Re: Chelsea agree £11m deal for Salah

by The Franchise Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:21 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:I fail to see how he is a Mourinho type of player. Can he put a defensive shift in when required? I don't think so.

That's what I used to think about Ronaldo and Di Maria. Now look at them.

You used to wonder if Di Maria would put in a defensive shift?

You actually think Cristiano does or did?

by Lord Awesome Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:37 pm

The Franchise wrote:

You used to wonder if Di Maria would put in a defensive shift?

You actually think Cristiano does or did?

Ronnie certainly sweat his jersy playing under Mou making 50+ meter runs when it was time for a Counter Attack. Heck, didn't he score his only Own Goal under Mou?

As for Di Maria, I noticed it when RM played against Bayern in the 2012-2013 CL Semifinal. Helped Arbeloa alot against Ribery and Robben.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:41 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
The Franchise wrote:

You used to wonder if Di Maria would put in a defensive shift?

You actually think Cristiano does or did?

Ronnie certainly sweat his jersy playing under Mou making 50+ meter runs when it was time for a Counter Attack. Heck, didn't he score his only Own Goal under Mou?

As for Di Maria, I noticed it when RM played against Bayern in the 2012-2013 CL Semifinal. Helped Arbeloa alot against Ribery and Robben.

di maria is naturally hard working nothing to do with mourinho.

As for CR Laughing

i didnt mch running vs dortmund to cover marcelo

by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:41 pm

Good signing. He could either turn into a Gary Cahill-type steal or show his true colors like Marin and Moses. Chelsea will not be harmed though from a financial standpoint given their resale values.

by The Franchise Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:46 pm

Di Maria always ran his guts out.

At Benfica they played 442 diamond. He had to counter attack on the wings, then get back into the midfield to defend...and then out to wings again if the rightback got forward.

Cristiano? Alright then..

by Lord Awesome Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:47 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
di maria is naturally hard working nothing to do with mourinho.

As for CR :lol:i didnt see much running vs dortmund to cover marcelo

I hardly saw Ronnie vs Dortmund match either. Defensively or Offensively. It's what happens when a team decides to stay back and Counter. Not the same as the other times when RM don't have the ball and use Ronnie as an outlet where he also recovers.

Franchise, you should know, bro. Barca almost always have the ball in their possesion against RM. Where is Ronnie when that happens?

by Helmer Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:49 pm

Lex wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:And by the way, its funny to see these comments on the deal. We've sold Mata & De Bruyne but apparently we're not allowed to have any subs on the bench. Having Oscar/Willian/Hazard is all we need, according to GL.
You have 23 players on loan ffs :lol:Including players like Josh "better than Wilshere" McEachran, Oriol Romeu, Moses and Marko Marin, as well as Gael Kakuta hiding in the janitor's closet

Don't pretend like Chelsea are short on players and have to resort to dipping into the market to add depth out of desperation

btw doesnt chelsea have 5/6 players on loan to Vitesse who are joint toppers of Eredivisie hmm

!!!!!!

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:50 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
di maria is naturally hard working nothing to do with mourinho.

As for CR :lol:i didnt see much running vs dortmund to cover marcelo

I hardly saw Ronnie vs Dortmund match either. Defensively or Offensively. It's what happens when a team decides to stay back and Counter. Not the same as the other times when RM don't have the ball and use Ronnie as an outlet where he also recovers.

that's precisely the point, he picks ad chooses when he does it. And vs the biggest teams he hardly works hard in transition.

When it comes to running forward top speed to score a goal, cr is great. when it comes to transition defense? by the time he is done pouting for losing the ball, the other team is already shooting on goal. this myth that CR defends is laughable. He ran a little last year when everyone was insulting, and vs barca ofc because there is too much spotlight.

by Lord Awesome Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:57 pm

So Ronnie dosen't track back now.

OK guys.......I think we're done here.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:59 pm

no he doesnt lol

by izzy Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:01 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:So Ronnie dosen't track back now.

OK guys.......I think we're done here.

No, he doesn't. Laughing

by The Franchise Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:02 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
di maria is naturally hard working nothing to do with mourinho.

As for CR :lol:i didnt see much running vs dortmund to cover marcelo

I hardly saw Ronnie vs Dortmund match either. Defensively or Offensively. It's what happens when a team decides to stay back and Counter. Not the same as the other times when RM don't have the ball and use Ronnie as an outlet where he also recovers.

Franchise, you should know, bro. Barca almost always have the ball in their possesion against RM. Where is Ronnie when that happens?

Depends on the game. Sometimes back....sometimes standing and watching.

by rwo power Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:03 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:So Ronnie dosen't track back now.

Well, at least he doesn't track back against German teams. I can't remember he did any of that against Bayern or Dortmund.

by izzy Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:05 pm

The Franchise wrote:Depends on the game. Sometimes back....sometimes standing and watching.

I don't know about sometimes.........

by Lord Awesome Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:07 pm

Umm, look guys. Let's rewind to the last Barca vs RM game.

Call it an utter fail, despite the effort, but where was Ronnie when Alves nutmug him?

When Ronnie made that assist to Jese where did Ronnie start his run from?

That's just I remembered just now. There can be more examples that I may have missed. If I go back more games I'm pretty sure I can find more examples.

by izzy Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:09 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:Umm, look. Let's rewind to the last Barca vs RM game.

Call it an utter fail, despite the effort, but where was Ronnie when Alves nutmug him?

When Ronnie made that assist to Jese where did Ronnie start his run from?

Select games.

He's in the defensive half more than I've ever seen him, doesn't really do much but whatever.

But he doesn't really track back. Only in select games.

by The Franchise Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:09 pm

izzy wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Depends on the game. Sometimes back....sometimes standing and watching.

I don't know about sometimes.........

Occasionally is better.

by Le Samourai Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:11 pm

He does it when it's important. In an ideal world he'd sit his ass down in Copa Del Rey games, a get subbed every now and again, and maybe have the energy to actually do his part in making the team a consistent defensive unit, but I think everyone understands how unrealistic a utopia that is.

The fact that he does it occasionally is a welcome change.

by Lord Awesome Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:13 pm

I'll stick with "sometimes" then. It's better than "never" at least.

by The Franchise Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:17 pm

Well I think the starting point of this was you basically saying because of Mourinho he works harder than you expected.

I would disagree with that, unless you expected him to literally stand on the half way line every game when you lose the ball.

by Lord Awesome Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:24 pm

The Franchise wrote:I would disagree with that, unless you expected him to literally stand on the half way line every game when you lose the ball.

That's what some here made it sound like, to me at least. Laughing

But yeah, Mou wasn't the only one who physically demanded from him. Pretty sure Alex was the one who molded him that way. Mou's gone now but still see Ronnie tracking back.

by rwo power Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:31 pm

Um, I think we should return to Momo here now ^^

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:43 am

Next Messi.

by Red Alert Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:21 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Sepi

Salah went to liverpool to pass his medical and then took the plane to london. pool doctors were kind enough to send his bio to chelsea

2nd hijacked transfer of the year for mou

We were heavily interested, but no you're wrong.

He wasn't having a medical with us. Liverpool didn't even have a bid agreed with FC Basel. We were stalling on it because we weren't prepared to offer anything over 10.

by Gil Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:23 am

Rwo. Who's the better talent? Shaqiri or Salah?

All I remember about this guy was how quick he was. His general play never stood out to me.

by Kick Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:25 am

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

Next Messi.

Good god, that video makes him look like the next hoof and chase player :facepalm:

Does not get me excited about him at all.

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