Re: Roberto Firmino

by Helmer Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:34 am

If we sign another striker like Bacca, Firmino will shine immediately. A striker like Bacca will ease off the pressure Firmino.

But if we do not sign anyone else, Firmino will be asked to play different roles throughout the season (considering Sturridge injured) for a long time. I think Origi and Ings will both struggle to make to starting XI every week. So looking at the recent trend, we might play Firmino as CF more often than what we should.

by Glory Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:22 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:If we sign another striker like Bacca, Firmino will shine immediately. A striker like Bacca will ease off the pressure Firmino.

But if we do not sign anyone else, Firmino will be asked to play different roles throughout the season (considering Sturridge injured) for a long time. I think Origi and Ings will both struggle to make to starting XI every week. So looking at the recent trend, we might play Firmino as CF more often than what we should.

I personally think Ings will surprise many people next season.

by Helmer Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:59 am

Roberto Firmino - Page 5 Infographic-Firmino-Costa1

if he keeps pn playing alongside either Sturridge or Coutinho throughout the next season, he will tear new holes in the opposition defenses like Suarez did :coffee:

by M99 Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:24 pm

Bringing out teh Brazilliance Molenation

by Curtinho Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:05 pm

I remember when that one guy kept going around being like "Payet is so much better than Firmino" and how much people were hating on him.

lol clowns

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:26 pm

But Payet is better than Firmino Laughing

Firmino is very hot and cold and took along time to settle into his current form. Payet has been doing it all season, nearly in every game he plays.

by Curtinho Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:15 pm

Payet isn't better than Firmino. Laughing

Firmino is also not "very hot and cold" -- he took time to settle because of the change in tactics, manager and injury (as well as the new league, teammates shuffling due to injury, etc.)

by M99 Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:18 pm

Dude, I am biased for Firmino because he is Brazilian but Payet has had a far better season than Firmino. He is better for now.

by Firenze Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:25 pm

Payet's been consistently GOAT for a few seasons now. of course he's better rofl.

by Kaladin Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:28 pm

Wasn't Firmino labelled a flop 2-3 weeks ago Laughing

by Doc Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:29 pm

Are we measuring who is more talented or having a better season because talent can be a bit difficult to measure unless it's something that is glaringly obvious.

That being said, Payet is having the better season. Not sure how else to put it.

by Helmer Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:09 pm

I think Payet has proved much more than Firmino and he has done much more for WestHam ! Well anyways, my post was related to the thing that he is a very talented player and I think I have seen enough of his attitude that he will be even better player for us in the next season.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:57 pm

Not a fan.

Good player, but not a top player and never will be one.

Bellarabi, Son, Lallana level. Able to shine midtable, too inconsistent and weak for anything above.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:59 pm

You're welcome, Liverpool rofl

by Unique Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:04 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:You're welcome, Liverpool

for what

by Hapless_Hans Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:08 pm

Unique wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:You're welcome, Liverpool
for what

Firmino scored at 3:58pm CET

by farfan Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:57 pm

Curtinho wrote:Payet isn't better than Firmino. Firmino is also not "very hot and cold" -- he took time to settle because of the change in tactics, manager and injury (as well as the new league, teammates shuffling due to injury, etc.)

He's better at literally everything . Laughing

Can you get any more transparent and biased btw ? you seem to think that every single liverpool player is equal / better than their premier league counterparts in their respective positions .
You'd have to wonder why said teams are outperforming you despite having the lesser players .

by Hapless_Hans Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:03 pm

It's not like you aren't biased towards French/French-Maghrebian/Ex-Ligue-1 players though Laughing

by farfan Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:13 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:It's not like you aren't biased towards French/French-Maghrebian/Ex-Ligue-1 players though

The only bias i shown here was towards Benzema , and even then i wasn't one of those that compared him to Suarez or other obviously superior strikers . Laughing

What other Francophone players you think i endorsed in this forum ? hmm

by RealGunner Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:17 pm

Chamakh and Sydney Govou

by farfan Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:18 pm

RealGunner wrote:Chamakh and Sydney Govou

I bet Chamakh was highly rated by Hans in 2010. Laughing

by Doc Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:19 pm

What baffles me is the same hurdles Firmino went through minus the manager part, Payet went through and the latter is still doing better. So I am really, honestly baffled why Curtinho would write that statement for anything other than being bias.

by McAgger Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:22 pm

Which idiot said Payet has been doing this for years. As if Firmino hasn't. He had a goat season in 13-14 and had a very solid 14-15 in a much better league than Payet. And this season Firmino's output is similar to Payet's even if people think the Frenchman has done better because it didn't take him long to settle.