Is cramming their XI with United players the best strategy for England atm?

by Swanhends Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:47 am

With the blazing start United has had to the season, is the best strategy for England to try for as much continuity as possible and cram their starting XI with as many United players as they can reasonably get in there?

Should players who (on paper) might be superior to their counterparts have their starting place sacrificed for the sake of continuity? For example, fielding a lineup like:

Welbeck Rooney
Young Cleverly Wilshere XXXX
Cole Jones Smalling Richards
Hart

XXXX = Walcott/Milner/Henderson/someone else

by REWB Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:50 am

bhends wrote:With the blazing start United has had to the season, is the best strategy for England to try for as much continuity as possible and cram their starting XI with as many United players as they can reasonably get in there?

Should players who (on paper) might be superior to their counterparts have their starting place sacrificed for the sake of continuity? For example, fielding a lineup like:

Welbeck Rooney
Young Cleverly Wilshere XXXX
Cole Jones Smalling Richards
Hart

XXXX = Walcott/Milner/Henderson/someone else

sturidge Rooney
Young gerrard Wilshere cleverly
Cole Jones Smalling Richards
Hart

this is more like it, by far the best young england team. great team.

by Lex Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:51 am

Capello's run out of ideas, anything will do at the moment

by Ganso Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:52 am

Walcott is a starter based on what capello says

by The Franchise Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:54 am

I say yes.

I believe National teams always do better when its based around a club side who have lots of players from said nation.

Obviously the advantage of playing together often is there.

And England can do with anything other then what they are doing now.

by RedOranje Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:55 am

Don't think Henderson should be starting for the national side just yet. He needs more experience and time to develop at club level first. Also, there are undoubtedly better options for England in the wide positions at this time.

by Swanhends Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:55 am

RedEyesWhiteBeard wrote:
bhends wrote:With the blazing start United has had to the season, is the best strategy for England to try for as much continuity as possible and cram their starting XI with as many United players as they can reasonably get in there?

Should players who (on paper) might be superior to their counterparts have their starting place sacrificed for the sake of continuity? For example, fielding a lineup like:

Welbeck Rooney
Young Cleverly Wilshere XXXX
Cole Jones Smalling Richards
Hart

XXXX = Walcott/Milner/Henderson/someone else

sturidge Rooney
Young gerrard Wilshere cleverly
Cole Jones Smalling Richards
Hart

this is more like it, by far the best young england team. great team.

The Sturridge/Welbeck sort of situation is one of the competitions I had in mind making this thread...I think (perhaps this is a misguided opinion) that people in general seem to rate Sturridge higher than they do Welbeck....But should Welbeck start OVER Sturridge based on the fact that he has experience playing with Rooney/Young/Cleverly etc and has had great success (so far) with those players, even if Sturridge is a better player?

by RealGunner Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:20 am

Cleverley shouldn't be starting. There are better players.

by mr-r34 Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:22 am

What no one rates downing? His much better then Milner, Hendo or Walcott.

by arabprince Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:23 am

Let's look at Spain.

hmm.

by lszanto Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:23 am

Yes, look at spain with 90% of players from RM/Barca. The players play with each other week in week out, so are for sure a better pick for chemistry.

Otherwise there is no way to justify Pedro starting for Spain Razz

by Albiceleste Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:24 am

Take a gander at Spaincelona

by Arquitecto Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:53 am

In the end, the players have merited their place as this should be a priority over other factors.

Plus, the chemistry between them is an advantage no?

Great decision by Fabio.

by juventus101 Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:11 am

England players just need to learn to work together better. The prrcect example of this is Lampard-Gerrard. If they could work together, England could be a real force. England should look like this in my opinion.

Hart
Johnson Terry Ferdinand Cole
Lampard Barry Gerrard
Lennon Rooney Young

I think a 442 would work better for England, bht right now Rooney is the only english striker on form. If Defoe gets back on form tho, j think a 442 would definitely work, with Barry coming out.

by BeautifulGame Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:17 am

They still dont have a half a decent DM and Capello will play Parker there.Unless he plays Jones instead of Parker in midfield they will get shafted by every decent team.

by lenear1030 Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:20 am

mr-r34 wrote:What no one rates downing? His much better then Milner, Hendo or Walcott.

downing?

he's not much better than those guys AT ALL.

in my opinion he's not better than walcott, lennon, agbonlahor, adam johnson, etc. not that he shouldnt be given a chance, but i just dont think he's "much better" than those guys as you say

by cyberman Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:32 am

Cleverley is a must for England
His tactical brain is ridiculous, he covers so much ground while never losing the ball. Its exactly what England need atm, hell be a breath of fresh air.
If you want to play football, Welbeck over Sturridge. Sturridge scores goals but Welbeck is excellent in knitting play together

by cyberman Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:37 am

In 2 years we will see.

Rooney ----- Welbeck

Young------Wilshere----- Cleverley-----Morrison

?----------Jones------- Smalling--------?

WELCOME TO MANCHESTER WILSHERE!!!!

let the tapping up commence

by Lord Awesome Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:39 am

Hmm....

Could work actually.

Can Young play RM? If so, then I suggest Downing at LM.

Mexico so beats that squad.

by Guest Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:46 am

7 Liverpool players invited to England's U-21 team :coffee:

we'll fight it out with the Mancs

by RedOranje Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:18 am

"Invited to" rather than "called up"? Interesting choice by England to change their U-21 management...

Any news on Kelly's injury? Has he been called up as well?

by lszanto Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:19 am

RedOranje wrote:"Invited to" rather than "called up"? Interesting choice by England to change their U-21 management...

Any news on Kelly's injury? Has he been called up as well?

You get your invitation in the mail, just have to rsvp to Fabio before the set date.

by RedOranje Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:25 am

I'm getting an invite? England really are desperate to invite a mediocre-at-best player who's a US citizen... Razz

by lszanto Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:31 am

Well we all know the quality of the english NT, they have nowhere else to turn. Laughing

by Red Alert Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:03 am

I'm sick and tired of Gerrard, Johnson and soon... Kelly getting injured with the NT. So, in conclusion of my one line sentence, send all the Mancs to play for the NT. They'd only play better with the experience of Capello after all. Wink

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