Should Spurs call time on AVB?

Spent huge in the summer and they still deliver sub standard football, the guy failed at chelsea and his track record for spurs does not make for pretty reading.

Yes, he had success in portugal with Porto, but thats the equivalent of winning the SPL with Celtic.

So, the question remains? call it a day at the end of the season?

Bring back Adebayor  

He should find a way to include Lamela in the team ... it's not like he isn't good .

also Soldado is playing too much imo

Comparing AVB's undefeated Treble to SPL

Kamikaze692 wrote:Comparing AVB's undefeated Treble to SPL

Why not? The manager who succeeded him went undefeated in the league too. And let's face it.. even Avram Grant would've won Europa with that kind of squad.

how can ppl be calling Avb's head? he just needs 3 points to be 2nd or 3rd, common now....

It's only 11 games into the season and Tottenham are 7th, so the answer is obviously 'no'.

They've done okay result-wise.

Their football though is the most turgid and negative in the big boys.

Holtby is the most pointless player in the league...I can't believe he gets any minutes.

Their defense has been godly. So I'm gonna say no, it will be worth it to see if they can get the offense going

Natalie Portman wrote:They've done okay result-wise.

Their football though is the most turgid and negative in the big boys.

Holtby is the most pointless player in the league...I can't believe he gets any minutes.

Chelsea are worse.

They are above Manchester City, they have sold their best player and signed a lot (need time to gel). Off course they shouldn't fire AVB right now... '

A fluke season may come here & there but they will always revert to type whoever the manager is, in accordance with nature. They will never extend beyond Europa League status because they're a Europa League size club.  The only way medium-smaller clubs excel beyond their position in the modern era is with an injection of cash from a third party.

Of course not. Like they can get anyone better

Needs to improve his man-management skills.

wat a stupid thread team takes time to build he has a new starting eleven to last years. be patient.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Natalie Portman wrote:They've done okay result-wise.

Their football though is the most turgid and negative in the big boys.

Holtby is the most pointless player in the league...I can't believe he gets any minutes.

Chelsea are worse.

We score goals, how can we be worse?

Natalie Portman wrote:They've done okay result-wise.

Their football though is the most turgid and negative in the big boys.

Holtby is the most pointless player in the league...I can't believe he gets any minutes.

You obviously don't watch Spurs.

But seriously, I do think our issues have been poor tactics by AVB. I'm not really sure what he's trying to accomplish. I think he's stuck in our Bale formation and can't revert back to our natural 4/2/3/1 instead of the 4/2/3/1 with inverted wingers. He could even run the 4/3/3 he talked so much about going into the season now that both Sandro and Capoue are healthy.

I think the part that actually drives me nuts is that AVB used to be clutch at selecting the right subs to have the greatest impact on the game, but even that is going wrong these days.

However, despite all this he has earned the chance to get this team to gel. Knowing Levy though, if Spurs finish outside of the top 4 this season there is no way AVB should hold onto his job and I couldn't say I would disagree with the decision.

great reply's guys. keep it up!

Motogp69 wrote:I think the part that actually drives me nuts is that AVB used to be clutch at selecting the right subs to have the greatest impact on the game, but even that is going wrong these days.

He couldnt even do it at Chelsea mate

They created multiple chances today. Krul had the best game I have seen a GK have in the last 3 years! The problem is the buys. AVB needs a striker that can get involved in the build up or that is not as limited as Soldado.

They can't have it both ways. Teams are sitting back against them so Soldado can't really play against the last defender and has to drop deep and he is pretty average. Either Spurs have to shift the ball a lot faster to him or get a more rounded striker, but who is out there available for them? Option 1 is his only choice

jibers wrote:They created multiple chances today. Krul had the best game I have seen a GK have in the last 3 years! The problem is the buys. AVB needs a striker that can get involved in the build up or that is not as limited as Soldado.

