Re: 2018/2019 Premier League Discussion Part III

by Unique Wed May 08, 2019 12:09 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Fifa's Appeal Committee has rejected #CFC's appeal against a two-window transfer ban (with the exception of minors). The club now have the option to go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to see if the ruling can be overturned, or the ban delayed. https://t.co/M2mmg0jiSo
— Dominic Fifield (@domfifield) May 8, 2019

does this ban mean they cant sell players either.

by rincon Wed May 08, 2019 12:37 pm

Selling is fine, they just can't register new players at Chelsea

by Firenze Wed May 08, 2019 1:00 pm

so Hazard won't be leaving will he? if the ban is enforced with no delay

how long does he have left on his contract

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 08, 2019 1:07 pm

1 year and he will leave. They signed and registered pulisic already for this situation.

Next step is Chelsea petitioning TAS which will likely suspend the ban

by Firenze Wed May 08, 2019 1:16 pm

oh yeah, forgot about Pulisic

how's his season been? anyone know? feel like no hype for him like there was before

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 08, 2019 1:18 pm

Firenze wrote:oh yeah, forgot about Pulisic

how's his season been? anyone know? feel like no hype for him like there was before

He's been benched by top Brexit lad Sancho hasn't he? rofl

by Hapless_Hans Wed May 08, 2019 5:41 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Firenze wrote:oh yeah, forgot about Pulisic

how's his season been? anyone know? feel like no hype for him like there was before

He's been benched by top Brexit lad Sancho hasn't he?

Worse. He's been benched by Danish Dortmund youth scrub Jacob Bruun Larsen

by Hapless_Hans Wed May 08, 2019 5:44 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:1 year and he will leave. They signed and registered pulisic already for this situation.

Next step is Chelsea petitioning TAS which will likely suspend the ban

In that sense it's good for them that the FIFA appeal was decided so quickly. While there's a CAS appeal going on, they can register players can't they?

by Sina Sat May 11, 2019 3:52 am

https://www.football365.com/news/every-premier-league-clubs-player-of-the-season

quite interesting how many teams have CB/FB as their player of the season
obv not at bigger teams bar utd though

by Hapless_Hans Sat May 11, 2019 7:10 pm

I asked this the other week and noone replied so I'll ask it again

Why is the PL finishing a week early? Why aren't they using next weekend's game day too as all other leagues, especially seeing the stupid fixture congestion in recent months when they schedule FA cup and PL ties on the same weekends?

I was wondering it had to do with th play offs, but those are already being played today and anyway no PL team is involved.

Just seems odd. There'll be two whole weeks break between FA cup final and CL final. Why?

by iftikhar Sat May 11, 2019 7:15 pm

PL or English Football doesn't make sense a lot of time:

Freaking Curabao Cup
Insane fixtures in holiday season

But I guess the last game-week is set aside for the FA Cup Final.

Just my assumption.

by Hapless_Hans Sat May 11, 2019 7:17 pm

The FA Cup final is played when the other leagues play their last match day.
Then the next weekend the other leagues play their cup final and in England there's nothing.

Considering the congestion earlier this seems absolutely stupid to me.

by Unique Sat May 11, 2019 7:23 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I asked this the other week and noone replied so I'll ask it again

Why is the PL finishing a week early? Why aren't they using next weekend's game day too as all other leagues, especially seeing the stupid fixture congestion in recent months when they schedule FA cup and PL ties on the same weekends?

I was wondering it had to do with th play offs, but those are already being played today and anyway no PL team is involved.

Just seems odd. There'll be two whole weeks break between FA cup final and CL final. Why?

the English lge finishes a week early so our clubs can get a extra weeks rest before we have to play for the Euro cups. The rest of you guys in Europe don’t have that problem :coffee:

by Jay29 Sat May 11, 2019 7:56 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I asked this the other week and noone replied so I'll ask it again

Why is the PL finishing a week early? Why aren't they using next weekend's game day too as all other leagues, especially seeing the stupid fixture congestion in recent months when they schedule FA cup and PL ties on the same weekends?

I was wondering it had to do with th play offs, but those are already being played today and anyway no PL team is involved.

Just seems odd. There'll be two whole weeks break between FA cup final and CL final. Why?

This is the closest I've found to an answer:

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/fa-has-their-way-as-reasons-emerge-for-early-premier-league-start

It seems to be a result of the Premier League and the FA agreeing to start early so teams have more time to prepare for the FA Cup final. It seems TV broadcasters will pay more to show the FA Cup final if they have assurances it'll be a high quality game. I guess they feared that having it a week after the season ended didn't give the players enough rest.

