other than that we haven’t played a single official game yet so I don’t see us winning against the French

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:17 pm

billy_gr wrote:Shouldn’t those threads be in the CL section?
Anyway… Mirallas plays as a fw not a midfielder and he is definitely Olympiakos big gun.
Other than that we haven’t played a single official game yet so I don’t see us winning against the French

Fixed the part about Mirallas. Ayew is OM's big gun, his loss would force them to change tactics. Also, Olympiacos park their bus properly Very Happy

About the CL thread section, no one goes there, there're only two threads with the most general questions:
1. Who'll win CL?
2. Who'll win Europe League?
Very Happy

I might rather not post at all than there, at least for now Very Happy

by billy_gr Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:26 pm

Fair enough…
I still have hopes for this game, especially because of our stadiums atmosphere.
However no official games is a real handicap and unfortunately I see it affecting Olympiacos especially in the second half.

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:03 pm

billy_gr wrote:
Fair enough…
I still have hopes for this game, especially because of our stadiums atmosphere.
However no official games is a real handicap and unfortunately I see it affecting Olympiacos especially in the second half.

I didn't get your point at first. If the team is unfit for 90min then you guys are in big trouble. OM are one of the more physical teams Very Happy

by billy_gr Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:10 pm

This exactly we have just played some friendly matches and the last one was in the beginning of August.
Realistically I expect Olympiacos to look really tired after the 60th minute

by Raptorgunner Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:25 pm

babun1024 wrote:Post everything related to the teams FC Arsenal, Olympiacos, Olympique de Marseille and Dortmund here

Squads:

Arsenal

Goalkeepers
13Wojciech Szczesny you forgot the #1 GK
21 Łukasz Fabiański
24 Vito Mannone

Defenders

3 Bacary Sagna
4 Per Mertesacker
5 Thomas Vermaelen
6 Laurent Koscielny
11 André Santos
18 Sébastien Squillaci
20 Johan Djourou
25 Carl Jenkinson
28 Kieran Gibbs

Midfielders

2 Abou Diaby
7 Tomáš Rosický
8 Mikel Arteta
17 Alex Song
27 Gervinho
30 Yossi Benayoun

Strikers

9 Park Chu-Young
10 Robin van Persie
14 Theo Walcott
15 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
23 Andrey Arshavin
29 Marouane Chamakh
31 Ryo Miyaichi

Olympiacos

On Tuesday, 13th September, Olympiacos(home) will play OM and Dortmund (home) Arsenal FC. Based on current form and squad I'd say OM are the favourites, Arsenal and BVB will fight for the second place. Of course, it could change with time when the later teams will come into 1st gear. Olympiacos are no pushovers either

by beatrixasdfghjk. Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:32 pm

Yes, I was wondering where Szczesny was >>

by julias Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:02 pm

and Wilshere and Ramsey lol

by Guest Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:15 pm

Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.

by Abramovich Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:48 pm

julias wrote:and Wilshere and Ramsey lol

Lol wow how to miss that smoking

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:56 pm

I fixed everything Very Happy

sportsczy wrote:Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.

Dortmund stink (no Sahin), Arsenal stink (Cesc, Nasri) and Olympiakos ( short of fitness) stink as well Very Happy

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:59 pm

babun1024 wrote:I fixed everything
sportsczy wrote:Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.
Dortmund stink (no Sahin), Arsenal stink (Cesc, Nasri) and Olympiakos ( short of fitness) stink as well

How can you possibly stink with Schmelzer, Hummels, Subotic, Bender, Godtze and Kagawa? Very Happy

by Interista809 Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:31 pm

Really interesting group... Looking foward to it. Arsenal got a tough group when they are going through a transition period. In years past they had stronger squads but got "easier groups"

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:35 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:I fixed everything
sportsczy wrote:Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.
Dortmund stink (no Sahin), Arsenal stink (Cesc, Nasri) and Olympiakos ( short of fitness) stink as well

How can you possibly stink with Schmelzer, Hummels, Subotic, Bender, Godtze and Kagawa?

Sahin was the motor Very Happy

It's like taking Alonso out of Real Madrid's midfield... Very Happy

by VivaStPauli Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:37 pm

Sahin really isn't needed if you got Gödze and Kagawa in front of Bender tbh.