They can't have it both ways. Teams are sitting back against them so Soldado can't really play against the last defender and has to drop deep and he is pretty average. Either Spurs have to shift the ball a lot faster to him or get a more rounded striker, but who is out there available for them? Option 1 is his only choice

I couldn't agree more, it's the reason why I thought Javier Hernandez was such a great potential transfer. In order for this team to work as we are currently playing, we need a world class fast break forward/central attacking midfielder.

Soldado is a box predator which would be perfectly fine if we played with natural width and fed the box with measured crosses. However, with the inverted wingers we are currently employing we are getting little to no service into the box which requires us to use a different type of forward. Unfortunately, the closest forward we have in terms of "style" is Defoe, but he is average at best, and provides little to no link up play.

Who is out there that fits what we need who is actually attainable in the January transfer window?

Whhhaaaaa?

Hernandez is a box predator too, he's just worse at it than Soldado.

Also over the course of this season, while Soldado is distinctly average with his overall play outside of the box...somehow he's been better than Defoe, and it hasn't been terrible. He's gotten better. Still doesn't provide near enough.

Naughton said they've been drilling hard on trying to get Soldado into good scoring positions in practice so at least AVB is trying to fix it. There are about a bajillion things that need fixing offensively though.

Either way, this team we see now won't be the team we see at the end of the season, I'm 100% sure. That's enough for me to believe things will evolve and correct themselves. Just need time. Spurs took a while to click last season, too.

Did Roman make this thread? I mean seriously, why would he get sacked now. He's like a few wins at most from the top. Southampton will likely not keep it up and City is struggling. Everton can't score either. So he isn't losing matches left and right, just getting draws. That's actually not bad, cause defense can keep you afloat while your team is gelling and that's exactly what his team is currently doing. Solid defense, and once the front attack gets it together he will have the rest of the season to keep on improving on what they already have

Give the guy some time, he has a bunch of players that never played with each other this season. Really would of liked to see Willian there to be honest. What a douche move by Mourinho lol

Hernandez for Mexico and United is a bit different. For Mexico he gets much more into the attack and pretty much the majority of his goals have come off the break. However, I agree completely that for United he is a box predator. I'm not saying he's my ideal forward for Spurs, but of those we were linked with over the Summer he's closer to what we need as an option compared to what's currently on the bench, and you know I was never wholeheartedly behind the Soldado signing.

Regardless, Soldado can be quite good for us with the proper tactics, but unfortunately AVB hasn't shown a propensity this season to toy with our formations as he did last season. I keep waiting for him to at least toy with a 4/4/2 or the 4/3/3 he started the season with, but alas I think that's were most of our frustrations come from in that he keeps playing with the XI instead.

Obviously, given our squad these formations are highly interchangeable:

------------Soldado --- Lamela-------------
Townsend --- Paulinho --- Sandro --- Lennon
Vertoghen----Kaboul----Chiriches----Walker

----Townsend-----Soldado------Lennon
------Dembele----Sandro-----Paulinho
Vertoghen----Kaboul----Chiriches----Walker

However, I still prefer the 4/2/3/1, just with the natural wingers as opposed to the inverted kind:

-----------------Soldado----------------
Townsend---------Eriksen---------Lamela
--------------Sandro---Paulinho----------
Vertoghen----Kaboul----Chiriches----Walker

Putting Lamela on the right wing has the added benefit that he seems to be our only RW who knows how to appropriately function with such an attack minded RB like Walker. Townsend then goes to the LW where he is free to get to the line or cut inside as Vertoghen is likely to fill in the space he opens up and still provide quality service from the deep positions.

CBarca wrote:Hernandez is a box predator too, he's just worse at it than Soldado.

CBarca wrote:  Whhhaaaaa?

Also, on Soccer Saturday, I remember them discussing Pendado's move to Spurs and showing a highlights package consisting of him pulling off volleys, bicycle kicks etc and other insane goals. I don't watch Spanish teams outside of Barca/Madrid, so I bought into the hype  

Anyways, as for AVB, ridiculous..mainly because I don't see them getting another manager of his calibre