Brexit: Should the UK stay or go?

Firenze wrote:

Unique wrote:

Lex wrote:


Because, as I've stated before, it would show the EU's true colours. This wasn't a secret referendum. The EU knew full well this could happen and if they want to take it personally, that's their problem. If they want to act like jilted bitches, so be it. And no-one's been bad mouthing the EU except Britain's citizens. I know Juncker is always pushing for a superstate where the residents aren't allowed to question dictatorship, but thankfully, we don't tow the line like Cameron did


U.S. is one of a dozen markets to trade with. If the U.S. don't want to play ball, we can simply take our custom elsewhere

everyone will still do business with Britain. nobody and I mean nobody will turn down money.

Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

Lex wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

Lex wrote:Then don't call me and 52% of the country inbred or idiots, fam. You lost. Deal with it with some grace.

If you take it too personal, that's your bloody problem. It doesn't take a scientist to realise how dumb a decision this is.

And what? You think the EU are just going to bend over and let the UK get whatever favorable trade deals they want? They're going to go out of their way to make it as hard as possible for us. They'll use us as a "scaptegoat" for any other country thinking of leaving the EU. AT THE VERY BEST, we'll get deals that bring us right back to where we were before the referendum, at which point, what would then have been the point of crashing the economy and tanking our currency to a 31 year low? Hell, they can even decide to be petty and add conditions of us accepting x number of immigrants as part of any deal. So then what would the point have been?

Throw in the inevitable breakaway of Scotland(who voted to remain in the UK BECAUSE they wanted to remain in the EU, in case you've forgotten) and possibly Northern Ireland and this whole talk of "we have the 5th largest economy in the world, we'll bounce back" goes straight out the window. Say hello to England & Wales.

What an absolutely brilliant move. Congratulations.


Need more proof that idiots voted leave? Take a look at the huge outcry from the uneducated/misinformed/ignorant/deceived bunch who are regretting their leave votes.

Again, if you take it personal, that's your bloody business. You're not obligated to goad me into anything because of that.

When you call me and 52% of the electorate majourity inbreds and idiots, then yes, I do take it personally

If the EU decides to use us as an example to other countries that are thinking of leaving, then it'll prove what everyone's been saying about them for years to be true, that they're an elitist bunch of dictators who want to rule with an iron fist and don't want to listen to anything but their own voices, making our decision to leave that much more correct. In terms of striking deals, Australia seems do be doing alright, as well as the U.S. and Japan and pretty much any other country outside of the EU. Again, if Juncker wants to make life difficult for us, that shows what a petty little shit he is and proves we were better off out than in, hopefully causing more countries to follow suit

If you want to say I'm wrong, fine. But don't insult my and other's character and intelligence by hurling abuse because you didn't get your way. If you don't want to be "goaded", don't make such shambolic generalisations

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:

Unique wrote:

Lex wrote:


Because, as I've stated before, it would show the EU's true colours. This wasn't a secret referendum. The EU knew full well this could happen and if they want to take it personally, that's their problem. If they want to act like jilted bitches, so be it. And no-one's been bad mouthing the EU except Britain's citizens. I know Juncker is always pushing for a superstate where the residents aren't allowed to question dictatorship, but thankfully, we don't tow the line like Cameron did


U.S. is one of a dozen markets to trade with. If the U.S. don't want to play ball, we can simply take our custom elsewhere

everyone will still do business with Britain. nobody and I mean nobody will turn down money.

Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

but will Scotland get more out of the eu than they do out of being part of Britain. I doubt it.

Unique wrote:

rwo power wrote:

Unique wrote:oh no. how will Britain survive without Estonia

Estonia is a part of the EU. And you probably forget that any deal the UK wants to get out of the EU on their departure has to be sanctioned by all 27 of them?

yeah and I bet they are pissed right off that they have just lost a big fat cash cow.

RealGunner wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:


Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

but will Scotland get more out of the eu than they do out of being part of Britain. I doubt it.

They will. Scotland will still be top 20 richest countries in the world if they are independent of the UK. Scotland doesn't rely on the UK for anything. With the EU, they will sign on the terms which will be beneficial for them as Sturgeon is far far more competent than Cameron.

RealGunner wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:


Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

but will Scotland get more out of the eu than they do out of being part of Britain. I doubt it.

They will. Scotland will still be top 20 richest countries in the world if they are independent of the UK. Scotland doesn't rely on the UK for anything. With the EU, they will sign on the terms which will be beneficial for them as Sturgeon is far far more competent than Cameron.

Betty La Fea wrote:

RealGunner wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:


Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

but will Scotland get more out of the eu than they do out of being part of Britain. I doubt it.

They will. Scotland will still be top 20 richest countries in the world if they are independent of the UK. Scotland doesn't rely on the UK for anything. With the EU, they will sign on the terms which will be beneficial for them as Sturgeon is far far more competent than Cameron.

That sounds awfully high for a place like Scotland

According to Global finance magazine the UK, all together, is only barely in the top 30

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world?page=12

Unique wrote: it wasent that long ago that Scotland were using more money from the tax man than they were giving. in other words they were operating at a loss.

Freeza wrote:I'll up my Whiskey consumption to support Scotland if they leave.

zigra wrote:GDPpc is such a daft model tbh

Anyway, from what I saw Scotlands is higher than that of UK as a whole. Don't know if it's top20, but that's not really the point and they can't be far from it when the UK as a whole is 27.

Unique wrote: it wasent that long ago that Scotland were using more money from the tax man than they were giving. in other words they were operating at a loss.

You mean they were investing?

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:

Unique wrote:
everyone will still do business with Britain. nobody and I mean nobody will turn down money.

Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

but will Scotland get more out of the eu than they do out of being part of Britain. I doubt it.

VendettaRed07 wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:


Wales did.

I've never been particularly into the whole UNITED KINGDOM, GREAT BRITAIN thing. I'm English. But it is kind of sad that hundreds of years of bloody history will be thrown away now with Soctland and most likely NI gaining independence.

but will Scotland get more out of the eu than they do out of being part of Britain. I doubt it.

Not wanting to lose the value of the pound and move to the Euro was the biggest reason as to why Scotland decided to stay.

The minute the value of the pound dips below the euro they are gone.

Robespierre wrote:David Cameron...

He believed to win and so the referendum  had to consolidate his position , but conversely Brexit won ( and so he lost it ) and he was obliged to resign. It will be reminded as the man to have taken away England from EU . A real inept

VendettaRed07 wrote:
This should never have been put up to a vote.

Unique wrote:

zigra wrote:GDPpc is such a daft model tbh

Anyway, from what I saw Scotlands is higher than that of UK as a whole. Don't know if it's top20, but that's not really the point and they can't be far from it when the UK as a whole is 27.

Unique wrote: it wasent that long ago that Scotland were using more money from the tax man than they were giving. in other words they were operating at a loss.

You mean they were investing?

no. they were using more tax money than they were giving.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214477/Nine-Scottish-households-benefits-pay-tax.html

this was from 2012. I'm not sure how much has changed since then.

VendettaRed07 wrote:It's unbelievable there's no ability to block, veto or filibuster the decision to allow a referendum on an issue this massive and complex, to go through on a vote of a simple majority, by a party who won on only 37% of the vote, from the other partys and elected officials all across the country.

This should never have been put up to a vote.

ES wrote:Can't the Queen like override this decision