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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:54 pm

Yeah I never got that, letting your completely defenceless kid wonder about doing her own thing. If I had a kid, it'd be very close by until it was old enough and sensible enough to use a gun


As for them wrecking the prison, well it wasn't like an unnoticed mistake. Rick even said that if they destroy the fences it's useless and either both could share it or nobody could use it. You could see in the end, the true governor came back and despite saying it 'wasn't personal' it sure as hell became personal to him when he decided to kill Hershal.


A lot of people are sheep, Governor is well.... da guvna ffs. He takes charge, the weak minded people weren't questioning it. Not to mention Governor gave them all a twisted story about how Ricks mob were all killers and 'killed his daughter' so the moral factor wasn't there.

Governors girlfriend was pretty dumb, and I'm kinda pissed that she gave the governor the final blow. But the episode was great.

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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:06 pm

If you think the Governor was evil. Wait till you meet Negan Laughing (That will be in season 6 probably though) Long time yet but he will make you smash your TV in rage.


Also be prepared to meet one of the most badass characters on TWD in Feb. Abraham has been confirmed to appear on episode 10 ( He is the Daryl of comics )

Michael Cudlitz plays him. If you ever watched Southland then he was in it.
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Post by McAgger Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:10 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Atm it's

1) Rick and Carl
2) Glenn and the Bus Laughing
3) Maggie solo?
4) Beth and Daryl
5) Michonne solo?
Maggie is with Sasha and that alcoholic black dude
Tyrese is with 3 little girls
Carol is by herself.
Michonne I think is alone or could be with Rick and Carl, not sure.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:12 pm

Am I the only one who doesn't want them to stay seperated for too long?

Some of those 'groups' could get a couple hours of screen time each, and they look like they'll be so boring

Carl N Rick, legit
Daryl and Beth, legit. If she's the hot blonde chick. I forget

Imagine the 'dialogue' between Glenn and nobodies. Tyrese and kids, and then 1 or 2 solo people which obviously has no dialogue.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:19 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't want them to stay seperated for too long?

Some of those 'groups' could get a couple hours of screen time each, and they look like they'll be so boring

Carl N Rick, legit
Daryl and Beth, legit. If she's the hot blonde chick. I forget

Imagine the 'dialogue' between Glenn and nobodies. Tyrese and kids, and then 1 or 2 solo people which obviously has no dialogue.
Nah I am with you on this.

I like glen, but i don't want to see him become a semi leader of the bus crew. No body have time for that.

Think they will reunite the people into two groups or something. Like Rick, Carl, Michonne, Daryl and Beth can find each other and then Tyrese, kids, glen, maggie, bob and Sasha can find each other.

They will all end up together eventually. The next arc is going to be about Alexandria (season 5) so rest of the season 4 might not have that much action in it. Will probably be about re-uniting everyone. We'll see though. Hopefully it follows the comics because that's when it is at its best.
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Post by McAgger Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:27 pm

Quit ruining the show with your comic shit RG ffs
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Post by LeVersacci Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:28 pm

Laughing

I'll forget all those names anyway Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:50 pm

McAgger wrote:Quit ruining the show with your comic shit RG ffs
no spoilers ffs

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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:33 am

This thread already has so many spoilers lol both comics and show
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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:28 am

Obviously the spoilers will be on from the show. You shouldn't be here if you haven't seen the episode.

There are no comic spoilers. Just names. I hate spoilers so will never spoil anything for anyone.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:08 am

Yeah to me a general rule to follow is don't enter any thread unless you've seen the latest ep. Makes it simple enough for everybody

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Post by Eman Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:21 am

RealGunner wrote:Regarding Judith.

She died in the comics. But her death was very different. In the comics, lilly ( governor's gf ) kills Lori ( who was still alive ) and Lori falls on Judith crushing her. Killing both of them. Was probably one of the darkest moments in the comics.

In the show. I don't think she is dead. Why? because one that her seatbelt was unbuckled. Second, the kids after killing that army girl quickly ran to one direction when Tyrese was shouting to run to a different direction. In theory they probably ran back to get the baby and then ran away with Tyrese. I am 95% sure she is alive. But that would mean that she will die later when she grows up or have a completely new story of her own.
RG pls, if she died in the comics too then she was always likely to die anyway, so why would they keep her alive only to later kill her off in some other way? If she is actually not dead, it would be a senseless plot twist.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:22 am

It's because this show doesn't have the balls to kill a baby.

She's going to be alive but it'll be a few episodes if not the whole season before we even see her. All signs point towards her being taken out of *carrier? Not sure what it's called
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Post by M99 Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:49 am

In the comics, Daryl does not exist and Tyrese dies in the prison showdown too. Oh and Tyrese was introduced a lot earlier and is Rick's right hand man. Governor also cuts of Rick's hand and rapes Michonne. So yeah, show is a lot different and comic spoilers will hardly spoil anything at all. The comic is a lot darker and the show did not even have the balls to cut of Rick's hand so I doubt Judith is dead.
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Post by free_cat Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:03 pm

Yeah, and from what I've read the comics have a lot more sex, that wouldn't mind that to spice things up. In the show only Glenn and Maggie get some action, I'm sure a Zombie appocalypse wolrd would be a constant orgy, ffs.
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Post by Onyx Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:21 pm

Good episode, finally they've left the prison.

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Post by Onyx Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:24 pm

Also Judith is most likely alive. Don't the kids usually look after her? One of them probably took her. If not then someone new or maybe Carol somehow snuck in and got her.

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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:07 pm

Highly doubt Carol came back all the way from out, went ninja and took the baby when no one was looking.

There are two other theories i have

1) Lilly lost her daughter and she was in a shock. Perhaps she saw Judith alone when the kids went to get the weapons and thought that it was a replacement for her daughter and took her away. This way she won't be shown ( as I highly doubt Lilly would be relevant anymore or have any screen time and it would nearly as good as 'dead' for us )

2) Michonne disappeared after killing the Governor and left a half dead Rick alone. Maybe she went to get Judith since we saw 4-5 episodes back how she cried holding her.


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Post by Eman Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:23 pm

The only way I can see Judith still being alive is if Michonne took her, but I stand by it being a pointless plot twist if Judith isn't dead. It's not like a baby being alive is really a game-changer; it would just be like 'oh, okay, she's not dead I guess...'
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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:25 pm

Yea i hope she is dead since whenever they try to create their own plot, it usually backfires. Stick to the comics (apart from chopping rick's hand) and it will be fine.
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Post by Vibe Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:04 pm

What a high point for the show...

Rick was amazing.I finally felt the tragedy of it all again...The show was always about that for me.
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Post by Eman Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:46 am

Vibe wrote:What a high point for the show...

Rick was amazing.I finally felt the tragedy of it all again...The show was always about that for me.
Agreed. They've only been killing off minor characters for far too long. When every minute you feel like someone crucial can die, the show is at its best.
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Post by Motogp69 Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:03 am

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Post by FalcaoPunch Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:57 pm

I shat myself when that walker was near Darryl. And I'm like he's got to go, it can't be due to a walke sneaking up to him.


I want to know who was still up to something in the prison regarding that (looked like a rat) dissected on a piece of wood.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:03 pm

That psycho girl. She is the Ben of the tv show
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Post by Onyx Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:36 pm

Wouldn't Hershel go to the disabled toilet. hmm

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