Well not needed is underrating him, but I think they can compensate the loss by creating plays farther up the pitch.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:39 pm

babun1024 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:I fixed everything
sportsczy wrote:Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.
Dortmund stink (no Sahin), Arsenal stink (Cesc, Nasri) and Olympiakos ( short of fitness) stink as well

How can you possibly stink with Schmelzer, Hummels, Subotic, Bender, Godtze and Kagawa?
Sahin was the motor It's like taking Alonso out of Real Madrid's midfield...

Sahin's influence was overrated Very Happy

especially what he gave them defensively, Bender did all his defensive work Very Happy

and with Godtze and Kagawa theres enough creativity there and Hummels and Subotic are boss enough for the defense Very Happy

They miss a goalscorer still though Very Happy

I hate how Babun instills the smiley mentality into me when i quote his posts Very Happy

by RealGunner Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:40 pm

Dortmund will win the group with ease, Marsielle, Olympiakos n Arsenal will fight for the 2nd n 3rd spot.

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:40 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:I fixed everything
sportsczy wrote:Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.
Dortmund stink (no Sahin), Arsenal stink (Cesc, Nasri) and Olympiakos ( short of fitness) stink as well

How can you possibly stink with Schmelzer, Hummels, Subotic, Bender, Godtze and Kagawa?
Sahin was the motor It's like taking Alonso out of Real Madrid's midfield...

Sahin's influence was overrated especially what he gave them defensively, Bender did all his defensive work and with Godtze and Kagawa theres enough creativity there and Hummels and Subotic are boss enough for the defense

They miss a goalscorer still though

I hate how Babun instills the smiley mentality into me when i quote his posts

Smile some more, it's good for your health Very Happy

Sahin's influence wasn't overrated, he gave them the cutting edge. Right now, the switch between attack and defence is too slow Very Happy

Götze and Kagawa have to work their asses off Very Happy

Also, they never had a designated goalscorer Very Happy

by McAgger Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:48 pm

BVB to take first place in the group

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:53 pm

babun1024 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:I fixed everything
sportsczy wrote:Marseille's defense stinks this year so far. Started out horribly and gave up leads in several games. They have 3 points in 4 games in Ligue 1 so far and in 16th place while giving up 7 goals and scoring 6.

Best player on the team has been Remy so far. Valbuena has been good. Diarra meh+. That's about it.

They're not that good right now.
Dortmund stink (no Sahin), Arsenal stink (Cesc, Nasri) and Olympiakos ( short of fitness) stink as well

How can you possibly stink with Schmelzer, Hummels, Subotic, Bender, Godtze and Kagawa?
Sahin was the motor It's like taking Alonso out of Real Madrid's midfield...

Sahin's influence was overrated especially what he gave them defensively, Bender did all his defensive work and with Godtze and Kagawa theres enough creativity there and Hummels and Subotic are boss enough for the defense

They miss a goalscorer still though

I hate how Babun instills the smiley mentality into me when i quote his posts
Also, they never had a designated goalscorer

I know thats why i said they miss a goalscorer still though( as in they never had one and they STILL dont have one) Very Happy

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:54 pm

RealGunner wrote:Dortmund will win the group with ease, Marsielle, Olympiakos n Arsenal will fight for the 2nd n 3rd spot.

I get that Arsenal will have a lot of chemistry problems with new players at first but BVB on the other hand dominate in top games but don't score enough Very Happy

I doubt they'll be first placed Very Happy

Barrios and Lewandowski aren't good enough Very Happy

by Babun Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:56 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
I know thats why i said they miss a goalscorer still though( as in they never had one and they STILL dont have one)

I'm tired as hell from learning and working today Very Happy

You expect me to concentrate 100% on everything? Very Happy

Typical englishman, finding faults in others... :lol!:

by The BoyWonder Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:11 pm

Arsenal and OM will progress for this group, DOrtmund couldn't even get out of EL group sorry...and imo they are a little overated. OM is on par with them, OM could even win the group i reckon as Arsenal isn't too much better than the 2 other

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