What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
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What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by BarrileteCosmico Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:55 pm
Laporta: "I would like to thank Italy, if Guardiola had never gone there then he would have never learned as much about tactics before coming here" (paraphrased)
Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:56 pm
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by VivaStPauli Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:59 pm
The cause of Guardiolas success?
Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.
Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Ali Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:02 pm
VivaStPauli wrote:The cause of Guardiolas success?
Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by the xcx Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:18 pm
He benefits the success he has from the players and from UEFA.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Laporta: "I would like to thank Italy, if Guardiola had never gone there then he would have never learned as much about tactics before coming here" (paraphrased)
Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Arquitecto Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:30 pm
While it may be his tutelage from Italia, the simple fact of the reason is Guardiola won because.........
He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.
Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.
Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by The Madrid One Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:32 pm
if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. 
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by the xcx Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:33 pm
well luck is part of being a football coach, besides Mou has been successful in 4 different countries.Arquitecto wrote:While it may be his tutelage from Italia, the simple fact of the reason is Guardiola won because.........
He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.
Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by the xcx Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:34 pm
Not to mention, they wouldnt won a sextuple either.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Arquitecto Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:34 pm
The xcx wrote:well luck is part of being a football coach, besides Mou has been successful in 4 different countries.Arquitecto wrote:While it may be his tutelage from Italia, the simple fact of the reason is Guardiola won because.........
He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.
Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
Not talking about luck, I'm talking about how he has gotten away with instances in a match worse then the semi final classico controversy.
His hypocrisy is laughable.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:37 pm
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
Same could be said for Mou at Porto and at Inter aswell he had decisions go his way( and iam not talking about Barca he had decisions go his way against Chelsea and in the group stage which led to them qualifying)
And probably every great coach in history, seriously stfu and stop bringing it up.
They were lucky we get it
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by awalezelin Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:43 pm
VivaStPauli wrote:The cause of Guardiolas success?
Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.
is rijkaard as successful as guardiola?
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Albiceleste Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:51 pm
The xcx wrote:He benefits the success he has from the players and from UEFA.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Laporta: "I would like to thank Italy, if Guardiola had never gone there then he would have never learned as much about tactics before coming here" (paraphrased)
Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Albiceleste Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:52 pm
If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by harhar11 Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:54 pm
Lionel Messi wrote:If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by Albiceleste Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:55 pm
The referee came out and admitted to it, and they got kicked out of the Champions Leagueharhar11 wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/05/europeanfootball
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by harhar11 Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:58 pm
Lionel Messi wrote:The referee came out and admitted to it, and they got kicked out of the Champions Leagueharhar11 wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/05/europeanfootball
Porto decided not to appeal against the decision made by the disciplinary commission of the Professional Portuguese Football League because they were comfortably ahead in the league table and the six points would not affect their final position,
what a punishment, atleast they got no CL football
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by the xcx Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:59 pm
Lionel Messi wrote:If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
harhar11 wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by B-Mac Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:21 pm
cause for his success. doesn't play Chivas Guadalajara every weekend 
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by windkick Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:33 pm
This forum is starting to suck, a honest question and what could of been a well thought out discussion turns in to immediate pointing of instances of "luck", UEFA conspiracies, cheating and "wouldn't of won if" instead of giving any form of praise to a very successful manger or even discussing the topic itself
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by BeautifulGame Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:35 pm
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc.
If Overbo wasn't stupid enough give Abidal a red card for Anelka dive there would have been no Pique handball incident in the first place.
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by the xcx Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:41 pm
alright, lucks, conspiracies and cheatings aside, how is he successful then? It must be benefitting from the players, because there are quite a talented ones in barca. But in the end, dosent every successful manager benefit some part from the players? Pep isint known as tactical genius now is he?windkick wrote:This forum is starting to suck, a honest question and what could of been a well thought out discussion turns in to immediate pointing of instances of "luck", UEFA conspiracies, cheating and "wouldn't of won if" instead of giving any form of praise to a very successful manger or even discussing the topic itself
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Re: What is the cause of Guardiola's success?
by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:43 pm
Any half decent manager could do well with Barcelona. Plus Guardiola's transfers have been terrible at many time, but because he's at Barcelona he gets away with it. He won't at any other club...
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