The article also mentions the winter break, which comes into effect next season. Starting early allows a bit more flexibility in the schedule so the FA Cup final doesn't have to be pushed back. Seems the PL have allowed this much given the FA have acquiesced to scrapping 5th round FA Cup replays and moving that round to midweek instead of a weekend.

Such is the fun of having two major governing bodies with differing priorities.

by Jay29 Sun May 12, 2019 10:00 am

Final day of the PL today. Here are the permutations for the title race:

- City win = City Champions
- City draw + Liverpool win = Liverpool Champions
- City draw + Liverpool draw/loss = City Champions
- City loss + Liverpool win = Liverpool Champions
- City loss by five or more goals + Liverpool draw = Liverpool Champions
- City loss by less then five goals + Liverpool draw = City Champions

Those last two conditions can get more complicated as in the event that points and GD are tied, teams will be separated by goals scored. If City lose 4-0 and Liverpool draw, both teams will be on 95 points with +69 GD, but City have scored 91 goals while Liverpool have scored 87. In which case, City would still win the league... unless Liverpool drew 4-4. Both teams would then have identical points, GD, GF and GA, which if IIRC would then lead to a special play-off game to determine the Champion.

And for the final CL spot, as unlikely as it is:

- Spurs win/draw = Spurs in CL
- Spurs lose and Arsenal win, and there's an eight goal swing = Arsenal in CL

To explain this one, Spurs' GD is currently +28 while Arsenal's is +20. If Spurs lose 4-0 at home to Everton and Arsenal win 4-0 at Burnley, Arsenal will go into fourth. If Spurs lose 3-0, Arsenal need to win 5-0, and so on.

by Hapless_Hans Sun May 12, 2019 10:12 am

Jay29 wrote:Final day of the PL today. Here are the permutations for the title race:

- City win = City Champions
- City draw + Liverpool win = Liverpool Champions
- City draw + Liverpool draw/loss = City Champions
- City loss + Liverpool win = Liverpool Champions
- City loss by five or more goals + Liverpool draw = Liverpool Champions
- City loss by less then five goals + Liverpool draw = City Champions

Those last two conditions can get more complicated as in the event that points and GD are tied, teams will be separated by goals scored. If City lose 4-0 and Liverpool draw, both teams will be on 95 points with +69 GD, but City have scored 91 goals while Liverpool have scored 87. In which case, City would still win the league... unless Liverpool drew 4-4. Both teams would then have identical points, GD, GF and GA, which if IIRC would then lead to a special play-off game to determine the Champion.

And for the final CL spot, as unlikely as it is:

- Spurs win/draw = Spurs in CL
- Spurs lose and Arsenal win, and there's an eight goal swing = Arsenal in CL

To explain this one, Spurs' GD is currently +28 while Arsenal's is +20. If Spurs lose 4-0 at home to Everton and Arsenal win 4-0 at Burnley, Arsenal will go into fourth. If Spurs lose 3-0, Arsenal need to win 5-0, and so on.

Thanks for the detailed layout. Sadly, there's not much suspense going into today, too unlikely that City won't win.

by CBarca Sun May 12, 2019 1:55 pm

And Wolves are no pushovers themselves either. Liverpool could very well draw/lose given Wolves record against the top 6 and also Liverpool this season.

That being said, anything can happen. CL has proved that. I'd say the Pool comeback and Spurs chance of comeback after halftime were both lower than the odds that City draw/lose and Pool win

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 12, 2019 2:09 pm

CBarca wrote:And Wolves are no pushovers themselves either. Liverpool could very well draw/lose given Wolves record against the top 6 and also Liverpool this season.

That being said, anything can happen. CL has proved that. I'd say the Pool comeback and Spurs chance of comeback after halftime were both lower than the odds that City draw/lose and Pool win

Not when you consider the very well noted LOL Liga and Eredivisie being trash inflation adjustment scale.

In the GOAT league such inferiority complexes are less likely to happen as seen by this scale.

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by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 12, 2019 2:15 pm

We have someone called Cass on our bench today Laughing

He better be 7 foot tall because you can't teach that.

by Robespierre Sun May 12, 2019 2:15 pm

the only thing I know of Brighton is because of Quadrophenia, will be they able to become popular for something else today ? I've doubts tbh

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 12, 2019 2:16 pm

Robespierre wrote:the only thing I know of Brighton is because of Quadrophenia, will be they able to become popular for some other today ? I've doubts tbh

They are also known for unusually high gay population hmm